C63 lovers
12.3 1/4 mile for IS-F
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[QUOTE=Jae Duk;3184477]
Do you know what issue that is? I don't know why MT doesn't show the mo/yr of the roadtests articles. (unless I'm missing it somewhere?)
But I also know that the IS-F is a nice balance between the three and will beat the new M3 in a straight line race all day long, and a C63 around the track.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
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I'd like to know if any of the IS-F lovers have spent any time with a C63. Because if you have, you have to know that the C63 just trounces it engine-wise. Forget numbers, forget 1/4 mile times... floor it in an IS-F, and you and your passenger smile at one another and say, "Niiice." Floor it in a C63, and look of fear comes over your passenger's face.
Ha! That's a lot of hyperbole and B.S. to say that I test drove the IS-F extensively before I bought my C63. There is no way in hell a C63 is just ~1/10th of a second faster in a quarter-mile. I need more data than just one website link. Beyond that, it seems to me that it is easy to do just a little modding on a C63 and turn it into a much faster car than the IS-F. Whereas the mod path with the IS-F is a little hazy at the moment.
Ha! That's a lot of hyperbole and B.S. to say that I test drove the IS-F extensively before I bought my C63. There is no way in hell a C63 is just ~1/10th of a second faster in a quarter-mile. I need more data than just one website link. Beyond that, it seems to me that it is easy to do just a little modding on a C63 and turn it into a much faster car than the IS-F. Whereas the mod path with the IS-F is a little hazy at the moment.
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lol, this thread is very entertaining
reasons i would pick m3/c63 over is-f
1.i cant accept those fugly is-f exhaust tips
2.8speed? for what?
3.unlike m/amg, there is no heritage of "F"
4.me no like its styling.
like someone said, i love it when i floor my C63, but i do not get the same driving experience from an is-f.
i love its interior btw. imo, it has the best interior among the 3 cars. i think its interior is more appealing to younger generation customers.(im not old, im 22)
reasons i would pick m3/c63 over is-f
1.i cant accept those fugly is-f exhaust tips
2.8speed? for what?
3.unlike m/amg, there is no heritage of "F"
4.me no like its styling.
like someone said, i love it when i floor my C63, but i do not get the same driving experience from an is-f.
i love its interior btw. imo, it has the best interior among the 3 cars. i think its interior is more appealing to younger generation customers.(im not old, im 22)
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Fact: Quickest time 1/4 mile on dragtimes for a stock C63 is 12.31
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Fact: Quickest time 1/4 mile on dragtimes for a stock IS-F is 12.38
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Fact: Quickest time 1/4 mile on dragtimes for a stock IS-F is 12.38
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
ok that 12.3 is from car&driver they are right do you homework before you post up.
why dont you post up the 12.2 from the c63 huh?
the other thing, i have 2 friend that have lexus is-f. and one is stock and i ran him at the track i ran a 12.452 and he ran a 12.805.
the other guy in the tuned lexus is-f ran a 12.4xx.
and no your lexus will not beat a m3 on track or straight line.
oh yea i ran a 12.452 on street tiresd not m/t like you.
here is the link for the 12.2+
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-16819.html
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I'd like to know if any of the IS-F lovers have spent any time with a C63. Because if you have, you have to know that the C63 just trounces it engine-wise. Forget numbers, forget 1/4 mile times... floor it in an IS-F, and you and your passenger smile at one another and say, "Niiice." Floor it in a C63, and look of fear comes over your passenger's face.
I test drove the IS-F before I bought the C63. While I do think the Lexus interior is nicer and more user friendly (esp the navi and Levinson sound system), the motor sure isn't up to par with AMG's 6.3. A properly driven C63 will ANNIHILATE a similarly driven IS-F in a strait line. And that's before the MHP reflash.
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I guess the above doesn't sit too well, huh? LOL! I didn't pay attention to that until Paul brought it up.
AMG and M for heritage and pedigree. The Japanese for innovation. Not a bad first time effort on Toyota's part to compete with the Germans. Can we agree to that?
AMG and M for heritage and pedigree. The Japanese for innovation. Not a bad first time effort on Toyota's part to compete with the Germans. Can we agree to that?
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I think both Mercedes and Lexus make great cars! But for people to think a Benz/AMG (or insert any other manufacture here) is far more superior than Lexus/TRD (or insert any other manufacture here)or vise versa is completely retarded! Its 2008 people!! Every car company has the ability and technology to build cars that's more superior than the next guy. the problem is the market for high end cars are just not there! So just because toyota or whoever build and sales cheaper cars does not mean they suck. all that just means they have a different market strategy and a different demographics of people they are targeting. As for the few tenths of a second difference between the two cars... who cares!? somebody could probably eat an extra donut in the morning and get beat by the other guy, and by the end of the day both get smoked by punka$$ kid in a tricked out ricer.. so its all about the build quality baby!..wait a few years and see how both cars are holding up.. that's what is important.... so for all the guys in here that thinks NIKE AIR makes you jump higher.. don't forget to stick your tongue out too!
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I think both Mercedes and Lexus make great cars! But for people to think a Benz/AMG (or insert any other manufacture here) is far more superior than Lexus/TRD (or insert any other manufacture here)or vise versa is completely retarded! Its 2008 people!! Every car company has the ability and technology to build cars that's more superior than the next guy. the problem is the market for high end cars are just not there! So just because toyota or whoever build and sales cheaper cars does not mean they suck. all that just means they have a different market strategy and a different demographics of people they are targeting. As for the few tenths of a second difference between the two cars... who cares!? somebody could probably eat an extra donut in the morning and get beat by the other guy, and by the end of the day both get smoked by punka$$ kid in a tricked out ricer.. so its all about the build quality baby!..wait a few years and see how both cars are holding up.. that's what is important.... so for all the guys in here that thinks NIKE AIR makes you jump higher.. don't forget to stick your tongue out too!
Then I guess I am retarded because I have no respect for Lexus "F". To me, "G.T.R." are the 3 magical letters that make me believe its a legendary Japanese performance automobile since 1969.
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yeah you are!
moderator throw this thread in the trash please!!
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Im a fan of Lexus, I had two of them, Lexus blew it on the IS-F IMO, as they did on the first gen IS. They had a chance to be a big time player in the Super sports sadan class with both the IS-F Offering 414chp when you know Mercedes is going to be 450 and BMW is going to be 420ish. So who does this car appeal to? AMG guys are dead set with Mercedes and most likely wont jump ship For a car that puts down less WHP then the modded C32 (or whatever) they just traded in. BMW guys may come over to Mercedes just for the sheer grunt of a C63. I just cant see M3 drives going to a slightly under powered Japanese car. The M3 might be slightly more precise on the road then a C63 or but were on the street are you going to be able to take it to its G-limit? IMO this is why the C63 makes so much sense. It can hang with these cars in the twisties, and kill'em in the straits.
Maybe on a Road&Track comparison test the IS-F maybe able to hang, but lets face it. When it comes to real world match ups on the street the IS-F will get pounded, In the end there is no replacement for displacement. Honk your horn 3 times and go. The Benz will pull on the IS-F and that = game over
Maybe on a Road&Track comparison test the IS-F maybe able to hang, but lets face it. When it comes to real world match ups on the street the IS-F will get pounded, In the end there is no replacement for displacement. Honk your horn 3 times and go. The Benz will pull on the IS-F and that = game over
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Im a fan of Lexus, I had two of them, Lexus blew it on the IS-F IMO, as they did on the first gen IS. They had a chance to be a big time player in the Super sports sadan class with both the IS-F Offering 414chp when you know Mercedes is going to be 450 and BMW is going to be 420ish. So who does this car appeal to? AMG guys are dead set with Mercedes and most likely wont jump ship For a car that puts down less WHP then the modded C32 (or whatever) they just traded in. BMW guys may come over to Mercedes just for the sheer grunt of a C63. I just cant see M3 drives going to a slightly under powered Japanese car. The M3 might be slightly more precise on the road then a C63 or but were on the street are you going to be able to take it to its G-limit? IMO this is why the C63 makes so much sense. It can hang with these cars in the twisties, and kill'em in the straits.
Maybe on a Road&Track comparison test the IS-F maybe able to hang, but lets face it. When it comes to real world match ups on the street the IS-F will get pounded, In the end there is no replacement for displacement. Honk your horn 3 times and go. The Benz will pull on the IS-F and that = game over
Maybe on a Road&Track comparison test the IS-F maybe able to hang, but lets face it. When it comes to real world match ups on the street the IS-F will get pounded, In the end there is no replacement for displacement. Honk your horn 3 times and go. The Benz will pull on the IS-F and that = game over
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Ive seen IS-F's at the track here in AZ and they could only put down 13.3's it was kinda hot though 85 degrees.
I bought it for 28K and its worth every penny. Most likely just like you I aways want more power. I like the IS-F, its rare, quick, new, it has Yamaha heads, It just needs a but more power IMO. When TRD has a supercharger for the IS-F thats covered under lexus/Toyota warranty that will be all she wrote, Power with peace of mind, you cant beat that.
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For sure man, Arizona is a tough place to run consistant times. I wonder how much gearing is coming into play with your times as well. Your trap speed seems on the low side. Are you having trouble hooking with all that new found power? Your car must pull like a freight train on the freeway though!
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
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The IS F is a nice car, however, just couldn't appreciate the body roll exhibited on the track, only 416hp, no performance package suspension offered, and the final straw, no exhaust "must have" sound track.
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sometimes its like ice off the line. I put some wheels on it that are a bit wider and heavier so thats not helping in the SLP area. Its a real kick in the pants to drive though. cars just seem to run slower out here in AZ my local track is at 1300ft and with the D/A factor it can get real bad. I wish i could get a chance to run at sea level on a cool night and see what I can really do. I dont believe in corrected numbers in 1/4 mile times but sometimes its the only way to see were you stack up with other cars that have better race conditions. You wont see anyone from AZ at the top of the leader board on dragtimes.com
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For sure man, Arizona is a tough place to run consistant times. I wonder how much gearing is coming into play with your times as well. Your trap speed seems on the low side. Are you having trouble hooking with all that new found power? Your car must pull like a freight train on the freeway though!
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
from what i read on magazine supposedly they'll be showing a 800hp is-f at sema this year
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I think that would appeal to a very different sort of buyer, the same kind who likes to boost his R34 to 900+ hp. By going that route, Lexus/TRD are only reminding us why their F models are nothing but cannon fodder for the German manufacturers of AMG/M/RS cars.
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For sure man, Arizona is a tough place to run consistant times. I wonder how much gearing is coming into play with your times as well. Your trap speed seems on the low side. Are you having trouble hooking with all that new found power? Your car must pull like a freight train on the freeway though!
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
Yeah, Greddy/Trust and TRD are rumored to be releasing a supercharger kit that puts out over 500 hp so should be interesting.....expensive no doubt, but interesting nonetheless.
0-60 magazine had an IS-F at SEMA that was blown by Greddy with a one off exhaust and supercharger that looked killer. Carbon fiber panels, hood, trunk, Tein edfc the hole nine.
You should see low 12's in Zona in winter for sure! Good luck
I like M3 & C63,I am not feeling the style of IS-F,but Lexus did a good job on this car,remember this is the first high end performance vehicle in their history to compare with M3 & AMG which already in the market for more than 20 years.They just so fast to climb up to this stage. Imagine 15 or 20 years later,they could be the car industry leader.
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Late to the party but this clown is of the same feather with the M3 boys who routinely came in and post slips and magazine comparos of M3 vs C32/C55.
Our resident lawyer Improviz put a lot of them to shape, and it's amazing how quiet it really has been.
Our resident lawyer Improviz put a lot of them to shape, and it's amazing how quiet it really has been.
