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Old 11-26-2008, 04:41 PM
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Paulgt3- doesnt the amg line of mercedes have the worst depreciation of all mercedes? Is it comparable to that of the caddy?
Amen........in fact, according to my post Mercedes Benz ranks 12th just behind GM in the JD Powers reliability rankings.

Maybe the AMG and the General Motors built CTS-V aren't that far apart after all
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Amen........in fact, according to my post Mercedes Benz ranks 12th just behind GM in the JD Powers reliability rankings.

Maybe the AMG and the General Motors built CTS-V aren't that far apart after all
You mad?
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The AMG does have bad depreciation for a super car but none really keep their value. The Caddy though is more horrific than a Jimmy carter presidency. Its horrific.
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Actually, the new CTS has a better resale value than the C-Class according to KBB. So much for stereotypes.
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Originally Posted by paulGT3
The AMG does have bad depreciation for a super car but none really keep their value. The Caddy though is more horrific than a Jimmy carter presidency. Its horrific.
I actually just did a comparison in value of my STS-V to a C55 with the same year, miles and location and equally equipped. It was like 45% depreciation on my car vs. 38% depreciation on the C55
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Actually, the new CTS has a better resale value than the C-Class according to KBB. So much for stereotypes.
How can we know that??? The car is not even out yet. You using previous models?
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CTS and C-Class both came out in 2008 with new body.
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Originally Posted by YellowJacket
CTS and C-Class both came out in 2008 with new body.
Only thing though...im sure its tough to go by that. Due to the fact that im sure the V line depreciates differently than the base line. Just like the AMG lines do compared to that of a base C-class.
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or just buy the SL63 if thats what you want. Thats all the c63 is, a C class with the SL63 motor in it..
I don't agree with you sorry, the SL63 is C63 in a different body
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Originally Posted by 8speeed
Why, I am not breaking any forum rules. I have every right to be in here. Is this what you guys do to outsiders......insult them constantly and when they still show up and you can't come up with anymore original material like "fake exhaust tips", "toyota corolla" ....your only recourse is to recommend that someone ban me?

Quiters!
Actually you are. You seem to go from post to post and instigate, bait, insult - all actions in an attempt to rile members to a flame fest.

That is not welcome here.

It is not acceptable that others are responding the way they are either, but YOU are the instigator my friend. You will be welcome here if you can play nice, but frankly I am tired of you creating chaos and then you have the nerve to report posts of others.

Play nice, or you will not be welcome here much longer.

And if you don't know me or trust what I am saying, ask around. I am one of the site founders and considered to be "the disciplinarian" around here.

Your choice.

To the others - PLEASE also play nice or simply ignore this trouble maker.

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Thanks Brad. I just dont like when people come in and instigate
it brings down all of our behaviour. But even worse the ones who dont get drawn in to the hate, leave. Thats the worst part. When you have a troll like 8 speed you either respond or leave. Our forum has just become alittle bit nicer.
You would like to think our members would stay above the fray but some people dont like to be insulted and its hard not to protect your turf. Especially when they just come in and start right off
My car turned a (some mythical time) you guys are toads first thread. That really shows a persons intent instead of coming in introducing ones self then starting an adult conversation. This whole thing was juvenile from the beginning. I have a hard time faulting our members, but I see what youre saying.
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8speed, let me guess, you're the first person in your family to afford a Lexus?
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SOrry Yellow jacket KBB blue book doesnt apply here. Too small of a sample size. Thats why you cant find any decent 911 prices there either.
There is only the knowledge of the market THAT day and one or two peridicals like Carsthatmatter.com. Even if the periodical is dedicated to the marque the market prices doent reflect what the real market is.
The AMG C63 is too small of a sample size and too new to be judged on the depreciation. On Cadillacs and other common cars like Corvettes yea you can get an idea from kellys blue book or Edmunds.
But here is an example, Excellence the magazine about Porsche and for Porsche has buyers guides in it every month. They are even close to being the value of what say a 911 GT3 is. I sold my 07 for $115k 12 weeks ago. Excellence had the car in excellent condition in the 90K range. Thats a 20% mistake. You can NEVER NEVER rely on Kelly's
for values on these kinds of cars that being AMG or Porsches.
Yea on Cadillacs or corvettes where they make tens of thousands of them every year Kellys or Edmunds can track an semi accurate value.
But AMG makes less than 18,000 Motors a year including all the motors it makes for other companies like Zonda.
If you use KBB you are looking to give your dealer more than ten thousand dollars through your lack of market knowledge.
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why are you guys comparing depreciation value??? thats awkward in the first place.

lets just ignore 8speed, he probably drives a corolla in real life but he pretends to have an is-f on the internet.
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
Actually you are. You seem to go from post to post and instigate, bait, insult - all actions in an attempt to rile members to a flame fest.

That is not welcome here.

It is not acceptable that others are responding the way they are either, but YOU are the instigator my friend. You will be welcome here if you can play nice, but frankly I am tired of you creating chaos and then you have the nerve to report posts of others.

Play nice, or you will not be welcome here much longer.

And if you don't know me or trust what I am saying, ask around. I am one of the site founders and considered to be "the disciplinarian" around here.

Your choice.

To the others - PLEASE also play nice or simply ignore this trouble maker.

thank
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Norb No I am Old guy on Rennlist!
I grew up in Garland
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I dont think that is too far from one of my sponsors for my drag car. They are in Mckinney. Heard of Forced Performance?
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Originally Posted by 8speeed
Why, I am not breaking any forum rules. I have every right to be in here. Is this what you guys do to outsiders......insult them constantly and when they still show up and you can't come up with anymore original material like "fake exhaust tips", "toyota corolla" ....your only recourse is to recommend that someone ban me?

Quiters!
ok i m not a hater and i hate when people mess with somebodys car but these guy really needs to shut the **** up and what i m trying to say is.... somebody that lives close go **** his car up cuz he deserves it more than anybody ever did.
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Okix

I havent lived in Garland for 30 years My mom just called from there
but I havent heard of that drag company. Just because I havent lived there for awhile I saw a episode of Pinks with a guy from Sachse.
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Originally Posted by paulGT3
Okix

I havent lived in Garland for 30 years My mom just called from there
but I havent heard of that drag company. Just because I havent lived there for awhile I saw a episode of Pinks with a guy from Sachse.
I see. Forced Performance is a turbo company who also makes turbos, cams and other engine products. We are currently the world record holder for the stock housing turbo on The Evo. We ran a 9.57@143. Since then we have changed turbos and ran a 9.2@157. Needless to say they make some awesome products.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/B...wFP_191782.htm

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