KingdomCome

I just realized something, most people are comparing the C63(a naturally aspirated engine) with supercharged or turboed cars. I personally think that after some ECU upgrades and force induction included, the C63 would probably beat cars like the Cadillac CTS-V and the like easily.

Who's with me?

paulGT3

This has been brought up many times. The AMG 6.2 liter motor is a very special normally aspirated engine. There are motors that should be turbo'd and those that should not. This AMG motor has 100 Hp left in it with tuning and exhaust, with LOTS of reliability. Its like the Porsche Twin turbo motor vs the Porsche GT3 motor. Nothing sounds like a GT3 at 8400 screaming down the front straight at a race track.
This AMG 6.2 liter motor is one that is one of the greatest normally aspirated motors on the planet. The whole motor would have to be changed- the compression ratio, ECU etc etc. Just tune it for the 500+ HP thats in it. Force induction would reduce the reliability of the motor and change the whole complexion of the motor. If you want the force induction buy the 6.5 liter motor in another model.
AMG detuned this 6.2 liter so it wouldnt be faster than its more expensive siblings (they failed) and when you look at what you get for your 65k USD its an outstanding motor for the money. The only thing that needs to be done is the ECU and a more breathable exhaust. AMG had to make a less productive exhaust because of the lack of space and expense to get it into this price range. So a X pipe headers and the ECU and TCU will make this flatten the cadillac. Not to mention the AMG will be a better car after 2 years of wear(its already better) not to mention the questionable style of the Caddy. The AMG pretty much beats all comers right now and there is no reason to spoil this motor with forced induction. It would be like turbocharging a Ferrari Scuderia.

Look at it this way. The AMG C63 is the entry level AMG and its kicking the primo highest end models of other makers as is.

KingdomCome

Using forced induction reduces the reliability of ANY engine, not just this one.

paulGT3

Well not necessarily. IF you design the motor to be turbo charge you can get a motor thats turbo'd and has lots of life left in them. Diesel Turbos for instance on these biG Ford F350s are turbo diesel and they go for hundreds of thousands of miles with no problems but they were designed to be turbo diesels from the ground up.

Sincity

Just do what Jrcart over at the BS forum did and stick a 75-Shot NOS along with every known bolt-on for the 6.2l. I think he is now experimenting with a 100-shot.

Derspeed

PaulGT3 is correct. You can't just slap a turbo or supercharger on an engine like the 6.2.

AMGC60-3

I read an artical last year somewhere that the 63 powerplant can easily achieve up to 600 hp without over stressing (unstressed). They have left a tremendous amount of room to improve or raise the bar in the future. There is a long way to go before the C63 is "maxed" out.I am hoping that the 2010 or 2011 "facelift" will be a true wonder.

MHP

The bottom line with the 6.2 is that it comes with 11.3:1 static compression. Not at all FI friendly unless at the very least you swap to lower comp pistons (meaning remove the motor, disassemble the bottom end, hone the block, rebalance the rotating assembly, reassemble the bottom end and reinstall the motor).
If you do that then you'll be fine, if you can find a blower that fits.
Honestly at some point someone like Heffner or Stage 6 will build a turbo kit for a 63, it's only a matter of time. Making over 1000rwhp SAE will be childs play with a 6.2 on 93 octane.
Until then, yes, IMO we can make 580-600rw SAE with H/C and all the bolt-ons with a stock bottom end. That's pretty much all the power you'll be able to put to the ground under 100mph in a C anyway.

MHP

Correct, these motors are quite nitrous friendly (nitrous loves anything a good N/A motor does) and can take a 200 shot all day long--as long as the fueling requirements are met.

Heath T

What is the BS forum?

Any info on this kit?

CarHopper

Stage 3 weistec blower. And then double that cost. Then add some more. And don't forget a few extra nickels and dimes here and there. You're good to go

Sincity

BS=Black Series

4ramin

I would love to see this motor with turbos, however the amount of work to do this right would be ver intense

blackbenzz

The hardware is not the issue. The tuning is

4ramin

tuning, along with the ability of the trans to shift in a timely manner, heating issues , room for the turbos, intercooler, rods, piston , injectors and much much more... It can be done with the right amount of funds, infact i would much rather have this option then a supercharger. At the end of the day its just a c-class body with traction issues, at one point do you stop and move on to the next big thing thing? personally would much rather have a GTR if i was going down that road. People need to enjoy the car for what it is, bolt on options are just fine but a line must be drawn.