MHP

Our v2 ECU/TCU Tuning plus drop in filters makes 530hp+ (436/402rw SAE 1:1) with 17.5% DT loss.

Dads C63

FYI
The headers are not all you get for the additional $10,000. The stage II tune is much more potent than the stage I tune. They just enhance the tune.

MHP

2800lbs/390rwhp= 7.18lbs/rwhp that's pretty sporty. I'm guessing you have a TT V8.

jrcarts Black Series has some weight reduction but should still be in the 3650lb range. His car makes around 530rw N/A on 100 octane (he uses 120 octane NOS race fuel as a precaution when spraying).

3650lbs/530rwhp=6.89lbs/rwhp N/A

I think he'd walk you pretty hard on spray.

ShanSL350

Keith you must be very happy with the Car and the tune
I take it you dyno'd it after fitting the Shorty Headers and Down Pipes, how much better did the car feel with the 30rwhp increase?

jrcart

What do you have in mind? Do you want to do this on the street or track? BTW, what the hell do you have done to your Esprit that can let it hang with a BS? Esprits are like 13.5 second cars. I assume you did a turbo upgrade, but everybody knows those motors grenade with even just a little too much boost so I guess I'm a little confused.

tedypedy

13.5 seconds? maybe the 4cyl. I have a final edition V8 which were said to be putting down 350whp stock, instead of the 350 claimed at the crank, which I am above. I just dynoed it at 390whp with gutted cats and K&N drop ins, everything else is stock down to the pump gas she runs on. I'm sure when I decide which route to go for modding there is much more power to be had. People grenade the engines cause they increase the boost and just buy the red race ecu and hope that it runs as it should, tuning is obviously a delicate practice otherwise you guys wouldn't be paying 5k for it....right? maybe I'm wrong lol The other problem is there is a tiny weak radiator and no intercooler and the cast pistons will melt under significant increases in boost. Keeping temps down would allow for more play, but for some reason that's a hard concept to grasp for ppl. First thing I'm doing is upgrading the radiator and running water/meth 'til I can find someone to make a reliable intercooler for me.

I prefer a classic roll street race, can be done whenever on a whim and doesnt need months of planning. Prefer a roll to a dig cause the abuse is unwarranted, I have one of 33 final edition Esprit's so finding a new axle or renault tranny isn't as easy for me as it is for you guys. Obviously there is no point in spraying and using rocket fuel to race a lowly stock british car

But I do have a video beating my friends modded cobra:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jr8EyQyaF4



and this is just a sound clip from my phone, the bark is meaner than the bite I assure you lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8p7v52sTuQ


BTW I didn't hang with a black series, I beat it

jrcart

Sorry, but no way your bone stock Lotus is going to beat a bone stock Black Series let alone my car. You might have gotten lucky if you caught one off gaurd and he smoked his tires but these two cars are in a different leauge.

I think you better get your facts straight, I just googled you car and came up with the following info. The 2004 (final year of production) 3.5 liter V8 Esprit 0-60 4.7 seconds, 1/4 mile 12.98 @ 109 mph top speed 175 mph and BTW it only make 350 @ the crank, whp is is probably closer to 315.


I'm not trying to knowck your car, I have always loved the lines of a Lotus, but you really can not compare the two vehicles.

MHP

What's done to the Terminator? I hear a stock blower (no twin screw or TVS) so it can't be putting out more than ~500rw w/out spray, 520rw if ported by Steggy. They also check in around 3650lbs w/out driver.

tedypedy

you are much more knowledgable than your friend. That cobra had 440whp 460wtq, stock blower but not "stock" in any meaning of the word.

JRCart, I just said in my previous post I dynoed 390 to the wheels 2 days ago and you are going to google search argue with me? I can google too, it says the Black does a mid to high 12 in the 1/4, now what? I think you should be getting YOUR facts straight.
I thought this paper racing stuff was in the past, people haven't grown out of it yet? I'll post my dyno when VF Engineering sends it to me, or you can call them and ask them.

Here's the thread about my race, it wasn't an off gaurd race, and it was several times with me being the victor AND I had a passenger when he had none. And you are right there's no point in comparing a real sports car against your Benz dressed up like one

I'm jk I love the black series, but seriously we can do some friendly runs and you can tell me out of your own mouth how fast my car is or isnt.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297

iku

is this you?? if it is, then man, ur car is freaking fast :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuxEDjTsD8c

Shooff

Interesting, my cobra with around 460 rwhp (Tune, Xpipe,Catback,2.93 Pulley) which I assume is similar mods to your friend there went a best of 11.9 @ 117 , and similar drivers have gone quicker with those mods 11.6 or 11.7s

Guessing by that and the posted time of your car stock 12.98@109 , this *could be a close race off the line with street tires on the cobra.

BUT if this was from a roll of any sort the Cobra should pull on you nicely, unless you are not 350 hp crank which you have stated :P

But roughly you saying 70 rwhp above stock numbers, I'd guess you should be a low 12s high 11s running around 117ish traps, so I can believe it being close. But still 390 rwhp doesnt sound stock.

tedypedy

The Esprit in this video was putting down stock power (for a final edition) 350whp, my friend is good friends with him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzyxmXhbIpI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-mU...eature=related


That Z06 was a TT with 600+rwhp.

The Esprit in the video now makes 401rwhp with water meth. (not mine)

COR Forged

So for $90K you can run about what a tuned/stock 2001/2002 Camaro SS runs.
Wow....that is truly awesome !!

jerry@corwheels.com

blownS

tedypedy

Did I miss something? What costs $90k?

FishtailnZ

I don't understand why the attitude from some...but anyway, whatever is or isn't doen to your Esprit, it's obviously a good runner. And unique, props!

COR Forged

C63 with tune and associated parts installed.

jerry@corwheels.com

tedypedy

Thank you, wish more posts were like this

MHP

Yes, but thankfully we have a "mullet delete" option.

Let's not start down this road. As anyone worth their salt can pick up a $3500 Fox body 5.0 invest $5k and walk pretty much any car on the road in a straight line.

MHP

Also FYI there isn't a stock/tuned LS1 F-body on earth running 11.6@119.7+, maybe on a 150 shot, but not otherwise stock.

EURO KNG

At the end of the day its still a ls1 lol

BerBer63

Poor me

::::looking at my 01 SS outside::::

MHP

No offense to the chevy/LSX owners, they are great motors--they just don't run mid 11s@120 with a tune only in a F-body. Further, I am biased, having owned a 550rw N/A 5.4/4v (Ford GT block/head/custom intake) 98 Cobra.

jrcart

Actually I am going to believe the google search, at least for the HP numbers I just went back and checked 6 different online sources for the specs of a 2004 Esprit (final edition), the quickest 0-60 I could find was 4.45 seconds and the worst was 4.7 seconds, they all claim 350 HP at the crank. Nowhere did I find any evidence of 350whp Esprits....but if you say yours is making 390 I guess it's 390, if that is the case then your car should be able to hang with mine or at least close, care to put your money where your mouth is and back up your claims? Let me know I will be in LA on Jan 13-18th, I would be more than happy to show you my tail lights...don't mod that puppy too much, I hear (google again) the transmissions are garbage.

tedypedy

how much are we talking about? I bet if I was using 120 octane and spray I'd be beating you, but unfortunately that's a big hassle just to prove a point. Terms and conditions of this bout? Not like you need any more advantages to beat me seeing as how a stock Esprit only has 350 crank right? so I assume regular pump fuel is fine with you?