MKB Package takes my C63 to 11.634 @ 119.77mph!!
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Our v2 ECU/TCU Tuning plus drop in filters makes 530hp+ (436/402rw SAE 1:1) with 17.5% DT loss.
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The headers are not all you get for the additional $10,000. The stage II tune is much more potent than the stage I tune. They just enhance the tune.
The headers are not all you get for the additional $10,000. The stage II tune is much more potent than the stage I tune. They just enhance the tune.
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sounds like a date, I only have 390whp in my Lotus but it weighs 2800lbs so I've been spanking some high hp vehicles cause I'm like 1200lbs lighter than an E60 M5 or 211 AMG. Someone told me that every 100lbs off is like 10whp so if that's the case then I guess it should be a good race? 500+rwhp sounds insane, but what the hell is up with needing 120 octane? At that point you might as well run enriched plutonium for your flux capacitor to send you back in time.
jrcarts Black Series has some weight reduction but should still be in the 3650lb range. His car makes around 530rw N/A on 100 octane (he uses 120 octane NOS race fuel as a precaution when spraying).
3650lbs/530rwhp=6.89lbs/rwhp N/A
I think he'd walk you pretty hard on spray.
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Andy,
I think we would run side by side most of the time. Would be a great race!! Hope we can race together some time.
I know the MKB package was salty but the power is there and it works. No check engine lights.
The exhaust is stock except for the shorty headers and down pipes. Go to their web site and it will give you a picture of the headers.
I installed the headers and with just the headers and down pipes running the stock ECU I gained over 30rwhp.
I did remove the secondary cats for the Bradenton races but its too loud and I am putting them back on. Let me know if you have more questions. Stay safe!
I think we would run side by side most of the time. Would be a great race!! Hope we can race together some time.
I know the MKB package was salty but the power is there and it works. No check engine lights.
The exhaust is stock except for the shorty headers and down pipes. Go to their web site and it will give you a picture of the headers.
I installed the headers and with just the headers and down pipes running the stock ECU I gained over 30rwhp.
I did remove the secondary cats for the Bradenton races but its too loud and I am putting them back on. Let me know if you have more questions. Stay safe!
I take it you dyno'd it after fitting the Shorty Headers and Down Pipes, how much better did the car feel with the 30rwhp increase?
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What do you have in mind? Do you want to do this on the street or track? BTW, what the hell do you have done to your Esprit that can let it hang with a BS? Esprits are like 13.5 second cars. I assume you did a turbo upgrade, but everybody knows those motors grenade with even just a little too much boost so I guess I'm a little confused.
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What do you have in mind? Do you want to do this on the street or track? BTW, what the hell do you have done to your Esprit that can let it hang with a BS? Esprits are like 13.5 second cars. I assume you did a turbo upgrade, but everybody knows those motors grenade with even just a little too much boost so I guess I'm a little confused.
I prefer a classic roll street race, can be done whenever on a whim and doesnt need months of planning. Prefer a roll to a dig cause the abuse is unwarranted, I have one of 33 final edition Esprit's so finding a new axle or renault tranny isn't as easy for me as it is for you guys. Obviously there is no point in spraying and using rocket fuel to race a lowly stock british car
But I do have a video beating my friends modded cobra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jr8EyQyaF4
and this is just a sound clip from my phone, the bark is meaner than the bite I assure you lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8p7v52sTuQ
BTW I didn't hang with a black series, I beat it
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13.5 seconds? maybe the 4cyl. I have a final edition V8 which were said to be putting down 350whp stock, instead of the 350 claimed at the crank, which I am above. I just dynoed it at 390whp with gutted cats and K&N drop ins, everything else is stock down to the pump gas she runs on. I'm sure when I decide which route to go for modding there is much more power to be had. People grenade the engines cause they increase the boost and just buy the red race ecu and hope that it runs as it should, tuning is obviously a delicate practice otherwise you guys wouldn't be paying 5k for it....right? maybe I'm wrong lol The other problem is there is a tiny weak radiator and no intercooler and the cast pistons will melt under significant increases in boost. Keeping temps down would allow for more play, but for some reason that's a hard concept to grasp for ppl. First thing I'm doing is upgrading the radiator and running water/meth 'til I can find someone to make a reliable intercooler for me.
I prefer a classic roll street race, can be done whenever on a whim and doesnt need months of planning. Prefer a roll to a dig cause the abuse is unwarranted, I have one of 33 final edition Esprit's so finding a new axle or renault tranny isn't as easy for me as it is for you guys. Obviously there is no point in spraying and using rocket fuel to race a lowly stock british car
But I do have a video beating my friends modded cobra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jr8EyQyaF4
and this is just a sound clip from my phone, the bark is meaner than the bite I assure you lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8p7v52sTuQ
BTW I didn't hang with a black series, I beat it
I prefer a classic roll street race, can be done whenever on a whim and doesnt need months of planning. Prefer a roll to a dig cause the abuse is unwarranted, I have one of 33 final edition Esprit's so finding a new axle or renault tranny isn't as easy for me as it is for you guys. Obviously there is no point in spraying and using rocket fuel to race a lowly stock british car
But I do have a video beating my friends modded cobra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jr8EyQyaF4
and this is just a sound clip from my phone, the bark is meaner than the bite I assure you lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8p7v52sTuQ
BTW I didn't hang with a black series, I beat it
I think you better get your facts straight, I just googled you car and came up with the following info. The 2004 (final year of production) 3.5 liter V8 Esprit 0-60 4.7 seconds, 1/4 mile 12.98 @ 109 mph top speed 175 mph and BTW it only make 350 @ the crank, whp is is probably closer to 315.
I'm not trying to knowck your car, I have always loved the lines of a Lotus, but you really can not compare the two vehicles.
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But I do have a video beating my friends modded cobra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jr8EyQyaF4
and this is just a sound clip from my phone, the bark is meaner than the bite I assure you lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8p7v52sTuQ
BTW I didn't hang with a black series, I beat it
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you are much more knowledgable than your friend. That cobra had 440whp 460wtq, stock blower but not "stock" in any meaning of the word.
JRCart, I just said in my previous post I dynoed 390 to the wheels 2 days ago and you are going to google search argue with me? I can google too, it says the Black does a mid to high 12 in the 1/4, now what? I think you should be getting YOUR facts straight.
I thought this paper racing stuff was in the past, people haven't grown out of it yet? I'll post my dyno when VF Engineering sends it to me, or you can call them and ask them.
Here's the thread about my race, it wasn't an off gaurd race, and it was several times with me being the victor AND I had a passenger when he had none. And you are right there's no point in comparing a real sports car against your Benz dressed up like one
I'm jk I love the black series, but seriously we can do some friendly runs and you can tell me out of your own mouth how fast my car is or isnt.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297
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is this you?? if it is, then man, ur car is freaking fast :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuxEDjTsD8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuxEDjTsD8c
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you are much more knowledgable than your friend. That cobra had 440whp 460wtq, stock blower but not "stock" in any meaning of the word.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297
Guessing by that and the posted time of your car stock 12.98@109 , this *could be a close race off the line with street tires on the cobra.
BUT if this was from a roll of any sort the Cobra should pull on you nicely, unless you are not 350 hp crank which you have stated :P
But roughly you saying 70 rwhp above stock numbers, I'd guess you should be a low 12s high 11s running around 117ish traps, so I can believe it being close. But still 390 rwhp doesnt sound stock.
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The Esprit in this video was putting down stock power (for a final edition) 350whp, my friend is good friends with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzyxmXhbIpI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-mU...eature=related
That Z06 was a TT with 600+rwhp.
The Esprit in the video now makes 401rwhp with water meth. (not mine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzyxmXhbIpI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-mU...eature=related
That Z06 was a TT with 600+rwhp.
The Esprit in the video now makes 401rwhp with water meth. (not mine)
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So for $90K you can run about what a tuned/stock 2001/2002 Camaro SS runs.
Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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So for $90K you can run about what a tuned/stock 2001/2002 Camaro SS runs.
Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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Did I miss something? What costs $90k?
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Let's not start down this road. As anyone worth their salt can pick up a $3500 Fox body 5.0 invest $5k and walk pretty much any car on the road in a straight line.
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So for $90K you can run about what a tuned/stock 2001/2002 Camaro SS runs.
Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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Wow....that is truly awesome !!
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No offense to the chevy/LSX owners, they are great motors--they just don't run mid 11s@120 with a tune only in a F-body. Further, I am biased, having owned a 550rw N/A 5.4/4v (Ford GT block/head/custom intake) 98 Cobra. 
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you are much more knowledgable than your friend. That cobra had 440whp 460wtq, stock blower but not "stock" in any meaning of the word.
JRCart, I just said in my previous post I dynoed 390 to the wheels 2 days ago and you are going to google search argue with me? I can google too, it says the Black does a mid to high 12 in the 1/4, now what? I think you should be getting YOUR facts straight.
I thought this paper racing stuff was in the past, people haven't grown out of it yet? I'll post my dyno when VF Engineering sends it to me, or you can call them and ask them.
Here's the thread about my race, it wasn't an off gaurd race, and it was several times with me being the victor AND I had a passenger when he had none. And you are right there's no point in comparing a real sports car against your Benz dressed up like one
I'm jk I love the black series, but seriously we can do some friendly runs and you can tell me out of your own mouth how fast my car is or isnt.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297
JRCart, I just said in my previous post I dynoed 390 to the wheels 2 days ago and you are going to google search argue with me? I can google too, it says the Black does a mid to high 12 in the 1/4, now what? I think you should be getting YOUR facts straight.
I thought this paper racing stuff was in the past, people haven't grown out of it yet? I'll post my dyno when VF Engineering sends it to me, or you can call them and ask them.
Here's the thread about my race, it wasn't an off gaurd race, and it was several times with me being the victor AND I had a passenger when he had none. And you are right there's no point in comparing a real sports car against your Benz dressed up like one
I'm jk I love the black series, but seriously we can do some friendly runs and you can tell me out of your own mouth how fast my car is or isnt.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1138297
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Actually I am going to believe the google search, at least for the HP numbers I just went back and checked 6 different online sources for the specs of a 2004 Esprit (final edition), the quickest 0-60 I could find was 4.45 seconds and the worst was 4.7 seconds, they all claim 350 HP at the crank. Nowhere did I find any evidence of 350whp Esprits....but if you say yours is making 390 I guess it's 390, if that is the case then your car should be able to hang with mine or at least close, care to put your money where your mouth is and back up your claims? Let me know I will be in LA on Jan 13-18th, I would be more than happy to show you my tail lights...don't mod that puppy too much, I hear (google again) the transmissions are garbage.
how much are we talking about? I bet if I was using 120 octane and spray I'd be beating you, but unfortunately that's a big hassle just to prove a point. Terms and conditions of this bout? Not like you need any more advantages to beat me seeing as how a stock Esprit only has 350 crank right? so I assume regular pump fuel is fine with you?
