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Old 01-22-2009, 11:29 PM
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Awesome...out of curiosity, any dealerships in the Seattle Washington area? Barrier Motors comes to mind Not that warranty concerns would stop me anyway!
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:56 PM
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Awesome...out of curiosity, any dealerships in the Seattle Washington area? Barrier Motors comes to mind Not that warranty concerns would stop me anyway!
MB/AMG wise OH and FL at this time. I can get you discounted transport as well.

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Welcome back Andy!!! Now lets see some prices, dyno results and MIR timeslips for all these goodies so we can start drooling.

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Thanks Mike, nice to see you again as well. We're less than 5 weeks from MIR, and I can't wait! Going to fly up and make a few passes in the C63/M5?

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Welcome back! I look forward to some new and exciting news from MHP! And your uplifting commentaries on what our C63's can and will achieve!
Thanks Dan! Hopefully Keith/MarFas can still make it up from FL. Head to head with the 2 quickest/fastest C63s in the world. That would be awesome!
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Thanks Mike, nice to see you again as well. We're less than 5 weeks from MIR, and I can't wait! Going to fly up and make a few passes in the C63/M5?
If I can time one of my business trips to the Northeast to coincide with the MIR event I might just do that!

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Old 01-24-2009, 10:17 PM
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I know they did a C63 and stock it put down 333whp stock On their dyno and when they were done it put down 425whp. Those numbers are based on their Dyno Dynamics dyno. 92whp gain.. thats huge.
I dont want to sound negative, but I have been flashing these ME9 management systems in the AMG series now for well over a year, and know them pretty well inside and out. What I can tell you is that there is not under any circumstances 92rwhp in a tune only from these cars when dynoed correctly. Lets see the dyno graphs and get some straight read world figures out there. I have my own (figures), but am not a sponsor, so let someone else start

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I am doing my best to make arrangements to run with you. I don't know what I'll have time or funds to get completed before then. Either way, I want to run up there with you at a good track. Good luck racing!! I thought I remembered you mentioning you could bring the stall up electronically?

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Originally Posted by Martin in Australia
I dont want to sound negative, but I have been flashing these ME9 management systems in the AMG series now for well over a year, and know them pretty well inside and out. What I can tell you is that there is not under any circumstances 92rwhp in a tune only from these cars when dynoed correctly. Lets see the dyno graphs and get some straight read world figures out there. I have my own (figures), but am not a sponsor, so let someone else start
Martin,
Are you affiliated with Powechip? I know they're an Australian company maybe you can provide info on why the ECU will trigger the Esp and go into limp mode when road racing. Seems that the aggressive throttle isn't compatable with the ESP.
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Martin,
Are you affiliated with Powechip? I know they're an Australian company maybe you can provide info on why the ECU will trigger the Esp and go into limp mode when road racing. Seems that the aggressive throttle isn't compatable with the ESP.
Jimmy
Definitely not affiliated with Powerchip, of that I can certainly assure you
On that note I havent seen any of the Powerchip programming, but normally these sorts of faults come about by the traction system not being able to reduce system torque enough to line up with commanded traction due to the torque management being 'switched off' in the data segment
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Andy,
I am doing my best to make arrangements to run with you. I don't know what I'll have time or funds to get completed before then. Either way, I want to run up there with you at a good track. Good luck racing!! I thought I remembered you mentioning you could bring the stall up electronically?

God Bless,
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Keith,
It would be great if you could make it up bud. It's Sunday March 1st and I'm looking forward to meeting you and some great runs!
We raise stall rpm but only by 150-200rpm, the rest we have to do mechanically.

Take care,
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Originally Posted by Martin in Australia
Definitely not affiliated with Powerchip, of that I can certainly assure you
On that note I havent seen any of the Powerchip programming, but normally these sorts of faults come about by the traction system not being able to reduce system torque enough to line up with commanded traction due to the torque management being 'switched off' in the data segment
Stock cars are having the issue so that pretty much eliminates reduced/eliminated tq management being the cause.
With regard to C63s the difference in rear tire height when running DRs (both Nittos and MTs are taller than the OEM P Zeros) often triggers an ESP related limp mode--due to the ABS sensors picking up on the difference between rotations/speed of the front and rear wheels. mthis has had success not triggering the ESP related limp mode by running 245/40/18 front tires with his MT DRs.

Jim,
It's ESP related, probably tied into the yaw sensors. It's definitely not in the ECU/TCU.
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Originally Posted by MHP
It's ESP related, probably tied into the yaw sensors. It's definitely not in the ECU/TCU.
That explains it, we dont have anyone here that we know of thats attempted to 1/4 mile the C63 on anything but the stock rubber
Hence the problem doesnt exist in Australia!......yet
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That explains it, we dont have anyone here that we know of thats attempted to 1/4 mile the C63 on anything but the stock rubber
Hence the problem doesnt exist in Australia!......yet
Don't waste your time, go with 265/40/18 MT DRs. By far the best DR on the market, they even kickass in the snow. Only complaint is that they walk slightly up top, Nittos don't, but then again they don't bite nearly as well either.
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Yep correct, we use MT radials fairly well exclusively on the cars we run over here, just the C63 guys are a bit slow to pick up on it
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Torque converter from the trans. But not sure why.


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Torque converter from the trans. But not sure why.


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My guess is modified for a higher stall...
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Originally Posted by MHP

Jim,
It's ESP related, probably tied into the yaw sensors. It's definitely not in the ECU/TCU.
I'm running with ESP off on road course, JrCart running your program and me running PC trigger the same fault codes in both cars. Doesn't occur in stock tune! Any clues?
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Originally Posted by Jim Brady
I'm running with ESP off on road course, JrCart running your program and me running PC trigger the same fault codes in both cars. Doesn't occur in stock tune! Any clues?
Jim,

Jim/jrcart told me it happened to stock tune/tire equipped vehicles at Willow as well. Running a Nitto or MT DR on the street with stock size front wheels/tires triggers ESP limp mode as well. Also the ESP is never truly off (we have ESP off as well) except in dyno mode (no power steering either).

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