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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Stock E55 vs MHP C63 (mthis)

I bumped into this guy with the MHP tuned c63 and I have a stock E55 and just installed my Cm30 pump yesterday. We did 2 runs from 0 and with my shi**y tires I couldn't get the car to launch but anyway both times lost by about 1 car and half. We also did 2 rolling starts and both times I got in front and he wasn't able to pass me both rolling races, about 1 car. We definetly hit speeds above 100mph but not on the runs from the dig. Fun runs, I really expected for it to pull really hard on the roll with the tune but not what I expected. You can see every time the gear changes on the C63 the front end of the car was bouncing hard in a downward direction I don't know why that was. This is my second night racing this car and this first time he had bad tires and this time I had the bad tires.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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He raced you with his stock tune. You can call him to confirm.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Can we get the owner of the C63 in here to confirm?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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He raced you with his stock tune. You can call him to confirm.

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That would make more sense on why he wasn't doing better then I thought.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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That would make more sense on why he wasn't doing better then I thought.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Plz change title of this thread to "Stock E55 vs Stock C63."
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Can we get the owner of the C63 in here to confirm?
Last I saw, mthis had "BANNED" under his name on one of his posts... so I don't know if we'll hear anything from him
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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He raced you with his stock tune. You can call him to confirm.

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Here we go again!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Why did he have his stock tune? I thought he was infatuated with his MHP v3?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I bumped into this guy with the MHP tuned c63 and I have a stock E55 and just installed my Cm30 pump yesterday. We did 2 runs from 0 and with my shi**y tires I couldn't get the car to launch but anyway both times lost by about 1 car and half. We also did 2 rolling starts and both times I got in front and he wasn't able to pass me both rolling races, about 1 car. We definetly hit speeds above 100mph but not on the runs from the dig. Fun runs, I really expected for it to pull really hard on the roll with the tune but not what I expected. You can see every time the gear changes on the C63 the front end of the car was bouncing hard in a downward direction I don't know why that was. This is my second night racing this car and this first time he had bad tires and this time I had the bad tires.
Its funny that just today I spoke to someone that was with mthis a day or 2 ago to compare MHP tunes. Its a fact that mthis has his tune installed. mthis has been running around town with his new tune for over 2 weeks doing dozens of dyno's....
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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BTW... to be fair, mthis does own two ECU's one stock and one MHP
v3 tune but I'd be kinda curious to know why he would have his stock ECU installed??? and Not his New v3?

I can actaully verify and confirm from a friend if need be...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Its funny that just today I spoke to someone that was with mthis a day or 2 ago to compare MHP tunes. Its a fact that mthis has his tune installed. mthis has been running around town with his new tune for over 2 weeks doing dozens of dyno's....
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https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...c63-mthis.html
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dlbello
BTW... to be fair, mthis does own two ECU's one stock and one MHP
v3 tune but I'd be kinda curious to know why he would have his stock ECU installed??? and Not his New v3?

I can actaully verify and confirm from a friend if need be...
You can verify from the source if need be, as posted above or in the 211 thread, he sent his ECU back to us because he wanted harder shifts for MIR. Do you have his phone number or would you like me to PM it to you? We have "mthis's" permission to do so.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Hey thanks but no thanks, I read his post #18 and my head is still spinning. I hope everyone has fun at MIR, I wish i could be there....
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Its funny that just today I spoke to someone that was with mthis a day or 2 ago to compare MHP tunes. Its a fact that mthis has his tune installed. mthis has been running around town with his new tune for over 2 weeks doing dozens of dyno's....
I raced Mthis C63 a couple of months ago also and I did not see the car bouncing so hard after every shift. Last night I noticed every time it changed gears it was bouncing really hard so I figured he definetly had the tune.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I raced Mthis C63 a couple of months ago also and I did not see the car bouncing so hard after every shift. Last night I noticed every time it changed gears it was bouncing really hard so I figured he definetly had the tune.
I'm sure he can post the FedEx receipt w/ tracking # to prove it. Trust me and no offense, I love 55Ks , but if it was that close with his stock ECU/TCU it would've been ugly had he been tuned.

edit: Would you be down for a friendly rematch when he gets it back?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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I'm sure he can post the FedEx receipt w/ tracking # to prove it. Trust me and no offense, I love 55Ks , but if it was that close with his stock ECU/TCU it would've been ugly had he been tuned.

edit: Would you be down for a friendly rematch when he gets it back?
AHAHAH No offense taken and I WAS RUNNING ON BALD tires and having big time traction issues and still was getting out in front on the rolls. The races from 0 were definetly shot for me. I had the problem of this same guy calling me out every week and every day after we raced the first time and I knew it was a matter of time before we run into each other. You said it woul've been ugly, depending on how UGLY you think its gonna be is going to make my decision on just driving up to see him and run again? What is your definition of UGLY? 1 car length 2.3..4...5?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dlbello
Just to be clear since there's been so much controversy on the site lately, that was not meant as a jab, instigating comment, or anything else bad. I'm sure mthis would be game, the kid's an animal lol. Just a friendly rematch, hopefully you'll both be on new rubber by then.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
AHAHAH No offense taken and I WAS RUNNING ON BOLD tires and having big time traction issues and still was getting out in front on the rolls. The races from 0 were definetly shot for me. I had the problem of this same guy calling me out every week and every day after we raced the first time and I knew it was a matter of time before we run into each other. You said it woul've been ugly, depending on how UGLY you think its gonna be is going to make my decision on just driving up to see him and run again? What is your definition of UGLY? 1 car length 2.3..4...5?
Assuming new or equally bad tires from a dig to 120-130 probably 3-4 cars

From a roll, it would depend on the speed I guess.

Sounds like you're having fun, it's been months since I've had a decent race.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Umm, what exactly is this "tune" gaining WHP wise on average for the C63? 3-4 car lengths would need a good amount of WHP to gain 3-4 cars by 120mph over a E55 who is leading a car length up to these speeds.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Assuming new or equally bad tires from a dig to 120-130 probably 3-4 cars

From a roll, it would depend on the speed I guess.

Sounds like you're having fun, it's been months since I've had a decent race.
You think from a DIG he'll be 3-4 car lengths on me to 120-130? LOL Just to inform you a couple of months ago he had the shot tires and I jumped out in front about 2 car lengths on him. Now this time I had the bad tires and he got about 1 car or 1 car and half in front. I think there is NO WAY that his car will be in front of me by that much with just YOUR TUNE. I will run him againnnnnnnn. Any1 int he staten island area up to watch a fun run to vouch? I don't mind to lose win or or tie but I doubt that your tune will get it out that far ahead. No Offense
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im sure there are some NYC guys around here up for some friendly races....stand up!
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Any C63 with the the full MHP ECU/TCU tune, im pretty sure would walk 3-4 cars in front of a E55.

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