ESP Off in torrential downpour=big mistake
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Powering through is what got him in the mess. Release the gas to slow the tires and gain traction, then feather the gas to gain control, IMO. If you have time and quick enough reaction.
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There was heavy rain during the last two F1 races... what, you mean you can't drive like those guys tyanger? 
I highly recommend the book "Going Faster" by Carl Lopez/Skip Barber which has a whole chapter on car control.
It made a huge difference for me.
I highly recommend the book "Going Faster" by Carl Lopez/Skip Barber which has a whole chapter on car control.
It made a huge difference for me.
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But sometimes, there's just nothing you can do...even with AWD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwkmGWdCLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwkmGWdCLQ
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But sometimes, there's just nothing you can do...even with AWD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwkmGWdCLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwkmGWdCLQ
In the OP's case, as long as there was some grip, with throttle-on oversteer, it's a matter of dialing back throttle and countersteering, catching it, then re-correcting both throttle and steering. A three-step dance co-ordinated in one "magic moment"
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Ouch! He could have started by slowing down.... but, you gotta have SOME grip to have options, huh! The question is... if he had grip, would he know what to do? Most people don't realize you can't just correct the wheel or lift off and expect the car to go where you want.
In the OP's case, as long as there was some grip, with throttle-on oversteer, it's a matter of dialing back throttle and countersteering, catching it, then re-correcting both throttle and steering. A three-step dance co-ordinated in one "magic moment"
In the OP's case, as long as there was some grip, with throttle-on oversteer, it's a matter of dialing back throttle and countersteering, catching it, then re-correcting both throttle and steering. A three-step dance co-ordinated in one "magic moment"
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The way Skip Barber describes it is: Correction, Pause, Recovery.
countersteer and work the throttle back to stop the slide, when the slide stops that moment is the "pause" and you need to get the wheel back to straight (or pointed where you were going before you started sliding, this is where most people turn clueless) and ease back on the throttle. It all happens in an instant. The bigger the slide, the bigger your steering correction needs to be.
Not trying to preach or prove anything, just hoping to help people out! They don't teach this stuff in Driver's Ed, or even at DE's. In fact, I'm one of those who had to learn the hard way myself.
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countersteer and work the throttle back to stop the slide, when the slide stops that moment is the "pause" and you need to get the wheel back to straight (or pointed where you were going before you started sliding, this is where most people turn clueless) and ease back on the throttle.
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