What will the next C-class AMG engine be?
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Lets hope so, on another note..the smart fortwo meets the 2016 regs right now. Maybe if they axed the smart name and folded that car into the MB line they could almost make it. I dont know the math of it, but I figure they sell about 25000 of those a year in the states, probably more if folded into MB.
Add a few blueHybrids and they would be close.
I know they could just bring the A-class over but that car would directly cannibalize smart sales.
Catch 22.
Add a few blueHybrids and they would be close.
I know they could just bring the A-class over but that car would directly cannibalize smart sales.
Catch 22.
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I think if AMG lightens up the C-Class somehow then the C35 AMG with Twin Turbo Technology could be a tuners dream car! It could get some very serious mpg as well, maybe something like 27-28hwy should be achievable if the car is lighter. With this being said some of the AMG vehicles might be going away but the "C" AMGs will be around forever! The C63 is going to be our 1970 Chevelle 454SS (four us C-Class folks), its an instant classic!
I would certainly want to own a C35 AMG at 3,200 lbs with 400hp that got 27mpg on the hwy. It might not be faster than a C63 at the drag strip but on a race track it should smoke it and would be faster in a straight line then the C32 and C55.
I would certainly want to own a C35 AMG at 3,200 lbs with 400hp that got 27mpg on the hwy. It might not be faster than a C63 at the drag strip but on a race track it should smoke it and would be faster in a straight line then the C32 and C55.
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Plus a Modded C63 would beat the V6 TT IMO anyway... You can even put a supercharger or TT on your C63
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AZN you are absolutely right, but along with the exhaust sound (which isn’t the most important, but great feature) the C63 will be a classic one day, which by LAW will be illegal to ever be manufactured again... So even IF the V6 TT is faster than the C63 it doesn’t mean it is a better car because it will just be like every other V6 TT that Audi and BMW will also make and so on for the even further future...
Plus a Modded C63 would beat the V6 TT IMO anyway... You can even put a supercharger or TT on your C63
Plus a Modded C63 would beat the V6 TT IMO anyway... You can even put a supercharger or TT on your C63
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i'd take a Porsche Turbo/GT2/3 (v6tt 3.7l) over any 6.2l amg any day.
small engine F/I is the way to go, and im pretty sure Mercedes will come up with something light weighted, small engine TT yields 400+hp. the next c generation amg with a new exterior design and nicer interior, and IF it performs better than the current c63(which will most likely happen), im pretty sure 99% of us will dump our c63 and either get the next v6tt version or its competitors.
small engine F/I is the way to go, and im pretty sure Mercedes will come up with something light weighted, small engine TT yields 400+hp. the next c generation amg with a new exterior design and nicer interior, and IF it performs better than the current c63(which will most likely happen), im pretty sure 99% of us will dump our c63 and either get the next v6tt version or its competitors.
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i'd take a Porsche Turbo/GT2/3 (v6tt 3.7l) over any 6.2l amg any day.
small engine F/I is the way to go, and im pretty sure Mercedes will come up with something light weighted, small engine TT yields 400+hp. the next c generation amg with a new exterior design and nicer interior, and IF it performs better than the current c63(which will most likely happen), im pretty sure 99% of us will dump our c63 and either get the next v6tt version or its competitors.
small engine F/I is the way to go, and im pretty sure Mercedes will come up with something light weighted, small engine TT yields 400+hp. the next c generation amg with a new exterior design and nicer interior, and IF it performs better than the current c63(which will most likely happen), im pretty sure 99% of us will dump our c63 and either get the next v6tt version or its competitors.
I would def have to disagree with your statement... How can you say 99% would dump our beast V8 for the V6TT??? Where do you even get a statistic like that... basically you pulled that one outa ur A$$... Even if I were to switch cars in 4-5 years, I would NOT get the V6TT version, I would move on to bigger and better things... I will always want a V8 or bigger (Unless its a Porsche Turbo, GT3, GT2) So maybe you should think twice before posting a ridiculous claim like the one above...
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First of all you can not compare a Porsche Turbo V6TT to any benz's V6... actuallly to any Benz period. The V6tt they would put in the up comming C-class wouldnt be half the machine as the porsche!
I would def have to disagree with your statement... How can you say 99% would dump our beast V8 for the V6TT??? Where do you even get a statistic like that... basically you pulled that one outa ur A$$... Even if I were to switch cars in 4-5 years, I would NOT get the V6TT version, I would move on to bigger and better things... I will always want a V8 or bigger (Unless its a Porsche Turbo, GT3, GT2) So maybe you should think twice before posting a ridiculous claim like the one above...
I would def have to disagree with your statement... How can you say 99% would dump our beast V8 for the V6TT??? Where do you even get a statistic like that... basically you pulled that one outa ur A$$... Even if I were to switch cars in 4-5 years, I would NOT get the V6TT version, I would move on to bigger and better things... I will always want a V8 or bigger (Unless its a Porsche Turbo, GT3, GT2) So maybe you should think twice before posting a ridiculous claim like the one above...
if you have been following the news, you will HAVE to buy a F/I car in a few years to achieve 35+mpg standard.
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By the way, Porsches have Flat 6 engines, not V6. Different animal. That being said, F/I is the future.
I hear the same **** on the BMW boards about how M should not be F/I and should remain high revving lower displacement engines with lots of power. The next inline 6 from BMW will not be a TT. It is a single turbo with a twin scrolls. Hate to say it, but F/I is the future for using the Loop hole for decent mileage according to the EPA. We all know that as soon as you go into boost, bye bye gas.
I have no idea what will be in the next C class AMG, but I can't wait until I get my car in October! haha
I hear the same **** on the BMW boards about how M should not be F/I and should remain high revving lower displacement engines with lots of power. The next inline 6 from BMW will not be a TT. It is a single turbo with a twin scrolls. Hate to say it, but F/I is the future for using the Loop hole for decent mileage according to the EPA. We all know that as soon as you go into boost, bye bye gas.
I have no idea what will be in the next C class AMG, but I can't wait until I get my car in October! haha
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And there are ways of achieving the 35mpg with a V8 one example will be DI... not to mentions many other ideas that some manufacturers are playing with, so if you think there will not be ANY V8's anymore than you must think again...
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Holden, specifically Holden Special Vehicles HSV (Holden is a subsidiary of GM) have grown there V8's (Chev based) up to a whopping .... wait for it ....6.2l !!! pushing out 317kW & 550Nm. This is held up as our premium high performance locally built effort UNTIL they built the W427 (200 only), 7.0l V8 (375kW & 640Nm). Petrol heads go ape $hlt over this big bore bad boy and have always over any large V8, e.g. Ford GTHO, Monaro GTS, Charger. While the likes of HSV, AMG, etc (and I didn't think I'd use both of these companies in the same sentence) can, they will build big high performance V8's, all be it with smarter technology like DI, cylinder shutdown, regenerative braking systems, etc.
A quick note on the sound, I had a Maloo ute pull up beside me at set of lights last weekend and wanted to know who in Brisbane had put the exhaust system on the car, he couldn't believe that that was the factory effort - love it!
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Your claim is ridiculous, 99% won’t do that... Maybe most, but not 99% so yes you did pull that number outa your A$$ because it’s not based on any REAL data…
And there are ways of achieving the 35mpg with a V8 one example will be DI... not to mentions many other ideas that some manufacturers are playing with, so if you think there will not be ANY V8's anymore than you must think again...
And there are ways of achieving the 35mpg with a V8 one example will be DI... not to mentions many other ideas that some manufacturers are playing with, so if you think there will not be ANY V8's anymore than you must think again...
Overall, I think all of this is getting pretty overblown on the car forums at present - manufacturers will adapt, engineering and efficiency will improve, and we'll still have highly enjoyable performance vehicles to choose from as long as there's a profitable market for the manufacturers to deliver that niche.
