AMG 6.3 high-flow airbox demystified
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A 156 090 05 01 / A156 094 056 06
I found these on the front edge of the Box Top between 2 raised dots, beside the slot that Front Engine Cover clips into.
jjb03: Could you kindly/please get us these #'s from your Box Tops for reference??
Thanks in advance for your time.
I found these on the front edge of the Box Top between 2 raised dots, beside the slot that Front Engine Cover clips into.
jjb03: Could you kindly/please get us these #'s from your Box Tops for reference??
Thanks in advance for your time.
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Vadim: You were the first here to discover the extra power gained by removing the charcoals. Do you think that if we grind out the flat sections (pic # 2 & #3 above) of the air funnel, will it throw off MAF readings?
Ususally when you change the airflow through the meter by over 20%, than the ECU throws a code.
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Tracked down what I think are the correct Part #s for the Auzie BoxTops and waiting for confirmation from my Parts guy in Stuttgart . Due to time difference it may be tomorrow morning before I hear back.. Stay tuned
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Alright jjbo3 @ North, thanks for the work! Then I wonder if we can order them from our local Benz parts guy? It would be much cheaper if we could get funnels made.
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Ok Guys here are the nos. Dont ask me what they mean.
left side is A1560900301/A1560940306
4010845/0611057A
right side is A1560900401/A1560940406
4010846/0611059A
Hope this helps
Cheers JB.
left side is A1560900301/A1560940306
4010845/0611057A
right side is A1560900401/A1560940406
4010846/0611059A
Hope this helps
Cheers JB.
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Tks JJB! Now I need to take these #s to my local dealership and see what they make of it.
EDIT: Called the dealer and they can order them. Here are the PNs to use:
LT side A1560940306 $314
RT side A1560940406 $314
It takes 5 business days from Germany to the dealership. I wonder how these compare to the Carbonio?
Edit 8/27: Corrected ROW PNs.
EDIT: Called the dealer and they can order them. Here are the PNs to use:
LT side A1560940306 $314
RT side A1560940406 $314
It takes 5 business days from Germany to the dealership. I wonder how these compare to the Carbonio?
Edit 8/27: Corrected ROW PNs.
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Sent a note to Revozport (they are still sleeping in HK).
Revozport: Could you please confirm if the airbox funnel in Hong Kong is the same as the one on the left. If so, do you think your company will be interested in manufacturing high-flow air funnels out of CF so we can retrofit them into our boxes? This may be an oppurtunity since all AMG 63 engine boxes in North America are the same throughout the entire product line.
Revozport: Could you please confirm if the airbox funnel in Hong Kong is the same as the one on the left. If so, do you think your company will be interested in manufacturing high-flow air funnels out of CF so we can retrofit them into our boxes? This may be an oppurtunity since all AMG 63 engine boxes in North America are the same throughout the entire product line.
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Tks JJB! Now I need to take these #s to my local dealership and see what they make of it.
EDIT: Called the dealer and they can order them. Here are the PNs to use:
LT side 1560940506 $314
RT side 1560940606 $314
It takes 5 business days from Germany to the dealership. I wonder how these compare to the Carbonio?
EDIT: Called the dealer and they can order them. Here are the PNs to use:
LT side 1560940506 $314
RT side 1560940606 $314
It takes 5 business days from Germany to the dealership. I wonder how these compare to the Carbonio?
Carbonio actually used this German BoxTop as a template for their CF box set then enlarged the box itself along with some wind tunnel testing for Flow Dynamics
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Maybe nothing if the motor like mine is stock and the TB's only open to about 50% anyways. So maybe nothing much gained in that. Only benifit I could see is less terbulant air into the intake system because I am sure ther are huge vortex of air in that top and funnel area.
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Vadim what is the stock Throttle Plate (TB) opening. I was under the assumtion it was about 50%. When its tuned does it then open it to about 87%? What tune or do all tunes do that? Why not more like 95% or more?
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Vadim what is the stock Throttle Plate (TB) opening. I was under the assumtion it was about 50%. When its tuned does it then open it to about 87%? What tune or do all tunes do that? Why not more like 95% or more?
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87% is the limit of the map. For all purposes going further probably will not yield a big increase in flow. BTW, we are taliking about two 74 mm TBs that together flow over 1500 cfm.
I am still not sure why AMG went with two TBs, they are under "cost control gun", and a single 82 mm is still cheaper than a twin 74s.
Direct injection??? SLS style IR manifold???
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With these box tops in other parts of the world, the cars are listed as producing 457hp as opposed to our 451hp in the americas, i wonder if this is the reason for the difference in hp?
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I have been PMing Ken @ Revozport back-and-forth on the possibility of replicating these funnels. If he is willing to do it, it would be much cheaper than buying new boxes since the only differences is in the funnel. To fit these funnels, if Revozport will make them, will require you to grind out a small section of the black frame at the air tubes.
I too, thought that the 457HP was probably due to the boxes until someone brought up the octane issue. Then again, as pmknapp and Vadim mentioned, it may not do much until we have a tune.
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