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Old 08-30-2009, 02:22 PM
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suprised m3 won by that much i guess weight is making a lot of difference
what is the weight difference?
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what is the weight difference?
BMW M3 weighs ~ 3,726lbs. vs. C63's 3,814lbs. I believe...fairly close in weight.
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Originally Posted by Yardspeed
Good videos as always Looking forward to the rematch when the C63 has a tune. Do you know which tuner he's going with?
Thanks man. He's now tuned, lol, got it done yesterday, he made 340whp stock, and then 400whp with the powerchip tune, this was done on a the heartbreaker Dyno Dynamics, as most of you know this dyno reads lower than the standard Dynojet, but the gains are there.

I don't think it's the weight, it's the DCT tranny and the 30+whp from the bolt ons, cleary with the additional 60whp from the PC tune, I am now in trouble, lol.
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BMW M3 weighs ~ 3,726lbs. vs. C63's 3,814lbs. I believe...fairly close in weight.
I see you moved onto a C63, great choice, congrats!!
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make sure you share the video with us.
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Originally Posted by dmyrick
make sure you share the video with us.
Will do, win or lose!
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Thanks man. He's now tuned, lol, got it done yesterday, he made 340whp stock, and then 400whp with the powerchip tune, this was done on a the heartbreaker Dyno Dynamics, as most of you know this dyno reads lower than the standard Dynojet, but the gains are there.

I don't think it's the weight, it's the DCT tranny and the 30+whp from the bolt ons, cleary with the additional 60whp from the PC tune, I am now in trouble, lol.
Well DLSJ5 you did also removed your back seats which clearly makes the weight gap between your particular M3 and a C63 even greater. Your car is definitely pretty quick and I'm not surprised of the particular results. The 7G transmission in the C63 is its akilis heel. I would wonder what the results would b if the C63 had the MCT in it. Obviously I am aware that DCT is much better then MCT but I wonder how close the gap would be bridged.
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Originally Posted by dmyrick
what is the weight difference?
seems to me benz claimed weight for our car is quiet a bit lower than actual weight i forgot which magazine i read says C63 actually ways more close to 3900 lb but they could be rong.

Looking forward to the rematch once the C63 has a tune.
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Originally Posted by MikeS54
seems to me benz claimed weight for our car is quiet a bit lower than actual weight i forgot which magazine i read says C63 actually ways more close to 3900 lb but they could be rong.

Looking forward to the rematch once the C63 has a tune.
You're right. Edmunds weighed their test cars and the M3 was 3686 and the C63 was 3993. I've seen some variance but that's a typical weight gap. 307 pounds.
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I see you moved onto a C63, great choice, congrats!!

Thanks, man...I'm definitely lovin' it, especially when I downshift via the paddles...OMG, the sound!!!! And, I'm thinking of upgrading to an ecu flash sometime in the next few months to bring this monster > 500HP!!!!!
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Will do, win or lose!
+1.

I always liked your unbiased/non-fanboi videos.
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didnt the M3 have a passenger to film the race? So, that makes up some weight too.
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Originally Posted by MikeG_C63_AMG
Well DLSJ5 you did also removed your back seats which clearly makes the weight gap between your particular M3 and a C63 even greater. Your car is definitely pretty quick and I'm not surprised of the particular results. The 7G transmission in the C63 is its akilis heel. I would wonder what the results would b if the C63 had the MCT in it. Obviously I am aware that DCT is much better then MCT but I wonder how close the gap would be bridged.
Hey Bro, back seats were in, full weight this time around! But no doubt the C63 is a heavier car, if the difference is actually 300 then yes that played a factor too.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
didnt the M3 have a passenger to film the race? So, that makes up some weight too.
No passenger Bro, camera was mounted.
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Originally Posted by Sincity
+1.

I always liked your unbiased/non-fanboi videos.
Thanks man!
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1/4 tank of gas and me in the car with no spear the weight is 4068 im 175 180
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Tnx Hey u on m3post? Can u get me some guys in the east coast with the gpower s/c m3 I can run .
Mthis.....I'm setting up a day to do some runs (modded M6's, E55's, perhaps some 996TT's)....would love to have a C63 join us. PM me your # if interested. Ask DLSJ5......Drew will vouch for me and the quality of runs
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1/4 tank of gas and me in the car with no spear the weight is 4068 im 175 180
you keep a spear in your car. you are ready for anything!
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I am actually surprised that the M3 pulled on the C63 this hard with just some basic mods. Those modes probably just added about 20HP? It's pretty hard to get power from a NA motor, especially a highly tuned M motor like the M3.
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Wow...I'm surprised at how far the M3 pulled just w/ those mods listed. That's quite a bump in performance. I do believe for example a K2 package on the C63 would pull on the M3, but I'm second guessing by what margin.
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Is the driver of the C63 on this board? I'm curious what his settings were when this race began. I got a feeling he was driving in manual mode which in this case would been a big "no-no". Not to say DLS wouldn't have won, but one of the runs you see the C63 jump a head and then all of a sudden its like something happen and the C63 just was passed instantly. It seems like he tried shifting and either had jumped 2 gears, or let off the gas paddle shifted and by the time he got the next gear it was over with every shift being even worse. Again shows the superiority of the M DCT.
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Originally Posted by MikeG_C63_AMG
Is the driver of the C63 on this board? I'm curious what his settings were when this race began. I got a feeling he was driving in manual mode which in this case would been a big "no-no". Not to say DLS wouldn't have won, but one of the runs you see the C63 jump a head and then all of a sudden its like something happen and the C63 just was passed instantly. It seems like he tried shifting and either had jumped 2 gears, or let off the gas paddle shifted and by the time he got the next gear it was over with every shift being even worse. Again shows the superiority of the M DCT.
Good questions Mike!

The owner is on 6speed.

He was in "sport mode" auto shifting at redline. He may have jumped initally in the 1st run because I wasn't high up in the rev range, and he's got much more TQ than me, the 2nd run he got a better start than me, plus I was loosing traction initially, but not too much. He did lose a little traction in the last run, but I did let off for a second as well.

I'm lighter, have the DCT and I am modded, now that he's modded the outcome is gonna change!

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Good questions Mike!

The owner is on 6speed.

He was in "sport mode." He may have jumped initally in the 1st run because I wasn't high up in the rev range, and he's got much more TQ than me, the 2nd run he got a better start than me, plus I was loosing traction initially, but not too much. He did lose a little traction in the last run, but I did let off for a second as well.

I'm lighter, have the DCT and I am modded, now that he's modded the outcome is gonna change!
Hit me up for the next run ... check my post on 6 speed about pulleys too!!

Nice win!
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Hit me up for the next run ... check my post on 6 speed about pulleys too!!

Nice win!
Already posted Brotha!
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Mthis.....I'm setting up a day to do some runs (modded M6's, E55's, perhaps some 996TT's)....would love to have a C63 join us. PM me your # if interested. Ask DLSJ5......Drew will vouch for me and the quality of runs
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