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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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[Vids] C63 vs. Modded E92 M3 DCT

A friend and I had a chance to do a few friendly mexico test runs to see how his stock C63 stacks up against a modded E92 M3 DCT, before he does an ECU Tune/Flash. After he gets his car flashed we will run again to see his gains, I have little doubt the outcome will be much different then.

I'm a bigtime M guy, but I gotta say I really like the C63, especially after running Josh's Stage 3 Evosport C63 not too long ago. Enjoy the vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOm6JGhIMok
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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A friend and I had a chance to do a few friendly mexico test runs to see how his stock C63 stacks up against a modded E92 M3 DCT, before he does an ECU Tune/Flash. After he gets his car flashed we will run again to see his gains, I have little doubt the outcome will be much different then.

I'm a bigtime M guy, but I gotta say I really like the C63, especially after running Josh's Stage 3 Evosport C63 not too long ago. Enjoy the vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOm6JGhIMok
Hey what ever happend to the vid of the stg3 c63 vs the s/c m3?
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Hey what ever happend to the vid of the stg3 c63 vs the s/c m3?
Not sure Bro, but that certainly showed how fast Josh's Stage 3 was!
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Not sure Bro, but that certainly showed how fast Josh's Stage 3 was!
I'm a big m fan and I always had a m. But I had to come to the dark side and it's not bad The only bad part is the handling even with pp it's not like m
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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I'm a big m fan and I always had a m. But I had to come to the dark side and it's not bad The only bad part is the handling even with pp it's not like m
Once you get those headers, it's game over, you have a awesome car Bro, no doubt.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Once you get those headers, it's game over, you have a awesome car Bro, no doubt.
Tnx Hey u on m3post? Can u get me some guys in the east coast with the gpower s/c m3 I can run .
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Tnx Hey u on m3post? Can u get me some guys in the east coast with the gpower s/c m3 I can run .
I'm only aware of two cars so far, they are on the west coast, If I find out one is near you I will let you know!
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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I'm a big m fan and I always had a m. But I had to come to the dark side and it's not bad The only bad part is the handling even with pp it's not like m
not flaming or anything, but how do you know the M3 handles better than a pp C63?
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not flaming or anything, but how do you know the M3 handles better than a pp C63?
I know 3 others that have a c63 and 2 out of 3 have pp and I drove them before. And I drove a couple m3's before Also
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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I know 3 others that have a c63 and 2 out of 3 have pp and I drove them before. And I drove a couple m3's before Also
those M3s must have some stiff suspension, because i know the difference pp makes is hugh i first test drove a non pp 63 and it was smooth as a E350 and i can feel every pebble with my pp 63

thanks for the info though i've never driven any BMW's much less an M
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
A friend and I had a chance to do a few friendly mexico test runs to see how his stock C63 stacks up against a modded E92 M3 DCT, before he does an ECU Tune/Flash. After he gets his car flashed we will run again to see his gains, I have little doubt the outcome will be much different then.

I'm a bigtime M guy, but I gotta say I really like the C63, especially after running Josh's Stage 3 Evosport C63 not too long ago. Enjoy the vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOm6JGhIMok
I seen your vids on youtube before you posted up here, you have some good clean vids thanks for sharing them.

That M3 DCT is FAST! I didn't think they are fast enough stock at least to hang with my stock E55. Hey do you know any stock DCT that would run my stock E55 just for comparison lol.

I was thinking about leasing a M3 in the spring time but I figured it's not worth all the money for 414hp 295tq. 335i with just Jb3 alone is alot cheaper and just as fast.
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Originally Posted by dmyrick
those M3s must have some stiff suspension, because i know the difference pp makes is hugh i first test drove a non pp 63 and it was smooth as a E350 and i can feel every pebble with my pp 63

thanks for the info though i've never driven any BMW's much less an M
The M3 has an adjustable suspension. In the reviews I've seen the firmest settings did not actually result in the best track times or slalom times.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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The M3 has an adjustable suspension. In the reviews I've seen the firmest settings did not actually result in the best track times or slalom times.
so you think the pp might be a little too stiff to hold the road like the M. i could see that being the case. i do feel like it is a little too stiff around tight corners and feel like the tires might lose their grip
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I seen your vids on youtube before you posted up here, you have some good clean vids thanks for sharing them.

That M3 DCT is FAST! I didn't think they are fast enough stock at least to hang with my stock E55. Hey do you know any stock DCT that would run my stock E55 just for comparison lol.

I was thinking about leasing a M3 in the spring time but I figured it's not worth all the money for 414hp 295tq. 335i with just Jb3 alone is alot cheaper and just as fast.
My friend with the white m3 has a friend that has a dct m3 if u wanna run him let me know Ill make calls.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I seen your vids on youtube before you posted up here, you have some good clean vids thanks for sharing them.

That M3 DCT is FAST! I didn't think they are fast enough stock at least to hang with my stock E55. Hey do you know any stock DCT that would run my stock E55 just for comparison lol.

I was thinking about leasing a M3 in the spring time but I figured it's not worth all the money for 414hp 295tq. 335i with just Jb3 alone is alot cheaper and just as fast.
Thanks man, stock for stock you will take a DCT E92 M3 in your E55. As far as how I've done, I've been pleasantly surprised, but I believe the DCT tranny is the difference, there is virtually zero momentum loss during shifts.

I have ran a few 6MT M3's and even with more power, I still get them. I've ran one other DCT and it was close. With the 335I's I've noticed a similiar difference between the 6MT and the AT, the AT's are faster when the mods are the same, and even if the 6MT has the advantage mods wise, the AT can take it.
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so you think the pp might be a little too stiff to hold the road like the M. i could see that being the case. i do feel like it is a little too stiff around tight corners and feel like the tires might lose their grip
It's not all about the susp... The c got mad weight on the m3.
M3 to a regular c63 Is like a c63 vs e55 Alot of body roll. Now a m3 to a c63 with pp is beter due to the body roll not being there no more but the fat is still on the shell so there is nothing u can do abiut that.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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It's not all about the susp... The c got mad weight on the m3.
M3 to a regular c63 Is like a c63 vs e55 Alot of body roll. Now a m3 to a c63 with pp is beter due to the body roll not being there no more but the fat is still on the shell so there is nothing u can do abiut that.
Might be an odd question, but did you happen to do any before and after comparo's with regards to your ECU tune against other cars? If so how many CLth's do you think the tune got you?
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Might be an odd question, but did you happen to do any before and after comparo's with regards to your ECU tune against other cars? If so how many CLth's do you think the tune got you?
Nah man no comps before and after I could not find no one at that time.
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My friend with the white m3 has a friend that has a dct m3 if u wanna run him let me know Ill make calls.
Yeah definetly if you can find a DCT M3 I would love to see how performs it might persuade me look more into it .

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Thanks man, stock for stock you will take a DCT E92 M3 in your E55. As far as how I've done, I've been pleasantly surprised, but I believe the DCT tranny is the difference, there is virtually zero momentum loss during shifts.

I have ran a few 6MT M3's and even with more power, I still get them. I've ran one other DCT and it was close. With the 335I's I've noticed a similiar difference between the 6MT and the AT, the AT's are faster when the mods are the same, and even if the 6MT has the advantage mods wise, the AT can take it.
Thats some interesting stuff right there.

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Might be an odd question, but did you happen to do any before and after comparo's with regards to your ECU tune against other cars? If so how many CLth's do you think the tune got you?
Yeah he did do before and after comparison with my car. I raced mthis when he was stock and after when got his tune. I don't think he understood the question but he will tell you the same.

When he was stock I raced him when I had a failing IC pump and my car was not running at full potential. The results were very sloppy with both of us exchanging wins and loses. My car was not as strong because I had a very hard time pulling on him when he was stock. I did before and after comparisons with the new pump against him and a heavily modded 335i on this forum and I perform alot better now.

I raced him now with my new IC pump and his tune and he gets me by 1 car length once we hit higher speeds. I usually jump out half a car in front almost everytime and he gains on me to about 1 car length.

I raced his friend with a stock C63 the same day I raced his tuned C63 and I was easily pulling on the stock C63 even when the 63 got a head start.
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My bad I thought u were talking about m3
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Nice vids and great M you have. The C63 did ok, exactly what I expected. I bet after a tune only, you guys will be neck and neck.
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Nice vids and great M you have. The C63 did ok, exactly what I expected. I bet after a tune only, you guys will be neck and neck.
I think you are right, he's already in the process of getting a tune! Rematches soon!
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anyone have vids of a stock m3 vs stock c63? im surprised the modded m3 won by that much. i thought it was really hard to increase HP on those?
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suprised m3 won by that much i guess weight is making a lot of difference
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Good videos as always Looking forward to the rematch when the C63 has a tune. Do you know which tuner he's going with?
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