[Vids] C63 vs. Modded E92 M3 DCT
08-31-2009, 07:16 PM
#52
MBWorld Fanatic!
Is the driver of the C63 on this board? I'm curious what his settings were when this race began. I got a feeling he was driving in manual mode which in this case would been a big "no-no". Not to say DLS wouldn't have won, but one of the runs you see the C63 jump a head and then all of a sudden its like something happen and the C63 just was passed instantly. It seems like he tried shifting and either had jumped 2 gears, or let off the gas paddle shifted and by the time he got the next gear it was over with every shift being even worse. Again shows the superiority of the M DCT.
accualy if you learn how to drive you car in M is a big yes yes. it takes time and ALOT of practice but i got it down pat. and the gear changes are big diff plus i have the tune so maybe it works beter for me. (i know it does)
08-31-2009, 08:38 PM
#53
Super Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: prattville alabama
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C63
if you've any tips to use M mode please share. i leave mine s mode all the time because i cant watch the tach and the road at the same time. i'm afraid i would over rev in M mode
08-31-2009, 09:17 PM
#54
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
'09 C63 AMG
I always drive in M mode, so the only real question is whether it is better to shift at redline (and/or when the C63 "tells you to upshift" with the flashing red upshift message) or short-shift at ~ 6500rpm?
08-31-2009, 09:18 PM
#55
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South FL
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
06 BMW M roadster
08-31-2009, 09:30 PM
#56
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
C63 AMG(sold), 2009 CL550, 2010 S550 Majestic Black, 2010 ML550, 2006 C230, 2009 Venza
Very clean, non-biased videos keep it up!
08-31-2009, 10:23 PM
#57
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Make sure you race again after at least a month of getting the tune (once his ECU is fully broken in). The car will not be running full potential if you guys race the day after or like the first week after his tune. Very nice race, was expecting that, but was also expecting your M3 to pull much more than that with those mods. Will be waiting for the video after the tune!
Very clean, non-biased videos keep it up!
Very clean, non-biased videos keep it up!
He's already gotten the tune, we will be running in the next few weeks. It's hard to tell how many CLth's in the vid from the side mirror, my buddy said it was about 5 CLth's before we let off. I agree with most here with the tune, he might just edge me out, with additional mods no doubt he will.
08-31-2009, 10:31 PM
#58
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If I'm not mistaken, I think he got about 40 whp more from his mods.. I haven't seen his dyno but going off a friend's car with similar mods (all Active Autowerke bolt ons), I'm going to assume that the gains are pretty much across the rev range with a nice little bump in torque as well... I'm going to speculate that his car would lose to a K2 package.. Maybe K1 as well but not so sure... I guess we'll have some kind of indication of that when he runs the same C63 but with its newly acquired PC tune...
09-01-2009, 04:56 PM
#61
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hoboken,NJ
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
09 Eurocharged C63 AMG
1. Deceleration through lower gears
2. Passing other vehicles in mild traffic
3. Listening to the exhaust as you downshift into lower gear
When it comes to racing whether on the streets or at the drag strip it offers no advantage. I rarely seen a post from a member on any AMG board who got better times at the drag strip in manual mode then in sport.
09-02-2009, 07:14 PM
#62
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
12.1 at 115MPH, is what I've seen so far.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
09-02-2009, 07:45 PM
#63
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
'09 C63 AMG
12.1 at 115MPH, is what I've seen so far.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
09-03-2009, 02:57 AM
#65
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Miami
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C63 AMG
12.1 at 115MPH, is what I've seen so far.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
09-03-2009, 11:04 AM
#66
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,257
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
2015.5 Volvo V60 Polestar
12.1 at 115MPH, is what I've seen so far.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
I have not gone yet with my mods, stock I hit 12.7 at 112. My friend has the fastest 335I 1/4 mile ET and trap in the world, 11.8 at 120, I ran his car wtih the same mods I have now, minus the scoops, and we were pretty heads up.
On the Vbox "performance box" times right after the runs we did, he trapped 118mph. I will hit the track when it cools down to get some times with the mods. My 60-130 time is 10.8, but I can do better when it cools down. For reference an M6 does it in about 10.4, and an F430 about 10.1, A C63 with a tune and headers hit 10.4 as well, a stock 996tt does it in 12.1, stock GTR did it in 10.9, of course conditions play a role in the results as well.
I wonder how a modded M6 fairs? Or do they not respond to mods? I have been out of the BMW loop since I sold my E46 M3 in 02. I do remember a vid of a M6 pulling a F430 up top.
Also, wouldn't mind seeing modded 996 TT times.
My next ride is between, M6, 996TT, and C63.
09-03-2009, 02:46 PM
#67
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
'09 C63 AMG
So a stock M6 is as fast as a tune and headers C63. That's crazy. Make me want one even more now.
I wonder how a modded M6 fairs? Or do they not respond to mods? I have been out of the BMW loop since I sold my E46 M3 in 02. I do remember a vid of a M6 pulling a F430 up top.
Also, wouldn't mind seeing modded 996 TT times.
My next ride is between, M6, 996TT, and C63.
I wonder how a modded M6 fairs? Or do they not respond to mods? I have been out of the BMW loop since I sold my E46 M3 in 02. I do remember a vid of a M6 pulling a F430 up top.
Also, wouldn't mind seeing modded 996 TT times.
My next ride is between, M6, 996TT, and C63.
) but an M6 is faster than an M5 with the same V10 engine. However, all that may change with the new 4.4L F/I tt V8 engine.
09-05-2009, 02:43 PM
#71
MBWorld Fanatic!
So a stock M6 is as fast as a tune and headers C63. That's crazy. Make me want one even more now.
I wonder how a modded M6 fairs? Or do they not respond to mods? I have been out of the BMW loop since I sold my E46 M3 in 02. I do remember a vid of a M6 pulling a F430 up top.
Also, wouldn't mind seeing modded 996 TT times.
My next ride is between, M6, 996TT, and C63.
I wonder how a modded M6 fairs? Or do they not respond to mods? I have been out of the BMW loop since I sold my E46 M3 in 02. I do remember a vid of a M6 pulling a F430 up top.
Also, wouldn't mind seeing modded 996 TT times.
My next ride is between, M6, 996TT, and C63.
i have a headers cal thats making 400rw and i beat stock m6's
09-05-2009, 03:08 PM
#72
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here's the Rematch, the C63 now with the PC ECU tune +59whp! Good times, the C63 owner is a great guy as well, love both of these cars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkBtbo9JBoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkBtbo9JBoc
Last edited by DLSJ5; 09-05-2009 at 03:13 PM.
09-05-2009, 03:26 PM
#75
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Agreed, there were a few other runs that I didn't add because the starts were just not right, the cars are very close. I do think had we kept going, like Mthis said, the 63 would start to creep away.
