Pulled over for not using turn signal...receive 5 tickets...
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,760
Likes: 594
From: Seattle
'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
Super Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
From: prattville alabama
C63
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,848
Likes: 15
From: Orange County
2005 C Wagon (No snickering please!)
I think this whole insurance card is nonsense for the cops and Courts to make money. It does not increase safety in any way, nor does it insure motorists have coverage. I can also go buy a policy, get the card, and cancel the next day. If Visa can find out I am good for the money within 7 seconds, there is no reason why the cops can't find insurance for a driver in the same amount of time.
The way to stop government from using fines to protect their bloated budgets is to give the fines and the additional fees (which are 3 to 4 times the amount of the "fine.") back to the tax payers. Why does government get to keep that money? That is the peoples' money. They need to divide it up and every citizen gets a check.
Why are police and Courts involved in any type of incentive system for doing their job? Why do people get tickets for driving 38 in a 35? Because it produces revenue, not because it is unsafe.
Why are cops earning 100K+ and 90% retirement at age 48 for a job that requires 400 hours training beyond high school? Partly because they can bring money into the agency by engaging in harassment.
If you get a ticket now you need to play hardball with the cops. Always pay a lawyer to represent you in Court, and after you are declared Not Guilty (easy for a good attorney when he is up against a guy who struggled to finish high school) ask the Judge to sanction the agency and the cop. I saw a cop forced to write a $ 300. check on the spot for holding up an Engineering & Traffic Survey report in a Radar ticket case, but the pages inside were blank.
The way to stop government from using fines to protect their bloated budgets is to give the fines and the additional fees (which are 3 to 4 times the amount of the "fine.") back to the tax payers. Why does government get to keep that money? That is the peoples' money. They need to divide it up and every citizen gets a check.
Why are police and Courts involved in any type of incentive system for doing their job? Why do people get tickets for driving 38 in a 35? Because it produces revenue, not because it is unsafe.
Why are cops earning 100K+ and 90% retirement at age 48 for a job that requires 400 hours training beyond high school? Partly because they can bring money into the agency by engaging in harassment.
If you get a ticket now you need to play hardball with the cops. Always pay a lawyer to represent you in Court, and after you are declared Not Guilty (easy for a good attorney when he is up against a guy who struggled to finish high school) ask the Judge to sanction the agency and the cop. I saw a cop forced to write a $ 300. check on the spot for holding up an Engineering & Traffic Survey report in a Radar ticket case, but the pages inside were blank.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,949
Likes: 39
From: Clifton, NJ
96 and 08 911 turbos
I think this whole insurance card is nonsense for the cops and Courts to make money. It does not increase safety in any way, nor does it insure motorists have coverage. I can also go buy a policy, get the card, and cancel the next day. If Visa can find out I am good for the money within 7 seconds, there is no reason why the cops can't find insurance for a driver in the same amount of time.
The way to stop government from using fines to protect their bloated budgets is to give the fines and the additional fees (which are 3 to 4 times the amount of the "fine.") back to the tax payers. Why does government get to keep that money? That is the peoples' money. They need to divide it up and every citizen gets a check.
Why are police and Courts involved in any type of incentive system for doing their job? Why do people get tickets for driving 38 in a 35? Because it produces revenue, not because it is unsafe.
Why are cops earning 100K+ and 90% retirement at age 48 for a job that requires 400 hours training beyond high school? Partly because they can bring money into the agency by engaging in harassment.
If you get a ticket now you need to play hardball with the cops. Always pay a lawyer to represent you in Court, and after you are declared Not Guilty (easy for a good attorney when he is up against a guy who struggled to finish high school) ask the Judge to sanction the agency and the cop. I saw a cop forced to write a $ 300. check on the spot for holding up an Engineering & Traffic Survey report in a Radar ticket case, but the pages inside were blank.
The way to stop government from using fines to protect their bloated budgets is to give the fines and the additional fees (which are 3 to 4 times the amount of the "fine.") back to the tax payers. Why does government get to keep that money? That is the peoples' money. They need to divide it up and every citizen gets a check.
Why are police and Courts involved in any type of incentive system for doing their job? Why do people get tickets for driving 38 in a 35? Because it produces revenue, not because it is unsafe.
Why are cops earning 100K+ and 90% retirement at age 48 for a job that requires 400 hours training beyond high school? Partly because they can bring money into the agency by engaging in harassment.
If you get a ticket now you need to play hardball with the cops. Always pay a lawyer to represent you in Court, and after you are declared Not Guilty (easy for a good attorney when he is up against a guy who struggled to finish high school) ask the Judge to sanction the agency and the cop. I saw a cop forced to write a $ 300. check on the spot for holding up an Engineering & Traffic Survey report in a Radar ticket case, but the pages inside were blank.
90% of all traffic ticket attorneys will go talk to the prosecutor (which you yourself can do), get the points eliminated and have you pay a fine. The chances that you are found "not guilty" are very slim, and the court will always take the word of a law officer over yours.
Your attorney is not only up against a cop (which aren't quite as dumb as you think) they are also up against factual evidence and things such as a radar guns.
What you saw is anecdotal and irrelevant, much like your post. Unless you have a very strong case (which the OP doesn't), you will hardly ever get off scot free (unless the cop doesn't appear, which is rare since they get overtime pay to go).
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,230
Likes: 1
From: Los Angeles, California
2006 E55 BEAST
Not using a turn signal can easily be more dangerous than speeding. The penalty for not using a turn signal should be death, and they should enforce it nationwide once or twice a year just to let people know they're enforcing it. I can't tell you how many crashes I've had to avouid becasue people don't signal.
And OP... grow up and use your turn signal. Doesn't matter what lane you're in.
And OP... grow up and use your turn signal. Doesn't matter what lane you're in.
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: So. Cal
2007 SRT8 Charger, 09' C63
Not using a turn signal can easily be more dangerous than speeding. The penalty for not using a turn signal should be death, and they should enforce it nationwide once or twice a year just to let people know they're enforcing it. I can't tell you how many crashes I've had to avouid becasue people don't signal.
And OP... grow up and use your turn signal. Doesn't matter what lane you're in.
And OP... grow up and use your turn signal. Doesn't matter what lane you're in.
Whoa!!! A little harsh there buddy. I see MANY Cops not using their turn signals, ESPECIALLY in the So Cal. area. Not saying thats right, I try to use mine ALL the time but were only humans, and we sometimes forget or zone out.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,230
Likes: 1
From: Los Angeles, California
2006 E55 BEAST
But honestly, I think that cops need to start giving people tickets for not using their signals. I know people who simply don't use their turn signals, no matter what. People think they don't need to because they won't get tickets for it, but the truth is that not using your turn signal is very dangerous. It's the only form of communication you have with other cars.
IMO, cops are not doing their duty by not giving signal tickets.
Super Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
From: prattville alabama
C63
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,147
Likes: 2
From: Central Florida
R129, XF Sportbrake, SC400
And to think, all of his could've been prevented could have been prevented with a simple flick of the finger... on the turn signal post that is, by the steering wheel that most drivers apparently either do not know exists or do not know how to use.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,717
Likes: 17
From: San Jose, CA
2007 E63 w/P30 and Eurotech CF Diffuser
Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 C63 AMG, '06 CTS-V
Thats a lovely diatribe, but there is a ton of BS in there. For the first half, all I'll say is maybe you should write your congressman.
90% of all traffic ticket attorneys will go talk to the prosecutor (which you yourself can do), get the points eliminated and have you pay a fine. The chances that you are found "not guilty" are very slim, and the court will always take the word of a law officer over yours.
Your attorney is not only up against a cop (which aren't quite as dumb as you think) they are also up against factual evidence and things such as a radar guns.
What you saw is anecdotal and irrelevant, much like your post. Unless you have a very strong case (which the OP doesn't), you will hardly ever get off scot free (unless the cop doesn't appear, which is rare since they get overtime pay to go).
90% of all traffic ticket attorneys will go talk to the prosecutor (which you yourself can do), get the points eliminated and have you pay a fine. The chances that you are found "not guilty" are very slim, and the court will always take the word of a law officer over yours.
Your attorney is not only up against a cop (which aren't quite as dumb as you think) they are also up against factual evidence and things such as a radar guns.
What you saw is anecdotal and irrelevant, much like your post. Unless you have a very strong case (which the OP doesn't), you will hardly ever get off scot free (unless the cop doesn't appear, which is rare since they get overtime pay to go).
I have personally gone up against cops in court and won - my word against theirs - the court sided with me. So "always" is just not factual.
Agree with you the OP does not have much of a case.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
I don't live on the forum, and ESPECIALLY not the c63 section. And truthfully, you're pretty sad. Teasing the inbred has lost its luster.
I am sure that anyone in my family that all of a sudden decides to become bipolar won't also suddenly develop a case of the short bus syndrome. So no worries about having them embarrassing me on a public forum.
I am sure that anyone in my family that all of a sudden decides to become bipolar won't also suddenly develop a case of the short bus syndrome. So no worries about having them embarrassing me on a public forum.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,848
Likes: 15
From: Orange County
2005 C Wagon (No snickering please!)
What you saw is anecdotal and irrelevant, much like your post. Unless you have a very strong case (which the OP doesn't), you will hardly ever get off scot free (unless the cop doesn't appear, which is rare since they get overtime pay to go).
Your post was full of tired old saws including some that are offensive to the traditional notions of substantial justice and fair play.
