Attn Vegas owners!!! Same Day ECU tune anyone?
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With the Kleemann tune, we really don't have a large margin, as well as the cost of the actual flash tune tool is very expensive.
The best that we would be able to do is not charge our standard install fee of $90. So in reality you will save roughly $120 or so due to not having to pay the overnight fee to and from Kleemann as well as having the tune done that same day. Another discount I can provide is a cash discount since regardless our merchant account will take away a few points on credit card transactions. Cash deals we can do for $1450.
I can however discount the RENNtech tune if you guys are interested in that tune.
The best that we would be able to do is not charge our standard install fee of $90. So in reality you will save roughly $120 or so due to not having to pay the overnight fee to and from Kleemann as well as having the tune done that same day. Another discount I can provide is a cash discount since regardless our merchant account will take away a few points on credit card transactions. Cash deals we can do for $1450.
I can however discount the RENNtech tune if you guys are interested in that tune.
Not sure I am clear on this. The regular price is $1500. By waiving the install fee (saves $90) the new price should be $1410. Then you mention payment in cash could bring another discount brining the price down to $1450. That doesn't add up. Shouldn't the cash discount come off of the $1410 price (with the original $90 discount)?
Regarding RENNtech what's your discounted price?
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Not sure I am clear on this. The regular price is $1500. By waiving the install fee (saves $90) the new price should be $1410. Then you mention payment in cash could bring another discount brining the price down to $1450. That doesn't add up. Shouldn't the cash discount come off of the $1410 price (with the original $90 discount)?
Regarding RENNtech what's your discounted price?
Thanks
Regarding RENNtech what's your discounted price?
Thanks
To send kleemann the ecu you will send $120 to overnight and have the ecu over nighted back. So in a sense you are saving $30 with the ability to enjoy the tune the same day as to waiting while your vehicle is down.
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Unfortunately do to the Kleemanns price drop on the tune's the current price that we receive is the best that can be offered. If we can get lets say 7 guys confirmed I'm willing to lower my margins bit to please the masses and can do $1450 for the tune on CC, or $1400 cash installed.
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Unfortunately do to the Kleemanns price drop on the tune's the current price that we receive is the best that can be offered. If we can get lets say 7 guys confirmed I'm willing to lower my margins bit to please the masses and can do $1450 for the tune on CC, or $1400 cash installed.
Seven guys sounds like it's going to be a problem. As far as I know there are only 3 of us from this board living here in Vegas. Unless there are other guys from CA or neighboring states coming down especially for this 7 tunes is going to be pushing it.
I'm surprised the manufacturers and the middlemen aren't being more aggressive with pricing right now given shi**y economic climate. I'm in retail as well and margins have taken a nose dive with the discounting that has to take place right now to sell anything big ticket. These kinds of performance enhancement purchases are definitely discretionary. I'm curious how the tuners are managing to hang in there.....
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Seven guys sounds like it's going to be a problem. As far as I know there are only 3 of us from this board living here in Vegas. Unless there are other guys from CA or neighboring states coming down especially for this 7 tunes is going to be pushing it.
I'm surprised the manufacturers and the middlemen aren't being more aggressive with pricing right now given shi**y economic climate. I'm in retail as well and margins have taken a nose dive with the discounting that has to take place right now to sell anything big ticket. These kinds of performance enhancement purchases are definitely discretionary. I'm curious how the tuners are managing to hang in there.....
I'm surprised the manufacturers and the middlemen aren't being more aggressive with pricing right now given shi**y economic climate. I'm in retail as well and margins have taken a nose dive with the discounting that has to take place right now to sell anything big ticket. These kinds of performance enhancement purchases are definitely discretionary. I'm curious how the tuners are managing to hang in there.....
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Correct, the Kleemann's prices have drop roughly 40 to 50% in the last year and a half, along with this drop in retail pricing is basically equal reduction in wholesale to retail market. you also need to keep in mind that Kleemann USA buys from Kleemann Demark.
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Whenever you're out driving the car just pull into any private property parking lot(preferabbly one that's empty) and do a couple quick launches and leave. The next track day is October 3rd
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Since the C63 rolled out, I have only seen 3 others here.
Whenever you're out driving the car just pull into any private property parking lot(preferabbly one that's empty) and do a couple quick launches and leave.
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Who is your SA?
I have only been there once but the SA I was referred to for the bumper repair was Spencer Kaplan. Young guy who seemed into cars. Maybe he would be cool with the Kleemann mod but never asked since at the time this was not the issue.
I have only been there once but the SA I was referred to for the bumper repair was Spencer Kaplan. Young guy who seemed into cars. Maybe he would be cool with the Kleemann mod but never asked since at the time this was not the issue.
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My SA, Dennis, called back and says if there is a check engine light caused by the flash and damages the ECU, then the ECU is not covered. He didn't elaborate on other components and only focused on the warranty issue of the ECU. I asked if that is all that is denied under warranty, and he replied, "yes." I'll leave it up to you guys to read between the lines on the that statement. He did say he has several clients with Kleemann tunes and have not had any issues.
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My SA, Dennis, called back and says if there is a check engine light caused by the flash and damages the ECU, then the ECU is not covered. He didn't elaborate on other components and only focused on the warranty issue of the ECU. I asked if that is all that is denied under warranty, and he replied, "yes." I'll leave it up to you guys to read between the lines on the that statement. He did say he has several clients with Kleemann tunes and have not had any issues.
The Kleemann flash isn't know to trigger and check engine lights is it?
The other issue is when the car gets hooked up to their computer would the ECU get reflashed back to stock each time you went in for service? That's what I'm most concerned about. Really don't want to be shipping the ECU back and forth repeatedly.
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Exactly so I'm not sure what the solution is. Until they come up with something that lets you switch back and forth without shipping the ECU around.
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My only apprehension is warranty related issues and the possibility of having to re-flash following servicing.
Are you going to go for it mid-October? Even if I decide to deal with the above issues I probably won't do it until the guy returns in March as I don't have enough miles on the car yet.
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Have you broken a 1000 miles yet? I/we only drive it on the weekends. Dealing with the re-flash is just a minor inconvenience since the 63 is a Garage Queen. Definitely going with James since he comes up here every now and then. I'm probably waiting till March to do it also; though I have half of it sitting in PayPal right now. My wife will be too busy working on tax returns to notice my spending habit in March. 
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Have you broken a 1000 miles yet? I/we only drive it on the weekends. Dealing with the re-flash is just a minor inconvenience since the 63 is a Garage Queen. Definitely going with James since he comes up here every now and then. I'm probably waiting till March to do it also; though I have half of it sitting in PayPal right now. My wife will be too busy working on tax returns to notice my spending habit in March.
The re-flash issue will become a problem for me now that I'm down to 1 car again so not sure how I'm going to handle this yet. If I can find an SA that has no real problems with Kleemann and promises not to touch the ECU during routine servicing then I am good to go. Early next year will work for me too.
That X-pipe/charcoal filters mod might be another thing I look at as well. Great midrange gains with very little hassle. I wonder how it works together with the K1 tune?
