cls55

ok helms,would you please share the knowledge?

makeitbettr

Can you give any real dyno numbers? I would like to see a car with the intake, ECU, headers, and now the throttle bodies on a few different dynos. I know people will buy them without these, but not me. Heck put a video of the dyno as well. I know you guys have heard this before. I have seen proof from lesser companies, and it makes me think you guys are to cheap to do this. I am beggining to wonder why, and why I have put so much money into mine from u

jacob502

those TB are a joke. Kleeman dont have before/after dynos, becuase there arent any gains.

I challenge anybody in this forum who has a fully modded 63 engine (headers, tune, intake) to gain any power and to provide dynocharts with a video from these TB.

I hate rip offs.

about a year ago, There was a C63 here in the Middl-East with a Kleeman tune and headers and sprt cats( if you really want to call them headers), that I usually have fun beating from time to time. The dude was happy about getting these TB's installed, and eventually he did. I ended up killng him even more. was thinking of getting them myself, but after that experience, NO WAY. Nobody has seen real gains on them. I wonder if the ECU needs some type of new files for these TB's.?

I Know that on some other cars, when you install larger throttle bodies and you dont tune for them, you will lose tourqe. I dont know if this is the same for the 63 AMG....

Sincity

In the SL or SLS?

jacob502

SL

Sincity

Interesting. I wonder why? A K2 C63 should be putting about low 440s @ the wheels. What is the weight difference between a SL63 and C63?

JeffDL

I bet a good amount.

Jae Duk

Still waiting as well....but chances are Helms is avoiding it. He has been posting frequently in other topics.

jacob502

the weight diffrence is 470 LBS. Yes my SL is much heavier, but I have better mods

you said 440 at the wheels. which dyno are you talking about?

mine made 428-430 from Dynodynamics.

By the way these are the mods on my SL:

https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...d-project.html

I think the Kleeman "so called" headers dont give you much diffrence compared with the stock manifold. It is more of a Log-Style type than headers. and to charge $1100 is just crazy. you can customise the same log manifold or even a better one for $400

Sincity

The ~440s is from other members. IIRC, it is from a DJ. The $1100 (I paid $995) is not too bad for the manifolds and DPs with 200 cell cats. How do you customize the stock manifold for gains and new manifolds for $400? I see that you have LTs and Cargraphic mid-pipes; just surpised (not calling you out) that you walked the K2 C63 since you are also 470 lbs heavier.

BTW-Your car sounds amazing.

jacob502

Its still not worth it.
Just like Kleeman did!. I dont know how it is in the US, but in the middle-east we have shops that custmoize exhust systems, even long tube headers for a reasonable price.
Trust me, if you were in my area, I would love to race with you. When you change your car to LT's, you will know what I'm talking about. By the way, my tune is far better than Kleeman's tune.

Thank you

JeffDL

these posts just get worse and worse.