What did C63 ran around the ring?
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I don't think the C63 can make it all the way around the Nurburgring without stopping to refuel...
...that or it'd need new rear tires.
Seriously though...
93.Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 ´99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
94.Aston Martin V8 Vantage (380bhp) 8:13 150 ´05 385 / 1636 sport auto 10/2005
95.Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 ´05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
96.BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 ´05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
97.Ferrari F355 8:13 150 ´95 380 / 1350
98.Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 ´07 457 / 1772 sport auto
99.Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 ´04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
100.Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 ´06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
101.Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150´07 360 / 1626 sportauto
102.Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 ´04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
...that or it'd need new rear tires.
Seriously though...
93.Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 ´99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
94.Aston Martin V8 Vantage (380bhp) 8:13 150 ´05 385 / 1636 sport auto 10/2005
95.Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 ´05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
96.BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 ´05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
97.Ferrari F355 8:13 150 ´95 380 / 1350
98.Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 ´07 457 / 1772 sport auto
99.Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 ´04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
100.Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 ´06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
101.Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150´07 360 / 1626 sportauto
102.Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 ´04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
Last edited by SebringSilver; Nov 3, 2009 at 04:27 PM.
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I don't think the C63 can make it all the way around the Nurburgring without stopping to refuel...
...that or it'd need new rear tires.
Seriously though...
93.Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 ´99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
94.Aston Martin V8 Vantage (380bhp) 8:13 150 ´05 385 / 1636 sport auto 10/2005
95.Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 ´05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
96.BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 ´05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
97.Ferrari F355 8:13 150 ´95 380 / 1350
98.Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 ´07 457 / 1772 sport auto
99.Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 ´04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
100.Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 ´06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
101.Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150´07 360 / 1626 sportauto
102.Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 ´04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
...that or it'd need new rear tires.
Seriously though...
93.Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 ´99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
94.Aston Martin V8 Vantage (380bhp) 8:13 150 ´05 385 / 1636 sport auto 10/2005
95.Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 ´05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
96.BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 ´05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
97.Ferrari F355 8:13 150 ´95 380 / 1350
98.Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 ´07 457 / 1772 sport auto
99.Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 ´04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
100.Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 ´06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
101.Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150´07 360 / 1626 sportauto
102.Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 ´04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
+1but i think SL black series can make it in one tank and one set of tyres, so can we...
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They seem like reliable sources:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürbu...edirected=true
http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html
In fact, the same driver was at the wheel for both the M5 and C63's timed runs.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürbu...edirected=true
http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html
In fact, the same driver was at the wheel for both the M5 and C63's timed runs.
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Wait... sound like CLK BS
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C63 is definitely more capable than M5 on the track... however m5 come with pretty fat tires while also having a high reving engine and M diff which works very well on the track.
C63 equiped with LSD and 275 in the back would take a M5 for sure on the track.
It is really stupid why our car come with 255.....
C63 equiped with LSD and 275 in the back would take a M5 for sure on the track.
It is really stupid why our car come with 255.....
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However 759 isnt that impressive considering that car has 100hp more than C63 and a whopping 130+hp than M3
a m3 with some bolt on will get that time easily
tuned C63 with wider tire and a proper LSD will probably be close
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Don't kid yourself, 7:59 is impressive.
The 13 or 14 second difference is almost immaterial.
If the C63 ran the track the day after a good rain and the CTS-V ran on a day when there was plenty of rubber on the track, you could easily make up 14 seconds. DA matters too, just ask any of our drag racers.
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7:59 is impressive for any 4 door sedan (especially a production Chevy model).
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The CTS-V's advanced suspension alone makes an incredible difference on the track, 100HP difference or not. The C63 ain't a CTS-V, and vice versa...thankfully. 2 different cars for 2 different applications IMO.
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759 for a 4-door sedan is quite impressive. Again,... it's the record. That means nothing else on earth (4 door sedans) has done better.
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You've got to be kidding. 759 is the record. There is no such thing as a 'not so impressive record'. That animal just does not exist. Look at the names of the cars on that list that the CTS-V smashed by 10 seconds or more,... and that's just 92 thru 103. Sure would like to see the 2 thru 91 crowd,... wonder what badges are members of that group. What's shocking in the Black didn't even break 50,... and it's only got 2 doors.
759 for a 4-door sedan is quite impressive. Again,... it's the record. That means nothing else on earth (4 door sedans) has done better.
759 for a 4-door sedan is quite impressive. Again,... it's the record. That means nothing else on earth (4 door sedans) has done better.
in fact all these official times are NOT OFFICIAL, they are all based on what manufacturers' own testing.
I am not sugguesting that they cheated on the time but theres simply no rules and guidance to start off with. Especially on nurburgring that a slight change in weahter can result in 10second difference each lap.
Fact is the 759 proves Ctsv to be a beast but it is more of a market tactic it is used to sell the car rather to prove its true performance.
I am sure if manufactures like BMW or Mercedes are focused on lap times to sell the car they could put some "Official time" for the M3 or C63 that is better than what we think they can do now. Truth is BMW and Mercedes don't need to claim a bald lap time to sell their cars.
Heres some very good insight
http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/1...itter-porsche/
I am aware this article is a bit biased towards Porsche but that aside it nails a lot of the problem with all the "Official Lap times"
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that is simply not true
in fact all these official times are NOT OFFICIAL, they are all based on what manufacturers' own testing.
I am not sugguesting that they cheated on the time but theres simply no rules and guidance to start off with. Especially on nurburgring that a slight change in weahter can result in 10second difference each lap.
Fact is the 759 proves Ctsv to be a beast but it is more of a market tactic it is used to sell the car rather to prove its true performance.
I am sure if manufactures like BMW or Mercedes are focused on lap times to sell the car they could put some "Official time" for the M3 or C63 that is better than what we think they can do now. Truth is BMW and Mercedes don't need to claim a bald lap time to sell their cars.
Heres some very good insight
http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/1...itter-porsche/
I am aware this article is a bit biased towards Porsche but that aside it nails a lot of the problem with all the "Official Lap times"
in fact all these official times are NOT OFFICIAL, they are all based on what manufacturers' own testing.
I am not sugguesting that they cheated on the time but theres simply no rules and guidance to start off with. Especially on nurburgring that a slight change in weahter can result in 10second difference each lap.
Fact is the 759 proves Ctsv to be a beast but it is more of a market tactic it is used to sell the car rather to prove its true performance.
I am sure if manufactures like BMW or Mercedes are focused on lap times to sell the car they could put some "Official time" for the M3 or C63 that is better than what we think they can do now. Truth is BMW and Mercedes don't need to claim a bald lap time to sell their cars.
Heres some very good insight
http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/1...itter-porsche/
I am aware this article is a bit biased towards Porsche but that aside it nails a lot of the problem with all the "Official Lap times"
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Dec '09 Car and Driver had the E63 faster in the 0-60 and also the 1/4 I believe. They had the manual CTS-V and could only get 4.3 0-60 and the E63 had a surprising 4.0. The 1/4 was close if I remember right but I think the E63 nipped it. Not a lap time, but a timed raced none the less.
