Just fitted an X pipe
01-22-2010, 12:30 AM
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my trusted Exhaust Shop here in Perth Australia (and they do have a great reputation by the way) just refused to fit an X-pipe on my 09 C63, stating it would require the removal of the front cats, and that is illegal (Federal apparently) carrying a penalty of up to AUD$50K if they're caught and convicted.
sheeeaaatttt..... now what....
sheeeaaatttt..... now what....
01-22-2010, 02:10 AM
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my trusted Exhaust Shop here in Perth Australia (and they do have a great reputation by the way) just refused to fit an X-pipe on my 09 C63, stating it would require the removal of the front cats, and that is illegal (Federal apparently) carrying a penalty of up to AUD$50K if they're caught and convicted.
sheeeaaatttt..... now what....
sheeeaaatttt..... now what....
01-27-2010, 03:19 AM
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01-27-2010, 03:29 AM
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01-27-2010, 07:47 AM
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Mid cat (catalytic converter)? What and where is it? You mean resonator?
I think that a tune has nothing to do with government regulations. A modded exhaust can cause extra emissions which do not suit Australian specs. That is why they (custom exhaust shop) do not cut cats out?
I think that a tune has nothing to do with government regulations. A modded exhaust can cause extra emissions which do not suit Australian specs. That is why they (custom exhaust shop) do not cut cats out?
01-27-2010, 07:52 AM
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Mid cat (catalytic converter)? What and where is it? You mean resonator?
I think that a tune has nothing to do with government regulations. A modded exhaust can cause extra emissions which do not suit Australian specs. That is why they (custom exhaust shop) do not cut cats out?
I think that a tune has nothing to do with government regulations. A modded exhaust can cause extra emissions which do not suit Australian specs. That is why they (custom exhaust shop) do not cut cats out?
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01-27-2010, 09:11 AM
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I can understand their reluctance to remove the primary cats but you’ve got a very tuff exhaust shop if they won’t remove the secondaries. Anyway, I thought it was the car owner who copped the fine if they drive the vehicle on a public road, not the exhaust shop.
The Secondary cats are just past the primaries, they are not the resonator. Have a look under your car.
RNS-11Z is right. In Australia, any change to the factory tune is illegal as it's deemed to change the emissions as approved under the Australian Design Rules (ADR). Still I don’t know of anyone who has ever been done for it. Usually if you have to do an EPA test here, it’s because you’ve been caught with an excessively loud exhaust or cams.
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01-27-2010, 03:03 PM
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I can understand their reluctance to remove the primary cats but you’ve got a very tuff exhaust shop if they won’t remove the secondaries. Anyway, I thought it was the car owner who copped the fine if they drive the vehicle on a public road, not the exhaust shop.
The Secondary cats are just past the primaries, they are not the resonator. Have a look under your car.
Ohhh OK I have seen our exhaust a lot of times, I thought that OP "found" a third cat (as if Primary, "Mid" and then Secondary or the other way around) I just never heard anyone refer to it as "mid cat" So I thought that OP meant resonator. Sorry, my bad.
RNS-11Z is right. In Australia, any change to the factory tune is illegal as it's deemed to change the emissions as approved under the Australian Design Rules (ADR). Still I don’t know of anyone who has ever been done for it. Usually if you have to do an EPA test here, it’s because you’ve been caught with an excessively loud exhaust or cams.
OK, but if your tune doesn't exceed the government issued emission levels do you still get fined for it?
In Russia we have something called EURO 3 or 4 (I don't remember) basically it is a standard level of emissions for Europe and you can do to your car whatever you want as long as you don't increase this level.
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The Secondary cats are just past the primaries, they are not the resonator. Have a look under your car.
Ohhh OK I have seen our exhaust a lot of times, I thought that OP "found" a third cat (as if Primary, "Mid" and then Secondary or the other way around) I just never heard anyone refer to it as "mid cat" So I thought that OP meant resonator. Sorry, my bad.
RNS-11Z is right. In Australia, any change to the factory tune is illegal as it's deemed to change the emissions as approved under the Australian Design Rules (ADR). Still I don’t know of anyone who has ever been done for it. Usually if you have to do an EPA test here, it’s because you’ve been caught with an excessively loud exhaust or cams.
OK, but if your tune doesn't exceed the government issued emission levels do you still get fined for it?
In Russia we have something called EURO 3 or 4 (I don't remember) basically it is a standard level of emissions for Europe and you can do to your car whatever you want as long as you don't increase this level.
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01-28-2010, 10:26 PM
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RNS-11Z is right. In Australia, any change to the factory tune is illegal as it's deemed to change the emissions as approved under the Australian Design Rules (ADR). Still I don’t know of anyone who has ever been done for it. Usually if you have to do an EPA test here, it’s because you’ve been caught with an excessively loud exhaust or cams.
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