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Old 02-11-2010, 01:32 AM
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Will I get caught if I go catless?
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holy crap! that sounds deliciously evil! what time is it going on the dyno tomorrow!? i wanna watch and hear!
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Amazing work, congrats and thanks for offering us a reasonably priced option.
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holy crap! that sounds deliciously evil! what time is it going on the dyno tomorrow!? i wanna watch and hear!
In the AM. I'm guessing around 9ish I'm running on zero sleep. So I've got catch up. Its another early day for me. Stop by and check out out the run.
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Where do I put my deposit?


When will you have units ready to ship?
Right now my fabrication team is stocking up of 55k headers, We are having a hard time keeping those in stock. So it looks Monday is the day that I will have sets available to ship on the C63 headers.



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Will I get caught if I go catless?
Its been a long time since I heard someone getting busted for no cats. However that is a State to State issue and my ears only travel so far. For legally reasons these headers are intended for "off road use only" What you choose to do with them is 100% up to you.

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Amazing work, congrats and thanks for offering us a reasonably priced option.
Thank you, I've been busting my butt trying to get this project done. So much, it has delayed the official release of other cool project for AMG's. Even ones that only benefit me.
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That C63 sounds amazing!
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Amazing work!!!! MBH truly makes the best headers on the market, for the 55 and now 63!! Awesome progress Mike!

.... time to work on something for the V12!
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Is installing just the longtube headers optimal or would further exhaust mods be needed to unleash the full potential of the 63?

For example would I also need to change all the piping after the LTs or is it not necessary?

The reason I ask this is because I am thinking of the LTs but I don't want to be doing further extensive modding such as muffler/resonator etc etc.
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Looks good, Mike! Can't wait to see the dyno numbers!
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Its been a long time since I heard someone getting busted for no cats. However that is a State to State issue and my ears only travel so far. For legally reasons these headers are intended for "off road use only" What you choose to do with them is 100% up to you.
Check out LAX arrival terminals! I've seen police cars holding up traffic just for doing a smog check, window tint, front liscence plate
BTW sorry for going off topic
The LTs sound great though
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They sound awesome.

Quick question. Is there any CEL lights produced by installing these headers? Or does the sensor still bolt on and everything is fine once its all installed??

I have a renntech tune and I'm looking to add LT headers, but I can't find an answer if I need that CEL programmed out??
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Originally Posted by Merc63
They sound awesome.

Quick question. Is there any CEL lights produced by installing these headers? Or does the sensor still bolt on and everything is fine once its all installed??

I have a renntech tune and I'm looking to add LT headers, but I can't find an answer if I need that CEL programmed out??
+1

I also have a Renntech tune, will it pair with the LT's? CEL?
OR
I will have to send the ECU to Renntech to have it retuned for LT's?
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In the AM. I'm guessing around 9ish I'm running on zero sleep. So I've got catch up. Its another early day for me. Stop by and check out out the run.
Which tune are you going to run when you dyno today? Good luck!
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The will be ready in about 3 days.

As for the MHP , Dads C63, theheaderguy, or Jim... I letting it all go. I dont need this BS in my life.

Andy know how I feel about him.
Good to hear. Dad has been a great contributor on this forum (he just likes his M*P stuff) and a gentleman in his responses.

With that said, it is great to see another promising product out there in the marketplace for us. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Merc63
They sound awesome.

Quick question. Is there any CEL lights produced by installing these headers? Or does the sensor still bolt on and everything is fine once its all installed??

I have a renntech tune and I'm looking to add LT headers, but I can't find an answer if I need that CEL programmed out??

Originally Posted by -michael-
+1

I also have a Renntech tune, will it pair with the LT's? CEL?
OR
I will have to send the ECU to Renntech to have it retuned for LT's?



You guys will probably need to get a reflash after adding LT headers.
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In the AM. I'm guessing around 9ish
It's been a few hours. You got any dyno numbers for us yet?

Josh
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I am waiting anxiously too.
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I need to say that while I personally think Andy is a sack of **** and a schuyster and this Jim guy was obviously just a schill, I've had a lot of interaction with Dads63 and have to say that he is an upstanding guy without motive. He and I should be mortal enemies for our corporate alignments and yet I've found him to be quite a nice person with a lot of valuable information to contribute. I've reread his initial posts a few times now and think his questions were quite valid. You've entered a forum where several members know more than a little about header design and simply want clarifications on why you've chosen to build yours the way you have.
I have to agree completely with you on this one. I remember the drama a while back between several vendors and MHP and reread 2 huge threads about MHP with their a) thermalnators vs phenolic spacers and b) their ECU/TCU drama. There is a reason why MHP was banned from this tite.

I would never do business solely on Andy's inexcusable attitude and ****-poor business ethics. Especially having a random "headerguy" come in that pretends he is not aligned with MHP in anyway come and try to hijack MBH's thread. If you look back at any of Andy's previous threads and see any vendor chime in about a product in his threads he raises a hell storm and tells off another vendor (i.e Vadim in the thermalnator thread) not to ever post in his thread. Just inexcusable.

However, Dads63 has been respectful and apologized to keep things back on level ground. Lets just not see you or other vendors sink down to Andy's level by bashing.

Mike, keep up the good work
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Originally Posted by Dads C63
Next time just state that you decided to manufacture the headers with this design because in your opinion its the best design and not make statements like the one above because its not true. You state it like its fact and thats just not the case.

Maybe your design will make power and maybe it won't. Good luck.
At least they are pretty.
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no call no show turk! ; ) and I thought my car sounded mean... good god!

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holy crap! that sounds deliciously evil! what time is it going on the dyno tomorrow!? i wanna watch and hear!
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no call no show turk! ; ) and I thought my car sounded mean... good god!
i texted mike this morning and he didnt call me until late this afternoon. wish i could have been there. i'm swinging by in a little bit though
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It's been a few hours. You got any dyno numbers for us yet?

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hey. relax. he's a working guy and isnt on the forum all day long. i'm confident he'll be posting the results shortly though. They are MIND BLOWING.
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I will say that I sincerely have to apologize to Dads C63. It with the thing with "theheaderguy" it just seemed to me that I was under some form off attack "By the one that I do not speak."

So to Dads C63 I apologize for getting upset and thinking he played a roll in the mess this thread went through.

On a plus not I got dyno numbers! Ranging from bone stock to LT headers only and LT's with a tune.

I will make a thread officially releasing the headers for sale along with the dyno chart. See you in a few
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I will say that I sincerely have to apologize to Dads C63. It with the thing with "theheaderguy" it just seemed to me that I was under some form off attack "By the one that I do not speak."

So to Dads C63 I apologize for getting upset and thinking he played a roll in the mess this thread went through.

On a plus not I got dyno numbers! Ranging from bone stock to LT headers only and LT's with a tune.

I will make a thread officially releasing the headers for sale along with the dyno chart. See you in a few

This is great! Can't wait! Good job, Mike!
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I used to race 5.0 mustangs and had the Texas Turbo long tube headers (See MM & FF mag Sept. 1994 pg. 82-86). They generated a lot of power and heat and the vibration from the flange at the head required constant tightening of the header bolts. The mustang was not designed well to handle this heat issue. In my 1993 Cobra Mustang I installed ceramic coated shorty headers with h-pipe catalyst delete and could touch the headers while the motor idled/reved. This was great for my daily driver. Now that I have a real car (C63 AMG), I would love to install headers, but they would need to be ceramic coated. Also, the only design I like is the Evosport long tubes due to the smooth curves and individual head connect points. I would purchase today, but I am not in California and do not have a local shop affilliation to help with installation. My C63 is very fast already--beat a WS6 body Firebird 383 stroker that ran 11.6 at the track.


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