Nitto NT 05 or Dunlop Star Specs? ?
Last edited by _AMG_; May 19, 2010 at 04:09 PM.
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I have NT05 rears right now. I will be replacing them with Star Specs or Advan AD08s. IMO the NT05s need to be on the track (road course) and have heat in them (a few laps) to get sticky. For the street, I still spin them too easily with enough throttle, either off the line or on a roll. I think the NT05's stiff sidewalls do not help. I don't drag-race, but AFAIK softer sidewalls and lower pressure are what put the power down. NT-05s are not that tire. They have a lot of tread, but for impromptu stoplight takeoffs, I'm not seeing the advantage.
For street, I think NT-05s are not quite right for the rears. I still have my stock Pirellis on the front. With NT-05s on the front, you'll probably get crisper-feeling turn in. They do remind me of Hoosiers, the way they feel and sound (lots of noise/rumble, esp as they wear... and, rock-stiff sidewalls in the corners, which I like) but without the grip... likely because I'd need to do some burnouts or road course laps to get them sticky. On the street that doesn't seem to happen.
As far as lap records.... I can see how NT05s could do that... notice he said "street tire" record. The NT05, Yoko AD08, Star Spec etc... are all new-generation performance "Street tires" that are really more like an R-compound, even a "slick" with grooves, although... they are often classifed at competition events as "street tires." When you're running a tire that by all comparisons performs more like a "track tire", but is classified as a "street tire" ... well, you're going to set a new "street tire" record.
I know Emilio BTW and he is a great driver (not your average C63 stoplight runner, but a road course nut) and I agree with his sentiments. But I think many people who don't run road courses often mistake a fast-lapping road course tire for a grippy street tire. Conditions that make a tire good on the road course don't necessarily exist on the street.....my .02 FWIW it's a free country so feel free to disagree!

I have NT05 rears right now. I will be replacing them with Star Specs or Advan AD08s. IMO the NT05s need to be on the track (road course) and have heat in them (a few laps) to get sticky. For the street, I still spin them too easily with enough throttle, either off the line or on a roll. I think the NT05's stiff sidewalls do not help. I don't drag-race, but AFAIK softer sidewalls and lower pressure are what put the power down. NT-05s are not that tire. They have a lot of tread, but for impromptu stoplight takeoffs, I'm not seeing the advantage.
For street, I think NT-05s are not quite right for the rears. I still have my stock Pirellis on the front. With NT-05s on the front, you'll probably get crisper-feeling turn in. They do remind me of Hoosiers, the way they feel and sound (lots of noise/rumble, esp as they wear... and, rock-stiff sidewalls in the corners, which I like) but without the grip... likely because I'd need to do some burnouts or road course laps to get them sticky. On the street that doesn't seem to happen.
As far as lap records.... I can see how NT05s could do that... notice he said "street tire" record. The NT05, Yoko AD08, Star Spec etc... are all new-generation performance "Street tires" that are really more like an R-compound, even a "slick" with grooves, although... they are often classifed at competition events as "street tires." When you're running a tire that by all comparisons performs more like a "track tire", but is classified as a "street tire" ... well, you're going to set a new "street tire" record.
I know Emilio BTW and he is a great driver (not your average C63 stoplight runner, but a road course nut) and I agree with his sentiments. But I think many people who don't run road courses often mistake a fast-lapping road course tire for a grippy street tire. Conditions that make a tire good on the road course don't necessarily exist on the street.....my .02 FWIW it's a free country so feel free to disagree!
Also, with your setup, will you have problems if you were to do hard turn-ins?
Also, with your setup, will you have problems if you were to do hard turn-ins?
My personal experience:
I fit an 11.22" wide, 25.91" tall Nitto NT555R Drag Radial (285/35-18) on my stock wheels without any rubbing issue. They would certainly fit better on a 9.5" wheel, but I had zero issues with daily driving and some aggressive launches from a dig. Many others have run this tire as well for dragstrip use. Drag Radials + LSD = Serious Traction.

I'm currently using a 10.79" wide, 25.63" tall Nitto NT05 Tire (275/35-18) on my Forgestar F14 wheels (9.5" ET53). It doesn't rub anywhere and I've tested this with some VERY aggressive cornering in both directions. (Amen for deserted parking lots)

There is a lot more data and many additional photos in the links in my signature.
Last edited by superlubricity; Jun 8, 2010 at 12:35 AM.
My personal experience:
I fit an 11.22" wide, 25.91" tall Nitto NT555R Drag Radial (285/35-18) on my stock wheels without any rubbing issue. They would certainly fit better on a 9.5" wheel, but I had zero issues with daily driving and some aggressive launches from a dig. Many others have run this tire as well for dragstrip use. Drag Radials + LSD = Serious Traction.

I'm currently using a 10.79" wide, 25.63" tall Nitto NT05 Tire (275/35-18) on my Forgestar F14 wheels (9.5" ET53). It doesn't rub anywhere and I've tested this with some VERY aggressive cornering in both directions. (Amen for deserted parking lots)

There is a lot more data and many additional photos in the links in my signature.

The thing that makes me mad is the guy just LOOKED at the wheel well, and said, "275's going to sit too high and too far out...and when you hit a pot hole, the fender-being stronger-will likely blow the tire out".
He talked me into these #%!!%$ 255/18 Falken 452's I have on the rears now...they actually appear thinner than my 235/18 Pirellis on the front.
I may need some more data, but if you say they fit your OEM wheels (and wheel wells) find, then I believe it.
My personal experience:
I fit an 11.22" wide, 25.91" tall Nitto NT555R Drag Radial (285/35-18) on my stock wheels without any rubbing issue. They would certainly fit better on a 9.5" wheel, but I had zero issues with daily driving and some aggressive launches from a dig. Many others have run this tire as well for dragstrip use. Drag Radials + LSD = Serious Traction.

I'm currently using a 10.79" wide, 25.63" tall Nitto NT05 Tire (275/35-18) on my Forgestar F14 wheels (9.5" ET53). It doesn't rub anywhere and I've tested this with some VERY aggressive cornering in both directions. (Amen for deserted parking lots)

There is a lot more data and many additional photos in the links in my signature.
Last edited by _AMG_; Jun 8, 2010 at 03:56 AM.


