propain

I paid $375 for 2 rear tires installed on my 2009.

Hanook V12's 275's. Awesome tire, lots of grip. I kept the Pzero on the fronts. You are paying WAY to much for a car that eats tires.

If I kept her long enough I was going to get a set of Dunlops next. Star spec.

1Lop2K5C

Has anyone have experience on the Conti DW?

jvanbrecht

The DW is what I am most likely getting, they have them in 235/35 but no one has 245/35's (for the fronts), 265/35 and 275/35 are available for the rears. From what I have heard, and read, they are the best bang for your buck.. although that statement is subjective. I wonder.. anyone try 255's on the front

The DWS is also an awesome tire (all season some minor snow), but from what others have told me, not really good for tracking, although apparently they do drag in a straight line pretty well, and have long tire life.

_AMG_

Continentals run WIDE. I definitely would not advise putting 255's on the front. I would stick with 235's in the front and 265's in the rear IF you are running Continental DW's. Other then that, ive heard great things about the DW's.

Questions

I did the same thing you did when my rears went, for the same reason. The whole time I've regretted getting P Zeros again and have been waiting for them to finish off so I can move on...

If I was doing it again, I would move on.

_AMG_

Thats what i did also, I installed the Hankooks and never looked back at the Pirellis again. It was a waste of money to be honest.

FBTO

Serious? For p zero's? Damn, might need to drive to buffalo for tires!!

Questions

How did the V12s wear?

I was seriously considering the NT-05s for example, but after the comments in this thread:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...my-nt-05s.html

--they're out.

The Dunlop Star Specs seem like a good choice, they did well here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...r_spec_page_11

But pricing them out locally, they aren't too far off from the P Zeros...

I honestly want something really sticky.

Anyone know if you can mix drag radials in back with high performance summer street tires up front without ill effects?

Even Money

Got the drag radials on now in back, hankooks up front. No problems on the street, work great at the 1/4 mile. You just can't be aggressive in the corners with the 285 drag radials.

Questions

Nice. Thanks Even Money.

How long have you been running the 555Rs? And no rubbing with passengers?

jvanbrecht

That was a joke... I was not planning on running 255's up front :P

Even Money

I've had this setup for about 3,000 miles, still decent tread left on the drag radials(only 8 passes at the strip), no rubbing, but haven't had passengers. I would add though, that there's almost no room left between the tire and the rear inner wheel well, just under an inch. So, it might rub with passengers.

Questions

Think 275s will be safe?

SonnyakaPig

That's really good information. Thanks for sharing.

Based on your findings, perhaps 265's in some of the other brands are not any wider than the OEM P0's.

This is a good thread, though. It's helping me decide which tires I will eventually go with.

Raleighc63

Buyer Beware - Nitto's are only "W" speed rated up to 168mph.

If you plan to drive your car faster then 168mph you should get Y rated tires up to 186mph.

_AMG_

Very true....
I have seen 265's that actually run more narrow then the 255 Pzeros. Alot of people have this misconception about 265mm tires being wider then 255's, but that's not always the case.

propain

V12's wear was nice and even. I put them on at 6K miles and sold my 09 at 12K+ and they had plenty of meat on them still. Id say you will get about 7-8K miles on them. They dont get as much grip as the Pzero but going to the 275 size puts a whole lot more rubber on the road so it makes up for it.

The sidewall however is not as hard as the Pzero's so I wouldn't advise them on the front tires.

This is my perfect plan for the C63. Get as much miles on the Pzero's as you can on the rears. Should be completely toast at 6K miles. I have another thread on this forum showing a pic of how bald it was. Change out to Hanook V12's and leave the Pzero's on the front. By the time the rear V12's go the front will be ready to change.

Swap all 4 for dunlop star specs. Get as much as you can out of the rears. Switch to another 2 Hanook V12 rears until the fronts are toast and swap again for another 4 Star Specs.

This system keeps the cost at a minimum and helps with getting into a weird tire change cycle. For at least 6K miles you will have all 4 tires brand new. The for 6K just the rears. I only do about 10K maybe less a year due to having multiple cars so this puts me at about $375 for the first year. $1700 a year after that.

_AMG_

Those are pretty good calculations.

AlexCim

I'm gonna get getting two sets of tires from TireRack this week.

I will get 1 x set of Yokohama ADVAN AD08's, and 1 x set of Bridgestone RE-11's. I will get 235/40s for the front, 265/35s for the rear.

Tire test: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118
Customer reviews: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=EP
Other tires in Extreme Summer category: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/extremeperf.jsp

SonnyakaPig

Would you mind sharing which tires that are made in 265 width actually are wider than 255 P0's?

I would like to get 265's but if it's true that 275's don't rub and if they fit well on the stock rear rims, I may go that route.

AlexCim

Actually, a 235/40 will have a similar sidewall size to 265/35. A 235/35 will look odder with a 265/35 on the rear

To explain, sidewall size (35 or 40 etc) is a percentage of width.

235/40 - 235 x 40% = 94mm sidewall
265/35 - 265 x 35% = 92.75mm sidewall

235/35 - 235 x 35% = 82.25mm sidewall

Certainly also, if you are going for different brands front/rear it also depends on the design of the tire and how much sidewall actually shows, regardless of the maths, but if you are using the same brand front and rear, id stick 235/40 and 265/35

jvanbrecht

Well... I just realized.. I have been sizing my tires completely wrong.. sizing the fronts as 235/35/18... when in reality.. and my own complete stupidity.. they are 235/40/18..

So.. I just checked, and the Conti DW's (not DWS) are available currently in 245/40/18 for a bump in the front size, and 275/35/18 in the rear at Tirerack....

Or am I completely missing the point with regards to tire sizing and should just shut up....

superlubricity

You are incorrect. The 285/35-18 Nitto NT 555R is Y-rated.

jvanbrecht

Okay, I realized that the second number was a percentage ratio... but I apparently did not actually run the numbers...

I was planning on bumping up tire sizes for both front and rears, 245 front and 275 in the rear.. but I had been using the 35% ratio value for both.

So based on the following
245/40/18 = 98mm
275/35/18 = 96.25mm
vs (what I thought I was doing correct)
235/40/18 = 94mm

Will that 4 mm really be that much of a visual difference or sizing problem??

ps.. sorry to derail the topic.. heh.. I am only replacing the rears write now, and thought 235 front 275 rear would look funny.. but I think I will go 275 rear anyways

Questions

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp