obsidian05e55

Big Congrats!! That thing is leaving HARD!!

Walter

sflgator

Thank you! That is all I was trying to say. And, Keith is fine...as you can see by his very up front and detailed post (although he still uses his race car to take his wife out on dates, etc...very nice hey, it's still a car in their garage so why not?). It's just his guys, Ben (his worker bee) and RStevens63 (another employee of Keith's or just another fanatical maybe??? ); either way, ppl should try to see things from other perspectives...not everyone will agree with one side or or see things the same.

SonnyakaPig

Congrats, Dads! Great ET and I'm sure you'll be in the mid 10's in no time.

I thought the last sentence was funny. Nice thinking.

Dads C63

sflgator,
I tried to see your side and explain how we got where we are. Stop the name calling unless you are purposely trying to start something again. Ben is a well respected divisional manager here and works extremely hard helping me with the car so cut him some slack for being defensive. He has the same passion I do and takes it to heart like many. As far as RStevens63 he's another finatic that loves racing and knows the car so take it easy. Come on, I was trying to calm things down and you gotta go name calling and thats not helping.

BTW, the seats are all in and stay in 99% of the time so that doesn't make it a track car. The cage is out and stays out 99% of the time also. The car looks perfectly normal 99% of the time if you see it at the car shows etc....

SonnyakaPig

Congrats on your time. Very impressive.

ZorroAMG

Pssssst, children settle down and let this thread be about a fantastically fast C63.

RStevens63

Read post #39, your cage/seats comment, has already been covered. Iff he adds 60lbs with cage, why shouldn't he pull 50lbs with pass seat to compensate? No one else runs with the added weight of a cage, so what's the big deal? More assumptions...

No one cares what you wouldve done with another car, you aren't pushing anything with the one you have you're simply following in the footsteps others have laid down for you. Vettes are a dime a dozen, who cares...coulda woulda shoulda.

How about you give props where it's due and don't insert unwarranted or unwanted opinions about non relevant cars or topics, stop threadjacking and others won't have to correct your posts. You calling his car a "track car" tells me you haven't learned anything by reading the facts posted in this thread. Track cars are trailer queens, they don't rack up 26,000 miles in 2 years.

Think what you want to make yourself feel better about your own car and way to clutter a great thread about a new record with your unwanted opinions on a topic you have zero first hand experience with. Go internet!

RStevens63

Thank you! x1000000.

RStevens63

I have no relation to Dads other than I respect what he's doing.

Sorry but I will not entertain the type of IGNORANCE it takes to accept your point of view. How about you get off your *** and see the car in person before running your mouth about it? Is that too much to ask? Unbelievable.

You are a hypocrite and a poor one at that. Enjoy running low 12s high 11s with your BMW.

propain

Lets just put this to rest. I really don't think there was much name calling going on in his reply. Worker Bee and Fanatical are hardly insults. Sarcasm, yes. Provocative, yes. Your guys might be great but they did start with the name calling first so I would check them as well.


Thats cool that you swap out the seats and keep the stock look 99% of the time. I know well about cages as I have them in two of my cars and they do NOT come out so I figured your car was the same. That changes my opinion a bit.

The headers in my opinion take away from the MB branding due to them being STUPID loud. You have to admit when you think of a MB you don't think of your car. You have a MB/Track hybrid in my opinion with the cage out. With the cage in its a track car.

Either way its water under the bridge. Lets not let YET ANOTHER thread on this forum go to crap. Everyone is allowed an opinion and your guys could have been a little more forgiving in their reply and gator should not instigate this any further as well.

Congrats on your accomplishment. It sounds like you have been working very hard to break into the 10's and you have met your goal!

soldier2304

I have seen Keith's car in person as well and saw his pass in the mile run. This C63 is one of a kind and sounds unbelievably ****in loud (in a good way). Do I respect him for what's he is doin with his car? Yes. Would I do to my car all he has done to his? No. Let's be clear that many of us can do exactly what Keith has done to his C63 and much more if we wanted to, but there is a reason and there are limits (in my opinion) to what I would do or not to a Mercedes-Benz. Also I agree with Propain about the defensive people in this thread. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it is said with respect.

propain

I gave props. I will also insert my opinion if I wish also. You are not helping Dad's case at all. Instead you are making things worse flying off on your internet rage because someone doesn't agree with everything he has done.

In your amazing insight people shouldn't even give props without having first hand experience at all? Good or bad right? Or are the good comments the only ones allowed without first hand experience?

Honestly dude, YOU and Ben have ruined a completely fine thread with your useless fanboy defense. You could have just ignored his comment and got on with your life but instead you decided to be a cheerleader. You need to check yourself and let it go.

This forum is really getting pathetic....

PetroC63

Thanks.

I only had three runs and my last run was the best. I honestly
think I could have run an 11.99 last night if I was able to get
a couple more runs, the weather was that good.

AkaSigFreak

Glad to hear the car is running great! Wish I could have been there.

PetroC63

I thought the real reason this thread was created was to celebrate
Keith's milestone?

I understand everyone is entitled to an opinion but this a great
accompishment. I don't care if Keith delivers pizzas with his car,
a 10 second run in a 4 door sedan that weighs roughly 4,000 lbs
is impressive.

SonnyakaPig

The question of when a car ceases to be a very fast configuration of a standard vehicle and becomes a track car/race car is always open to interpretation.

I remember earlier this year on the Camaro5 forums there was a C5 Camaro race car featured on the homepage that ran 8's I believe. It was basically a Camaro body but in reality it was no longer a modded, factory car. It was a race car.

Of course, that car is much more of a race car than Dads. Yet, there was a similar debate about whether the car was the "first" Camaro in the 8's.

Personally, I think Dad's car is a fine example of the new super-fast street cars. It wasn't so long ago that street cars were having difficulty remaining completely streetable while being 10-sec cars.

Currently, cars like Dads are displaying a very special ability to remain fully streetable while still having beastly track potential.

I don't see why it's relevant to this discussion whether those who respond to this thread have taken their C63's as far as Dads. Like others have said, even those that have the money to do similar mods, do not want to go that far.

I think at some point, a MB starts to lose it's factory image and becomes as custom as the owner/builder wants. This is obviously subjective.

The thing is, even though Dads car is setting all the records, it really does seem like all of the hard work and each of the individual mods have aided in making his car the fastest. That's a given.

For me, though, his car is no longer an example of a bolt-on, modded, C63. I'm not saying that the car is not streetable. Obviously, everyone says that it runs great on the street. It's just that it's on its own level now. And I for one am excited to see how far Dads can go.

benscott01

OK, Propain, I'll play your silly game. For you to throw me into this "ruined thread" again, is just plain dumb. I simply responded to SFLGator "not" wanting to hear my "defense". Since which, as I stated before "I was done". I'm not here to defend Keith's car. The car speaks for itself. But you are correct, if you're going to bash Keith's car, without first checking your facts. Then far be it for me to make a correction. After Keith, AGAIN, gave an entire timeline and parts breakdown of his car (just like he always does), then did SFLGator understand. We've had this thread before. It's a DEAD issue. Get over it.

Have fun, and be safe.

SonnyakaPig

You're welcome.

I know you could have run 11.99. It's just a matter of time for you. That's awesome. It's also my goal.

RStevens63

Let's break this down to it's most basic level, as it seems even sflgator has even gotten the point.

This thread not about GTRs, not about Vettes, not about $ spent, it's about Dads car cracking the 10s despite facing major adversity--you won't see it because your not pushing nearly as hard not a knock just another fact.

You didnt understand about the cage/seat issue (you assumed) and now the truth and dropped the issue as you should have.

Now you state that the headers making it loud make it a track car as well, in that case there are probably 50 members on here with track cars that didn't know it. Long story short your compass for judging a street car from a track car is so far off I'd be surprised if you could find your car in the parking lot. A DTM is a track car, a SLS GT3 is a track car. If you think a loud C63 makes the car un MB like that's your opinion, however this thread is not about what you think or feel in that dept. Again it is about congratulating Dads on a job well done.

Now stop calling the car a "track car" and walk away with the compliments posted. In order to define a vehicle as track only yes you have to see it in person and better yet ride in it. The fact he has 26k miles in 2 years tells me it's more than a trailer queen track car. Otherwise start your own thread in which you call out all header owning C63s as track cars, including sflgator.

97W202

so the question at hand... how much HP/TQ are u putting down

benscott01

propain

My Charger had 30K miles on its 440 BEFORE I made it a track car. Does that mean my Charger is not a track car?

I know much about tracking cars. Probably way more than you. I'm sure I could find my car in a parking lot. Stop being a douche. How about that? The internet is a wonderful place where people share opinions. I call Dad's car a track car because it barely resembles its stock form aside from the shell. WITH the cage its absolutely a track car. THUS THE NEED FOR THE CAGE!


Congrats Dad again on your accomplishment. I made it nice and big because apparently the first 3 times wasn't enough for your fan-boys.


Can we move on now or do you two hens need the last word?

propain

I think they were north of 600 to the wheels with the NOS shot. There was another thread about it.

benscott01

Moved on.

propain

+1

Congrats guys. I really do mean that. Ive always been a fan of Dad's car.