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Yes it was.... I'm sorry I forgot to quote your post. I found the post very interesting 
I haven't dynoed my car for about a year I think so I can't remember what the AFRs were but I'm pretty sure they were in the 12s except for a brief second near very high rpms. Next time I dyno, I'll pay more attention to AFRs and will break down in as much detailed way as possible 
I haven't dynoed my car for about a year I think so I can't remember what the AFRs were but I'm pretty sure they were in the 12s except for a brief second near very high rpms. Next time I dyno, I'll pay more attention to AFRs and will break down in as much detailed way as possible I would also like to have a better idea about what my car (stock, except for filters/ROW's) is at AFRwise.
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LOL - I'm fully aware that he said "nothing"...so if you wanna split hairs, cool, but I'm pretty sure he was referring to other cars and not bikes. This is a car forum is it not? And it kind of goes without saying....any "retard" knows that a high hp bike has the win the power to weight ratio department 
But thanks for pointing out the obvious
But thanks for pointing out the obvious Very classy... Mr. On Probation
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That's a very generic statement by KB. They build good superchargers but they aren't world renowned for their tuning by any means. chamber efficiency plays a role, 2 valve or 4 valve or even 3 valve, spark plug placement and count, etc just too many variables to throw one number out there like that.
Blame me, not KB. Btw, KB is all about recognizing the variables.
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...My apologies if I assumed that there were a few intelligent people around here.And your referencing 600+ hp bikes vs 1200hp cars??? Excuse me if that comparison seems a bit ridiculous. Check here to see what a 250hp bike does to a 800 hp car:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/250h...supra_1617.htm
I stand by my "retard" comment given the above. If you don't like it then you really shouldn't have made such ridiculous comparison.
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That completely depends on the application at hand. 12s are safe for naturally aspirated motors but you don't have to be there across the board. Then consider more timing = more fuel, less timing= less fuel. Timing advance is ultimately a measure of the inefficiency of the engine itself the more you need to run the less efficient the powerplant.
Lots of speculation and guessing going on, I'm ready for results
Lots of speculation and guessing going on, I'm ready for results
But I'm so thrilled you're ready for results, lol. 
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Hmmm....let me put it this way: a 900rwhp Supra has no chance against a 550rwhp turbo Busa let alone a 650rwhp turbo Busa.....lets not forget who&what just set the outright stand mile speed redord..that would be a street legal turbo Busa that ran 278mph..any Supras close to that?
And a Gen2 Busa w full exhaust,PC3USB but otherwise bone stock(including stock gearing)ran 200mph at maxton w a 200lb rider on board...there are PLENTY of MODDED ones running in the 220-265mph zone on a regular basis&have no issues being driven on the streets in traffic
I have NO interest in getting into a forum debate as to which is the speed king of the streets;I merely pointing out that when you say "Nothing will beat a 1200hp Supra" there are plenty of bikes that can do it w/out issue
No problem though,most "car only" guys really have no clue as to what hi hp turbo bikes can do
And a Gen2 Busa w full exhaust,PC3USB but otherwise bone stock(including stock gearing)ran 200mph at maxton w a 200lb rider on board...there are PLENTY of MODDED ones running in the 220-265mph zone on a regular basis&have no issues being driven on the streets in traffic
I have NO interest in getting into a forum debate as to which is the speed king of the streets;I merely pointing out that when you say "Nothing will beat a 1200hp Supra" there are plenty of bikes that can do it w/out issue
No problem though,most "car only" guys really have no clue as to what hi hp turbo bikes can do
The point was there isn't a car on the road that can touch his Supra. At least not yet. For the record there hasn't been a bike that could either. I'm not much of a bike fan so I don't know all bikes out there but he has handled anything that has come next to him with ease.
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did you really just compare a car to a motorcycle ???? LOL, retarded...
And for you guys comparing tunes/tuners who runs them, who goes to the track, results etc...Take a second and think about the fact that the membership here and elsewhere of people who post on the internet about their cars makes up about 1% of the total AMG owners (if that). My point is, you guys are debating about a VERY small percentage/segment of the population. I've run into people many times who have highly modded AMG's and they have never heard about MBWorld.
And for you guys comparing tunes/tuners who runs them, who goes to the track, results etc...Take a second and think about the fact that the membership here and elsewhere of people who post on the internet about their cars makes up about 1% of the total AMG owners (if that). My point is, you guys are debating about a VERY small percentage/segment of the population. I've run into people many times who have highly modded AMG's and they have never heard about MBWorld.
You are right about the fact that mbworld only represent a small number of owners (not sure if it is 1% or not but I know it is small). However, they are a group who is very passionate about cars, modding, racing, etc.... and they are actually somewhat random: they come from all types of different backgrounds, experiences, etc..... It's almost like a poll: they usually do not go around surveying every single person, they just pick a random smaller subset to poll.
Now bring that black series to Famoso and try to capture the record for stock CLK63 BS
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The sure the space shuttle could beat his 1200HP Supra too. Were talking cars here bro.
The point was there isn't a car on the road that can touch his Supra. At least not yet. For the record there hasn't been a bike that could either. I'm not much of a bike fan so I don't know all bikes out there but he has handled anything that has come next to him with ease.
The point was there isn't a car on the road that can touch his Supra. At least not yet. For the record there hasn't been a bike that could either. I'm not much of a bike fan so I don't know all bikes out there but he has handled anything that has come next to him with ease.
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did you really just compare a car to a motorcycle ???? LOL, retarded...
And for you guys comparing tunes/tuners who runs them, who goes to the track, results etc...Take a second and think about the fact that the membership here and elsewhere of people who post on the internet about their cars makes up about 1% of the total AMG owners (if that). My point is, you guys are debating about a VERY small percentage/segment of the population. I've run into people many times who have highly modded AMG's and they have never heard about MBWorld.
And for you guys comparing tunes/tuners who runs them, who goes to the track, results etc...Take a second and think about the fact that the membership here and elsewhere of people who post on the internet about their cars makes up about 1% of the total AMG owners (if that). My point is, you guys are debating about a VERY small percentage/segment of the population. I've run into people many times who have highly modded AMG's and they have never heard about MBWorld.
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The sure the space shuttle could beat his 1200HP Supra too. Were talking cars here bro.
The point was there isn't a car on the road that can touch his Supra. At least not yet. For the record there hasn't been a bike that could either. I'm not much of a bike fan so I don't know all bikes out there but he has handled anything that has come next to him with ease.
The point was there isn't a car on the road that can touch his Supra. At least not yet. For the record there hasn't been a bike that could either. I'm not much of a bike fan so I don't know all bikes out there but he has handled anything that has come next to him with ease.
Funniest thing Ive heard all week
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I know racing isn't high on your list
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Is there a car out there that can beat him? Im sure of it. Has he come across it yet? No.
Lets talk more about bikes beating him. You are representing yourself well on this forum so far. Lets see what you do with your next 20 posts...
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I also pointed out the obvious when I called you Mr On-Probation,its there right under your screen name for all to see..you know,just in case it wasn't obvious to the few intelligent people here.
Now is that an assumption on my part or is it plainly obvious to see why someone with your demeanor&internet persona could possibly be ON PROBATION..its very clear that you rub members feathers the wrong way,but Id just like to point out the obvious as you say...so carry on champ
Now is that an assumption on my part or is it plainly obvious to see why someone with your demeanor&internet persona could possibly be ON PROBATION..its very clear that you rub members feathers the wrong way,but Id just like to point out the obvious as you say...so carry on champ
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More importantly, why are they even being counted if they do not post their times or share it with other enthusiasts or even with the tuning company they bought products from.In that case, I can also bring up another point (not realistic but plausible at least for the sake of argument)..... you are not considering all the "unknown" people who did buy non-MHP products and ended-up going to the track and produced non satisfactory results, and so decided to not post at all.
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Yes, nothing on the street has ever beat his car. Super cars, hot rods, ricers. Nothing. If you have a car that you think can beat his please let me know im sure he could use some extra money.
Is there a car out there that can beat him? Im sure of it. Has he come across it yet? No.
Lets talk more about bikes beating him. You are representing yourself well on this forum so far. Lets see what you do with your next 20 posts...
Is there a car out there that can beat him? Im sure of it. Has he come across it yet? No.
Lets talk more about bikes beating him. You are representing yourself well on this forum so far. Lets see what you do with your next 20 posts...
Nope,sorry dont have a car that will beat him.Prolly wont even beat your cars w my car.Never said I did.Dont really care..Instead of benchracing vicariously through your friends car,why dont you line up your fastest car against one of my fastest vehicles?We can do that anytime youd like,Im closer than you think.
My intention was not to start a bike/car debate.If your statement I originally qouted was misunderstood by me&you did not have bikes in mind than I retract my comments and there is nothing further to be discussed.
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LOL - So what does my status here have to do with this thread or your retarded posts ? Oh that's right, NOTHING. Sure, I speak my mind and some people get bent outta shape, but again, that has no bearing on this discussion. Nice try though, good diversionary tactic. Too bad others have already seen through it - seems like I'm not the only one who found your comparison retarded.
Please stop the mental beatings you are bestowing upon me,please
Im out of the thread,Propain if you wanna set something up PM me
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And my point was.... all those "unknown" modders/racers could just as likely have MHP products as OE Tuning products as company X products. Why are they being counted for one company but not the other More importantly, why are they even being counted if they do not post their times or share it with other enthusiasts or even with the tuning company they bought products from.
In that case, I can also bring up another point (not realistic but plausible at least for the sake of argument)..... you are not considering all the "unknown" people who did buy non-MHP products and ended-up going to the track and produced non satisfactory results, and so decided to not post at all.
More importantly, why are they even being counted if they do not post their times or share it with other enthusiasts or even with the tuning company they bought products from.In that case, I can also bring up another point (not realistic but plausible at least for the sake of argument)..... you are not considering all the "unknown" people who did buy non-MHP products and ended-up going to the track and produced non satisfactory results, and so decided to not post at all.
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And my point was.... all those "unknown" modders/racers could just as likely have MHP products as OE Tuning products as company X products. Why are they being counted for one company but not the other More importantly, why are they even being counted if they do not post their times or share it with other enthusiasts or even with the tuning company they bought products from.
In that case, I can also bring up another point (not realistic but plausible at least for the sake of argument)..... you are not considering all the "unknown" people who did buy non-MHP products and ended-up going to the track and produced non satisfactory results, and so decided to not post at all.
More importantly, why are they even being counted if they do not post their times or share it with other enthusiasts or even with the tuning company they bought products from.In that case, I can also bring up another point (not realistic but plausible at least for the sake of argument)..... you are not considering all the "unknown" people who did buy non-MHP products and ended-up going to the track and produced non satisfactory results, and so decided to not post at all.
How about the unknown people who bought MHP products and ended up with non-satisfactory results and decided not the post either?So many factors.
Yes, MHP right now. Well see soon.... I dont think OE tunes have purposefully kept their runs to themselves because of non satisfactory results. I think that OE tunes have not made it to the track yet. The numbers will come....
As people have pointed out before. People go to MHP because MHP has a good track record and they are people who are more inclined to track their car. Other people who dont want to track their MB look at the dyno results to help them with their decision and will more readily hit the dyno before ever hitting the track.
Myself... I enjoy the track and will certainly get there ASAP with my OE tune which im confident will put down some solid numbers. I only have my OE tune for 2K miles now. About 2 months or so. I also know we can expect to see some numbers from Jeremy real soon..
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If your buddy wants a money run against a bike PM me&lets try to set it up..no need to get way off topic here
Nope,sorry dont have a car that will beat him.Prolly wont even beat your cars w my car.Never said I did.Dont really care..Instead of benchracing vicariously through your friends car,why dont you line up your fastest car against one of my fastest vehicles?We can do that anytime youd like,Im closer than you think.
My intention was not to start a bike/car debate.If your statement I originally qouted was misunderstood by me&you did not have bikes in mind than I retract my comments and there is nothing further to be discussed.
Nope,sorry dont have a car that will beat him.Prolly wont even beat your cars w my car.Never said I did.Dont really care..Instead of benchracing vicariously through your friends car,why dont you line up your fastest car against one of my fastest vehicles?We can do that anytime youd like,Im closer than you think.
My intention was not to start a bike/car debate.If your statement I originally qouted was misunderstood by me&you did not have bikes in mind than I retract my comments and there is nothing further to be discussed.
Otherwise... just let it go. You made a dumb comment. I think we can all get past it.
