Is the c63 going to get the 5.5 V8 TT engine?
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Is the c63 going to get the 5.5 V8 TT engine?
Pardon my ignorance as I have not kept up with news for this car because I don't own it anymore, but will the c amg be fitted with the upcoming 5.5 v8 tt engine?
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The C-Class may not get it right away but I would think that eventually AMG will want to fade out the 63 engine all together due to fuel effeciency, which would mean the C-Class will eventually get a variant of the 5.5L twin turbo
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The only certainty is change. What MB has planned for the C class AMG may not even be decided as of yet. What is a fact is that the C63 will soon be the last platform equipped with the M156 motor and 7G-Tronic transmission. The costs to continue production for a limited application can’t be in MB best interest so what do they do?
This is pure speculation but I think they are debating over one of two paths for the C AMG. The easiest would be to create another baby E class and switch to a detuned M157 in order not to offend the owner hierarchy. It would however receive the latest MCT tranny because the 7G-Tronic is obsolete, has questionable torque limitations and there is no reason to keep producing it. The other route would be to target the SLS and expand the M159 application which has already been started with the P31 package. This would make sustaining the production run for the SLS (and it’s lesser expensive sibling presumed to be in the works) more financially viable by adding a 4 door derivative into the mix. The folks at AMG should consider that this route changes the C63’s role in the lineup and provides a separation from the E63 by means of purpose rather than status. This does however open the door for the price gap to be substantially closed which I think is going to happen either way. The improvements that are coming will not be cheap and an $80,000 U.S. price point is very likely.
This is pure speculation but I think they are debating over one of two paths for the C AMG. The easiest would be to create another baby E class and switch to a detuned M157 in order not to offend the owner hierarchy. It would however receive the latest MCT tranny because the 7G-Tronic is obsolete, has questionable torque limitations and there is no reason to keep producing it. The other route would be to target the SLS and expand the M159 application which has already been started with the P31 package. This would make sustaining the production run for the SLS (and it’s lesser expensive sibling presumed to be in the works) more financially viable by adding a 4 door derivative into the mix. The folks at AMG should consider that this route changes the C63’s role in the lineup and provides a separation from the E63 by means of purpose rather than status. This does however open the door for the price gap to be substantially closed which I think is going to happen either way. The improvements that are coming will not be cheap and an $80,000 U.S. price point is very likely.
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It sure sounds to me as though the 2011 is the last gasp for the W156, except for the variant in the SLS. According to MT magazine:
Now, a big block V-8 should sound good. No big surprise there. And like other AMG 6.2-liters before it, the P31 drives magnificently. Check out the numbers we captured: 0-60 mph happens in 4 seconds. Truthfully, in 3.99 seconds, but we rounded up... Rote Sau Jr. dispenses the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 114.8 mph, just a tick off what the 550-horsepower 2011 Shelby GT500 is capable of. To reiterate, this bloody red sucker is fast, and you have the M156 to thank for that fact.
And it's gone. Bye-bye, see ya, nice knowing you, auf Wiedersehen. The world has moved on. Remember, the P31 Development Package is the last hurrah for the M156. Back to why: Mercedes-Benz can't be happy with the $2,100 Gas Guzzler tax the feds slap onto this C63. Nor can AMG easily change the fact that all modern Benzes are borderline obese... Let me leave you with this: When I explained to a Mercedes engineer what this here story would be about, the parting shot of his fantastic, yet obsolete 6.2-liter V-8, he wrote back, "Couldn't agree more." And neither can we.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
Now, a big block V-8 should sound good. No big surprise there. And like other AMG 6.2-liters before it, the P31 drives magnificently. Check out the numbers we captured: 0-60 mph happens in 4 seconds. Truthfully, in 3.99 seconds, but we rounded up... Rote Sau Jr. dispenses the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 114.8 mph, just a tick off what the 550-horsepower 2011 Shelby GT500 is capable of. To reiterate, this bloody red sucker is fast, and you have the M156 to thank for that fact.
And it's gone. Bye-bye, see ya, nice knowing you, auf Wiedersehen. The world has moved on. Remember, the P31 Development Package is the last hurrah for the M156. Back to why: Mercedes-Benz can't be happy with the $2,100 Gas Guzzler tax the feds slap onto this C63. Nor can AMG easily change the fact that all modern Benzes are borderline obese... Let me leave you with this: When I explained to a Mercedes engineer what this here story would be about, the parting shot of his fantastic, yet obsolete 6.2-liter V-8, he wrote back, "Couldn't agree more." And neither can we.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
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I think the C will get the 5.5TT in the next 2-3years tops and I disagree that it will bump the price point of this car to $80K+ (unless you're talking fully loaded)--this car (the C63) is AMGs answer to the M3s, RS4s, etc. of the world and it will have to always be priced close to their lineup.
just my .02, and it's just a guess at that
just my .02, and it's just a guess at that
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I think the C will get the 5.5TT in the next 2-3years tops and I disagree that it will bump the price point of this car to $80K+ (unless you're talking fully loaded)--this car (the C63) is AMGs answer to the M3s, RS4s, etc. of the world and it will have to always be priced close to their lineup.
just my .02, and it's just a guess at that![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
just my .02, and it's just a guess at that
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Anyone lucky enough to have gotten a deeply dicounted C63 probably got the best bang for the buck that we are likely to see for a while.
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