My Top 16 Times - They are all under 12 seconds and two different tracts on diff days..


Sorted by MPH..

Time MPH 60' Date Time Track
11.896 116.91 1.891 10/22/2010 11:39am MIR
11.808 116.98 1.819 10/22/2010 3:17pm MIR
11.901 117.09 1.866 10/22/2010 10:21am MIR
11.891 117.27 1.862 10/22/2010 9:53am MIR
11.997 117.92 1.91 2/20/2010 2:34pm ROCK
11.818 118.23 1.866 10/22/2010 2:14pm MIR
11.893 118.27 1.795 10/22/2010 2.00pm MIR
11.806 118.55 1.881 10/22/2010 3:22pm MIR
11.962 118.73 1.868 2/20/2010 2:27pm ROCK
11.946 118.80 1.886 2/20/2010 1:09pm ROCK
11.975 119.01 1.867 2/20/2010 4:25pm ROCK
11.756 119.14 1.828 10/22/2010 2:06pm MIR
11.78 119.44 1.84 10/22/2010 4:19pm MIR
11.647 120.10 1.751 10/22/2010 4:25pm MIR
11.729 120.34 1.832 10/22/2010 4:22pm MIR

Sorted by 1/4 time:


Time MPH 60' Date Time Track
11.647 120.10 1.751 10/22/2010 4:25pm MIR
11.729 120.34 1.832 10/22/2010 4:22pm MIR
11.756 119.14 1.828 10/22/2010 2:06pm MIR
11.78 119.44 1.84 10/22/2010 4:19pm MIR
11.806 118.55 1.881 10/22/2010 3:22pm MIR
11.808 116.98 1.819 10/22/2010 3:17pm MIR
11.818 118.23 1.866 10/22/2010 2:14pm MIR
11.891 117.27 1.862 10/22/2010 9:53am MIR
11.893 118.27 1.795 10/22/2010 2.00pm MIR
11.896 116.91 1.891 10/22/2010 11:39am MIR
11.901 117.09 1.866 10/22/2010 10:21am MIR
11.946 118.80 1.886 2/20/2010 1:09pm ROCK
11.962 118.73 1.868 2/20/2010 2:27pm ROCK
11.975 119.01 1.867 2/20/2010 4:25pm ROCK
11.997 117.92 1.91 2/20/2010 2:34pm ROCK

Those are with DR right? I got a 11.9 with DR first time using them today. Borrowed Dodgers63 DR so couldnt get the hang of it. But with street tires got 12.0-12.1@118-119 all day. Going by the trap speeds the hp are equal.

Yes sir. I was using DR's... I may be wrong but I don't think you can go by the trap speed alone because that just means that you were spinning more than I without drags so your trap was higher...

Not much to drags, just a little heat in them first and then mash the go pedal. I do understand that it takes some time to get used to anything when it's new.

You need to get some drags.. You won't do much better without them.

You had some great times... Just wanted to post my **** as well.

We really need to get a tune only drag day going before they close the tracks.

Boy that would sure fire up this forum wouldn't it????

Can you hear the post already????

Good job and keep it up....

Going by trap speeds alone is not always the best way of comparing horsepower. To do it right would entail factoring in other factors, such as, how much wheel spin was in the 60' for a specific run as well. For example, if someone pulled a 1.6 60' and trapped 120 mph and someone else pulled a 2.1 60' and also trapped 120 mph, those two cars are likely not equal in power. Being on street tires generally helps trap speeds as you've seen today. It would've been nice to see some runs from RalieghC63 with street tires in good weather. And it would've been even nicer if RalieghC63 had ran side by side with you on the same track and same day today This would've provided the ultimate data in my opinion.

EDIT: RalieghC63 beat me to it.

Suprisely when I switched over to street tires right after the DR run the trap speed was about the same. Yeah we need to run at the same track same day. BTW you have some solid times.

When do you think you can go next and what track?

Not sure if this makes any diff but what do you weigh and do you have the the p30? Does that offer any weight reduction?

I'm about 210 lbs.

We are missing the real big picture hear! These are different people driving the car! They have different equipment! First off jon weighs 130# as he has stated Jim weighs more not sure how much but it's considerable at least 40#s possible more (hope he chimes in) plus jon has the p30 package which drops 20# in the mist important rotational mass so doing a bit of calcs I learned from this forum I belive that equals somewere in the neighborhood of one tenth off that bat going by the formula of 1# rotational mass = approximate 3# pysicsl mass? I'm I right?? Off the bat jon has a .10 advantage.. But with that said let's all just go out and be car guys all this one tenth b/s is getting old... Let's take a quote from the real Mercedes master Ahmed Aka blackbenz... Run your car not your mouth!!!!

Wo great minds think alike that is the weirdest thing ever your 210 wow woulve never guessed! So change my calcs!? C

Oh here we go with the lbs issue. I'm 140 but I had more than 1/2 tank of gas.

So Jim out weighs u by 70#s + your factory breaks are allot lighter in the rotational mass. Say on the low side = to 50#s physical mass brings u to aporoxiamatly 120# lighter and I do not no how much gas he had but say it was a1/4 your talking approx. 35 lbs extra in fuel you still are 85lbs lighter! I no you will come back with something else but... These numbers don't lie

My friend let's talk facts you had less then a 1/2 when I looked in your car!

At the end of the day we should all agree that these cars are fast tune only into the 11s!! You all should be happy!

This is getting good

I was at the track watching Jon (we all tried to help him) and I'm sure that with more practice his times will get better. Especially his 60'. Until he gets into 1.8x range, he will not see mid 11s.

Generally speaking, for every 100lbs you shed, you pickup ~.10 in the 1/4. Also keep in mind that a gallon of fuel weighs ~8 lbs.

He 60' 1.85 on his 11.93@118 pass, so it's going to take a lot more than a 1.8X to do it.

Congrats Jon.

You should be happy, just keep putting your time in and
your et's will drop.

6lb's per gallon. At 60F. The colder, the more weight.

Makes a big difference. I think our tank holds 18 gallons.

This is where I come in! My turn next.

17.4 to be exact.

Jon, did you only run 3 times the whole day? I was under the impression you guys can get at least 10 passes in private rental events If not, it'd be nice to see all of your time slips so we have more data to compare just like how Petro and RelighC63 posted all of their runs. I could've swore reading somewhere that you ran a 12.3 @ 115 on DR as well

We/he got many passes prob 15+

I would say, if you want to really tell what your car runs, eliminate the fastest run and the slowest run and then average the rest of your runs. I would say that would be a good real world outcome to how fast your car was that day. You can't really take your fastest time ever and say this is how fast my car is even though everyone does. The real world is what we live in and I would say that would be a fair indication of what your car does. I know everyone also talks about the altitude and everything else but the bottom line is that the weather is what it is and there is nothing you can do about it. Average all your times, eliminate the fastest and the slowest and let's see what everyone's time is, how does that sound?

I completely agree with this. However getting everyone to do this is going to be next to impossible