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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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C63 vs SLS

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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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This is cool. Still watching the vid, but thanks for posting.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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That C63 driver has some skill. He's hanging with a car with 100+ more HP, lighter weight, larger brakes, wider tires, etc.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Nice video but man that radio traffic inside the car was annoying. And that C63 was not hangin with that SLS...plus the SLS driver was pretty crappy, he missed just about every apex while the C63 driver was hitting them all and still getting pulled away from.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Nice video but man that radio traffic inside the car was annoying. And that C63 was not hangin with that SLS...plus the SLS driver was pretty crappy, he missed just about every apex while the C63 driver was hitting them all and still getting pulled away from.
It's the instructor talking in German, telling everyone what corner is coming up and what gear they should be in. Which explains the tight formation and the C63 being able to hang with a SLS. C63 was driven by an instructor, SLS by a student.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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It's the instructor talking in German, telling everyone what corner is coming up and what gear they should be in. Which explains the tight formation and the C63 being able to hang with a SLS. C63 was driven by an instructor, SLS by a student.
Thanks, Sascha - just goes to show you how much driver skill plays into the equation and how all these hp wars are really pointless.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Thanks, Sascha - just goes to show you how much driver skill plays into the equation and how all these hp wars are really pointless.
No doubt - especially on a track like the 'Ring, which has one corner after another. The more experienced driver in an inferior car will beat the more powerful car with an inexperienced driver every time. The better driver will just fill the other guys mirrors until he breaks his concentration and it's all over. That's just on the way up before the course changes to the fast downhill section. That's the part where you not only need skills, but also a big attachment between your legs . Some of those guys kind of grew up at the 'Ring and know it like the back of their hands. It takes quite some time to memorize 150+ turns.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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It's the instructor talking in German, telling everyone what corner is coming up and what gear they should be in. Which explains the tight formation and the C63 being able to hang with a SLS. C63 was driven by an instructor, SLS by a student.
Absolutely correct. That playground is about 45 minutes from our summer home.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Hello guys and thanks for calling me "instructor" ^^

i was the guy in the C-Class...Instructor was driving in the first car not in picture...

The difference between the C and the SLS is huge...if you put equal drivers iin both cars the C-Class of course has no chance at all

Theres a difference of 100hp but most important: the C-Class will understeer und do some nice tire squeeeching while the SLS can allready apply throttle and pull away.

The SLS is much more stable...at high speed "jumps" like the Schwedenkreuz where the car gets loose at 180km/h the C-Class has a very nervous rear axle while the SLS drives like a train on its track...

I replaced the standard suspension with a KW-Clubsport suspension and hope this will help...

I'll post some more video if i find the time...

You can watch more Nordschleife C-Class action at my youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/ClaudiusKarch?feature=mhum
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 03:24 AM
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Absolutely correct. That playground is about 45 minutes from our summer home.
What town? I live between Wittlich and Bernkastel which is close to the Ring.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 03:26 AM
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Hello guys and thanks for calling me "instructor" ^^

i was the guy in the C-Class...Instructor was driving in the first car not in picture...

The difference between the C and the SLS is huge...if you put equal drivers iin both cars the C-Class of course has no chance at all

Theres a difference of 100hp but most important: the C-Class will understeer und do some nice tire squeeeching while the SLS can allready apply throttle and pull away.

The SLS is much more stable...at high speed "jumps" like the Schwedenkreuz where the car gets loose at 180km/h the C-Class has a very nervous rear axle while the SLS drives like a train on its track...

I replaced the standard suspension with a KW-Clubsport suspension and hope this will help...

I'll post some more video if i find the time...

You can watch more Nordschleife C-Class action at my youtube channel

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How often do you go to the Ring?
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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about 2-3 times per year.

this year i will start with a Honda Civic race car at the "RCN Rundstrecken Challenge Nordschleife" about 8 times...
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 05:04 AM
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I like how you take your C63 to the limit at the Ring, you would make a great candidate for that C63 vs M3 thing in Texas......
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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That certainly looked like a lot of fun!
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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This is hands down one of the best driving Ive seen on the Nurburgring.
Great battle between a 996 GT2 vs Catherham R500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxwRgSZiKTk&feature=fvw

This one is a very heated battle between a Dodge viper GT3 VS Porsche 997 GT3 on the "Ring". Amazing driving from both drivers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQytPHXBYXY

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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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WOW....that Viper and 997 is great!!!!
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Wow, thats crazy. I have been playing gran turismo 5 and that uphill followed by the corner always gets me in my c63!
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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Please dont forget to share your perspective regarding the clubsports and if you dont mind sharing your settings once you're dialed in.
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
This is hands down one of the best driving Ive seen on the Nurburgring.
Great battle between a 996 GT2 vs Catherham R500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxwRgSZiKTk&feature=fvw

This one is a very heated battle between a Dodge viper GT3 VS Porsche 997 GT3 on the "Ring". Amazing driving from both drivers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQytPHXBYXY
Nice videos! Good find
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:06 AM
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Nice videos! Good find

+1! the gt3 and viper race is unreal!
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Nice videos! Good find
+2...had me on the edge of my seat!
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Nothing like the sound of a straight cut gearbox!! I'm surprised that porsche had the legs to keep up with the viper and pass him at the end of the back straight
Some very nice driving indeed - especially the other slower drivers. It can be pretty frantic when your on track with cars that much faster than you - gotta use those mirrors!!!!
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My favorite Nordschleife video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Q4MBAjL7Q
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My favorite Nordschleife video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Q4MBAjL7Q
That was an 8:19?? WOW - I can't imagine the BS hustling around there under 8 seconds ...His commentary MADE that video...


This is by far my favorite video there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLudkJwx6A
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That was an 8:19?? WOW - I can't imagine the BS hustling around there under 8 seconds ...His commentary MADE that video...


This is by far my favorite video there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLudkJwx6A
Luke, that was a qualifying lap for the 24h race. It includes the GP circuit plus the Nordschleife. It takes a Black Series a little less for JUST the Nordschleife without the GP circuit.

Sideways Stefan, nice! He refuses to wear a helmet
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