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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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...how are they lowering your current compression ratio???
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Has anyone seen the A/F ratio on that dyno run?
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Phin
...how are they lowering your current compression ratio???
Unknown it seems lol
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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I have not broken any records in a long time, Ahmad is still the man in that department and a couple C63 have bested my 63 NA times. I'm not going to even talk records until it happens, we all know that big HP on a dyno doesn't mean squat if you can't get it down the track. I have no idea what I'm getting into, it going to be like a new car, gobs more torque and HP, an entire new wheel and tire set up for the strip and a new suspension package for the strip. I'm going to have to learn how to drive it all over again so as much as I would love to roll it off the trailer and lay down a low 10 second pass the reality is my first several passes are most likely going to be slower than times I was running a year ago. If and when any records get broken I'll let you know, til then there are a handful of guys currently outgunning me...as I mentioned before, the nitrous has been removed from my car, too much risk until I get the new system worked out and/or find the breaking point of this trans and rear-end.
Can you run a smaller than 18" wheel in the back that will clear the brakes....was just reading how alot of the E55 guys are running 16's and 17's to get a fatter tire on for launches
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by callmiro
Can you run a smaller than 18" wheel in the back that will clear the brakes....was just reading how alot of the E55 guys are running 16's and 17's to get a fatter tire on for launches
The two quickest/fastest C63s on "The List" are running 17" rears.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by superlubricity
The two quickest/fastest C63s on "The List" are running 17" rears.

Thanks Super!

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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by callmiro
Can you run a smaller than 18" wheel in the back that will clear the brakes....was just reading how alot of the E55 guys are running 16's and 17's to get a fatter tire on for launches
I run a set of custom offset 17 inch Forgelines, launches are fine, I'm laying down fairly consistant 1.55 60's. The issue is down track I have some issue which I think the new suspension is going take care of.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I run a set of custom offset 17 inch Forgelines, launches are fine, I'm laying down fairly consistant 1.55 60's. The issue is down track I have some issue which I think the new suspension is going take care of.
1.55s if I could lay that I'd be in the 9s or extreme low 10s Tune header!
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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wow nuts... aren't the 6.2l high compression motors? How will these kits do longterm?


The Kleemann's do real nice on the C55 which is the 5.4 litre. I can't imagine it would be much different on the C63?
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dodger63
1.55s if I could lay that I'd be in the 9s or extreme low 10s Tune header!
Come on man....I thought you were gonna give me driving lessons? That's what you posted about a month ago.

...and a 1.55 ain't gonna make your "header and tune only" car do extreme low 10's and you should have soap put in your mouth for even mentioning 9s.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Come on man....I thought you were gonna give me driving lessons? That's what you posted about a month ago.

...and a 1.55 ain't gonna make your "header and tune only" car do extreme low 10's and you should have soap put in your mouth for even mentioning 9s.
Ill teach you how to drive brother! Good luck out there!
Post some slips big guy!
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Has anyone seen the A/F ratio on that dyno run?
Good question!! I know the N/A M156 should be in the mid 13's.
Im gonna take a stab at it and say it would be between mid 11's-12 at full throttle.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I run a set of custom offset 17 inch Forgelines, launches are fine, I'm laying down fairly consistant 1.55 60's. The issue is down track I have some issue which I think the new suspension is going take care of.
do you have any time slips showing your 60 foot that low?
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were you running nos when you got the 1.55?
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 01:17 AM
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do you have any time slips showing your 60 foot that low?
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were you running nos when you got the 1.55?
Hehehe..
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 04:09 AM
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It should be fairly easy to make the overseas dyno figures relevant

All we need to know is what a stock c63 puts out on that brand of dyno

Unless the people making the supercharger have no idea that dynos are all about the area under the curve then they should have a stock c63 run to compare it to

Then the armchair dyno guys can look at the relative differences between the curves and see how a stock c63 run on that brand compares to dynojet

This is easier than waiting for a kit to be fitted in the USA and tested on a dynojet

ESS have a dynojet so it will be interesting to see what each puts out on a dynojet

I mist be the only person here that thinks that drag times Are the least relevant information because it is too hard to ensure consistency between drivers, grip and ambient temperature etc etc

What we really need are rear wheel curves on a dynojet and the DRF files to let consumers compare in the one graph

All cars log air fuels, all cars compared SAE, boost logged and graphed and the other things kept constant I have forgotten about or dont know about

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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 05:31 AM
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Great post.. Thanks for your input!

Originally Posted by sorrentoguy
It should be fairly easy to make the overseas dyno figures relevant

All we need to know is what a stock c63 puts out on that brand of dyno

Unless the people making the supercharger have no idea that dynos are all about the area under the curve then they should have a stock c63 run to compare it to

Then the armchair dyno guys can look at the relative differences between the curves and see how a stock c63 run on that brand compares to dynojet

This is easier than waiting for a kit to be fitted in the USA and tested on a dynojet

ESS have a dynojet so it will be interesting to see what each puts out on a dynojet

I mist be the only person here that thinks that drag times Are the least relevant information because it is too hard to ensure consistency between drivers, grip and ambient temperature etc etc

What we really need are rear wheel curves on a dynojet and the DRF files to let consumers compare in the one graph

All cars log air fuels, all cars compared SAE, boost logged and graphed and the other things kept constant I have forgotten about or dont know about
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Hi,

Here is the dyno figures of the C63 before the supercharger istallation.

On this dyno run the car has Kleemann ECU upgrade, Kleemann Large Throttle kit and MBH longtube headers.

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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Hehehe..
Hey John Force, why do you act like you're the only guy on this board that can drive or launch a car? I've been taking cars to the drag strip nearly 25 years(since I was 16), I've got more track experience in more types of vehichles than you do, I can promise you that, so please quit talking to me like I'm a newb. I'm done addressing you and your snide little comments, you're not worth another suspension or ban.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sorrentoguy
It should be fairly easy to make the overseas dyno figures relevant

All we need to know is what a stock c63 puts out on that brand of dyno

Unless the people making the supercharger have no idea that dynos are all about the area under the curve then they should have a stock c63 run to compare it to

Then the armchair dyno guys can look at the relative differences between the curves and see how a stock c63 run on that brand compares to dynojet

This is easier than waiting for a kit to be fitted in the USA and tested on a dynojet

ESS have a dynojet so it will be interesting to see what each puts out on a dynojet

I mist be the only person here that thinks that drag times Are the least relevant information because it is too hard to ensure consistency between drivers, grip and ambient temperature etc etc

What we really need are rear wheel curves on a dynojet and the DRF files to let consumers compare in the one graph

All cars log air fuels, all cars compared SAE, boost logged and graphed and the other things kept constant I have forgotten about or dont know about
I will be posting up dyno numbers when mine is complete, very accurate dyno numbers showing stock, my various states of tune in between and then with the SC. All will be from the same dynojet dyno in the evosport shop, I also have similar numbers from a local shops dynojet that I use just to keep everyone honest. This should be a fairly accuarate group of dyno sheets for comparison, same dyno, same operators and similar conditions since all my mods take place at evosport as "winter projects" that are buttoned up in Feb even the air should be similar in early March when my car is slated to be completed.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Hey John Force, why do you act like you're the only guy on this board that can drive or launch a car? I've been taking cars to the drag strip nearly 25 years(since I was 16), I've got more track experience in more types of vehichles than you do, I can promise you that, so please quit talking to me like I'm a newb. I'm done addressing you and your snide little comments, you're not worth another suspension or ban.
Whoa cowboy. Can't we all just get along? A little chuckle shouldn't bring out this much rage. Sometimes an lol means that we're laughing with you, not at you. This is constructive criticism, please don't rape me with your words.
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