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Old 02-22-2011, 12:00 AM
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+110wHp with Gintani Headers, Exhaust & Tune

I finally dynoed my car today after installing Gintani headers. All of the same conditions were followed. CA91 pump gas from Chevron, same tires, etc. Dynodynamics Dyno. The gains to the wheel, peak to peak were +110wHp & +83.7wTq, when comparing the baseline with no mods to my current setup.
Current setup: Gintani Headers with Full Gintani catless exhaust system, OE Tuning Stage2 ECU tune, AFE dry filters with charcoal filters removed.
+30wHp was seen over my last results (stock headers, Gintani Exhaust & Tune).

I also had the chance to film the car running on the street, out-of-car viewing the exhaust tips while driving.

http://www.youtube.com/user/OEtuning...12/GjsJ88Fgeoc

Dynojet numbers to come.
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Congrats, Jeremy! The power looks great, especially the torque. Very impressive for sure.

Can't wait to see how fast she is when you get to the track.

Btw, do you have the LSD in? Just curious cause I was wondering if both wheels were spinning when you broke the tires loose in the vid. That was cool, btw.

Also, I like the idea of using the AFE dry filters. If they work alright for you, I think I may give them a try next go around.
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Sick gains Jeremy!!!! The cars pulls like a monster, the bottom end torque on this thing is just insane!!
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Nice numbers! Look forward to seeyin how much the car improves at the track!
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Wow, those results are phenomenal!

Any pricing yet for the exhaust and header components?
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any chance you will just be selling the midpipe with resonators ?
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Congrats does are some sick numbers..
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Solid numbers.... congrats Jeremy I can't wait to see this beast at Famoso next time out
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I'm sorry, I am confused.

So basically you got 130+ hp from full exhaust and tune? On a normally aspirated engine?

To get that rear wheel hp number the car would be making around 590 HP at the crank right?

Wow.

Isn't that a lot from exhaust and a tune on a normally aspirated engine?

What does Dads C63 make?
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I'm sorry, I am confused.

So basically you got 130+ hp from full exhaust and tune? On a normally aspirated engine?

To get that rear wheel hp number the car would be making around 590 HP at the crank right?

Wow.

Isn't that a lot from exhaust and a tune on a normally aspirated engine?

What does Dads C63 make?

what ever number it makes to the wheel divide that by .82 (18% drive train loss) and you get you fly wheel HP.
for ex 470/.82=573 but dont forget this is a DD dyno so it reads lower.

its not alot of power, from a tune and header only car you get 95rw-100rw this is with the full exhaust so the numbers look rite

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Originally Posted by mthis
what ever number it makes to the wheel divide that by .82 (18% drive train loss) and you get you fly wheel HP.
for ex 470/.82=573 but dont forget this is a DD dyno so it reads lower.
Depends on the DD. Some (most?) read lower than DJ, but some DDs read roughly the same, or even higher. What's important to see are the deltas between the various levels, for relative comparison; this does a good job of showing them all together, IMHO.

its not alot of power, from a tune and header only car you get 95rw-100rw this is with the full exhaust so the numbers look rite
Agreed that the numbers look right, for a full header-back exhaust system with a matched tune.
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Depends on the DD. Some (most?) read lower than DJ, but some DDs read roughly the same, or even higher. What's important to see are the deltas between the various levels, for relative comparison; this does a good job of showing them all together, IMHO.



Agreed that the numbers look right, for a full header-back exhaust system with a matched tune.
I was just going by his stock numbers when saying it's reading low My car stock on DJ with k&n's dyno'd 385rw sae that's almost 15rw higher then his filter graph.
From my math his car on a DJ should pump up around 485-490rw sae

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Very Very impressive! I cant wait to check it out in person!
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Originally Posted by mthis
I was just going by his stock numbers when saying it's reading low My car stock on DJ with k&n's dyno'd 385rw sae that's almost 15rw higher then his filter graph.
From my math his car on a DJ should pump up around 485-490rw sae
IMHO, you can't really compare your cars results thousands of miles away, different dyno types, locations, operators, etc... and then attempt to conclude what his car would achieve on a DJ. The octane difference alone (93 for you, 91 for him) could account for a percent or two variation between your respective results. A percent or two at 500 whp is 5-10 whp.

The good news is, the OP mentioned "dynojet results coming soon" - so we won't need to guess for long.
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
IMHO, you can't really compare your cars results thousands of miles away, different dyno types, locations, operators, etc... and then attempt to conclude what his car would achieve on a DJ. The octane difference alone (93 for you, 91 for him) could account for a percent or two variation between your respective results. A percent or two at 500 whp is 5-10 whp.

The good news is, the OP mentioned "dynojet results coming soon" - so we won't need to guess for long.
You are rite there are alot that come into play but im standing behind the 485-490 on DJ SAE.
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