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Old 05-30-2011, 06:45 PM
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Question about the P31 brakes

As i've mentioned (a few times...) i've ordered a c with the p31. I read however that the brakes don't really last on gravel nearly as well as steel discs. has anyone suffered from this fact? would appreciate input from members with p31 eho have driven on gravel roads. of course any other input is welcome as well

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Please clarify how you would relate brake wear to road surface in this situation. Are you talking about ESP constantly working the brakes?
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The P31 brakes are "component" not "composite" (or however they describe them) which has confused a few. They have two-piece front rotors, but the rotor material (excluding the hub hat) is the same as far as I know, and should wear the same...or maye even infintessimally longer because supposedly the two-piece set-up dissipates heat better. I think.
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Originally Posted by goatfarmer1970
The P31 brakes are "component" not "composite" (or however they describe them) which has confused a few. They have two-piece front rotors, but the rotor material (excluding the hub hat) is the same as far as I know, and should wear the same...or maye even infintessimally longer because supposedly the two-piece set-up dissipates heat better. I think.
The p31 brakes LOOK to be a different material as the rotor looks darker than the standard, and there are no two pieces btw.
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The component brake design on a P31 is to transfer less heat to the. pads, calipers, slave cylinders and hence your brake fluid, thereby allowing more braking before the fluid starts to boil and becomes useless. Not really a worry on the street, but several track test of a base C63 ended up with the brake warning light coming on after several laps as the ESP (if left on) would keep kicking in and overheating the brakes prematurely.
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Ok. i just talked to a couple of (reliable) people, one an employee at mercedds here in finland, and another friend. both said it could cause trouble. it worries me since i will ne driving on gravel roads quite a bit, not to mention the winter when they'll start spraying the sidewalks witj it and it spreads on the roads...
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AFAIK, there are two pieces to the front rotors on all P31 and many/most P30 cars, but he rear rotors are only a one-piece design.
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Is there a way to know if a vehicle has LSD by just looking at brakes?
HUH?

Where did you get that from???
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A guy in an E55 told me that I didn't have LSD, lol...although my sticker says otherwise...
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Plus, I rarely slip. Gonna have to do a burnout this Sunday and see the mark or marks I leave.
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Originally Posted by goatfarmer1970
The P31 brakes are "component" not "composite" (or however they describe them) which has confused a few. They have two-piece front rotors, but the rotor material (excluding the hub hat) is the same as far as I know, and should wear the same...or maye even infintessimally longer because supposedly the two-piece set-up dissipates heat better. I think.
AMG describes the front brake rotors as "compound front rotors" http://www.mercedes-amg.com/?lang=usa#/c63-information

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The p31 brakes LOOK to be a different material as the rotor looks darker than the standard, and there are no two pieces btw.
The front rotors are two piece but they are cast together and not bolted together. The discs are cast iron and the hats are aluminum. Here is a description from Brembo: http://www.brembo.com/US/Cars/Dual-Cast/
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The one thing about Brembo, is that they always move forward never backwards. These brakes are better then the ones, they replaced. I believe that your worrying over nothing.
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Thank you for all your answers. At least i now know i don't have to cancel my overpriced performance package :P
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P31 is a good investment. Yes, I am biased.
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Maybe in the states but i'm hesitant about paying 16,5k USD for it.

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