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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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WEISTEC C63 AMG vs GINTANI E92 M3 750HP??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7141SmJPuF8 Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7svwFjObY Part 2


Just saw this on youtube thought I'd share. c63 sounds beastly .
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Holy s@#*. Very dark but I assume the camera car is the C63 Weistec. In which case he is absolutely walking a Gintani tuned M3.

I'd love to get more details on this car.

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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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I think that's Eugene's M3 and his friend's C63.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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that AMG pulls hard . it would be hard to convince me that the M3 has 750hp when the AMG walks away like that
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ
that AMG pulls hard . it would be hard to convince me that the M3 has 750hp when the AMG walks away like that

also the M3 was built by gintani.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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I can't imagine a 750HP built M3 getting walked like that...if it's true, then what the hell is what Weistec C63 putting down?!
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Im a skeptic, kinda hard to believe a 750HP M3 will get walked like that.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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What's the Tq to wheels difts from the cars?
The c63 sound like it has LT's and full exhaust so that this is making anywhere from 530-570rwtq
What's the M3 making? (my guess like 450rwtq)
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Up to 100mph it's all TQ doing the work then HP comes in to play. What u guys think?
I raced my friends stock M5 vs my friends stock c63 and another stOck m5 as well and the c63 pulled to 80 about 2 cars then the m5's started pulling on the c.
Plus the c63 had good 200lbs more then the m5's.
All from a dig no wheel spin in non of the cars.

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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Up to 100mph it's all TQ doing the work then HP comes in to play. What u guys think?
I raced my friends stock M5 vs my friends stock c63 and another stOck m5 as well and the c63 pulled to 80 about 2 cars then the m5's started pulling on the c.
Plus the c63 had good 200lbs more then the m5's.
All from a dig no wheel spin in non of the cars.


I'm not 100%, But my guess is that the c63 has more tq. I've raced an m5 with an exhaust. My car bone stock and the initial hit I would be ahead by 1 1/2 to 2 cars then he would start pulling around 125 all the way to 155.

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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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I have to agree with you guys.... it'd be hard to believe that a 600 hp car would destroy a lighter 750 hp car that easily unless the 750 hp car is not running right (healthy) or the 600 hp car is producing a lot more than claims or the 750 hp car is producing a lot less than it claims
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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Keep in mind the numbers from Gintani are on their Dyno and the numbers on Weistec are from their dyno so in all fairness both cars need to be put on the same dyno on the same day.

With that said, the C63 engine produces a lot more torque from the factory than the M3. Not sure the TQ figures on the M3 but the C63 with the Weistec S/C according to them it lays down 672 Horsepower, 662 ft-lb of Torque.
FYI- We have been selected to be the East Coast Installer/Distributor for Weistec's 63 Supercharger Kits. Feel free to PM me for pricing on parts and installation.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Not for nothing the c63 revs thru the gear like it has more then 600hp.
More like 700hp
600rw c63 is 730bhp by 18% drive train loss
If that car has the MBH headers then it should be a 600rw car.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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What about the CLS63 that made 601rw on Dyno dynamic with MBH headers and the S/C.
What u thoughts on that.
I could be wrong but I think that c63 in the video has the same headers the CLS has.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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See its still hard to say because I don't know which dyno Weistec uses to tune/measure their cars. Theoretically this engine should make the same amount of power (give or take) regardless of the car its installed in to the crank shaft on the same dyno. Final RWHP obviously depends on wheels/tires length/weight of driveshafts and axles.

I would like to see said M3 and said C63 in the first thread both strapped down on the same dyno on the same day. This will tell you why the C63 put the M3 on his leash and took him for a walk.

It will tell you where the M3 makes its HP and TQ and how much and the same with the C63. If they started at say 3000 rpms and the C63 makes more TQ than the M3 which is likely the case than of course its going walk the M3 from the start and the M3 may have more HP but it might not be enough to recover and catch up to the C63.

With that all said, 15k plus install for the power your getting is not too shabby considering we have been doing tons of Kleemann superchargers for the NA 55 AMG cars and they used to sell for the same price till the last couple year its been dropped to 9k.
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Where's Eugene at? Maybe he can give more details on the C....which LTs/exhaust
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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My buds Porsche killed one too, 700+ Gintani M3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NWvEmQLAA
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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My buds Porsche killed one too, 700+ Gintani M3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NWvEmQLAA
Brian's (E90 M3) car is a beast but those GT2's aint no joke, what are the mods on the Porsche?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Wow just wow. amazing.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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sorry guys! since i'm the driver I guess I can let you guys in a what happened.

this C63 has a weistec stage 1 supercharger with LT headers and exhaust.

I was home about to go to bed my friend calls me up to come for a friendly run. I totally forgot i loosen up my belt for a track event last sunday.

did think it would cause such an effect as the course we are heading to is quite small and lots of turns.

anyways my car was only making about 9psi of boost when it was suppose to make 15 psi

I left a message for the driver. when I get my new pulley set up from Gintani with 30% more grip. we will do another run

note for people who wants the weistec charger: the guy did tell me that he sometimes has slip issues as well and he got it fixed in Taiwan. Maybe Weistec has since made something different to improve it
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Which headers and exhaust eugene
he told me its a japanese brand. but thats all i know
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