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Old 08-18-2011, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
Now you can see why I was so harsh on the Hanook's!


I dont know who Hanook pays off for such great reviews but it must cost a bundle.

I bet Car and Driver got a fat check from Hankook!!
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So far I am beyond impressed with the Michelin's, really worth the extra dough.
As far as looks go, These tires are MEATY!! They look huge for 265's, very wide. Hankook's look flimsy in comparison.
The car is parked at my work but will take some pics tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by _AMG_
So far I am beyond impressed with the Michelin's, really worth the extra dough.
As far as looks go, These tires are MEATY!! They look huge for 265's, very wide. Hankook's look flimsy in comparison.
The car is parked at my work but will take some pics tomorrow.
yeah. i'm running hankooks v12 265s in the rear and I measured the OE p zeros wich were 255. the 255 pzeros were 3mm wider than the 265 v12 mounted on the same rim.

I like the fact that the v12 have soft sidewalls because the roads are really bad here so you get a lot more comfort than the pzeros.

Can you comment on the ride comfort ( not track but rough street) of the hankooks vs PSS.

BTW I do think that with the warranty it's probably cheaper or no more expensive to run PSS than the hankooks.
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Originally Posted by c63canada
yeah. i'm running hankooks v12 265s in the rear and I measured the OE p zeros wich were 255. the 255 pzeros were 3mm wider than the 265 v12 mounted on the same rim.

I like the fact that the v12 have soft sidewalls because the roads are really bad here so you get a lot more comfort than the pzeros.

Can you comment on the ride comfort ( not track but rough street) of the hankooks vs PSS.

BTW I do think that with the warranty it's probably cheaper or no more expensive to run PSS than the hankooks.
Exactly!!! I measured the Stock Pzeros and 265 Hankooks with a digital caliper and got the exact same results.

So far the ride on the PSS have been VERY smooth. The Hankooks had a good ride too too but the Michelins are silky smooth.
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so they run wider than the hankooks?

since you are lowered on H & R, can you pick some of your friends up and see if you still dont rub even with wider tires
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Originally Posted by dleung22
so they run wider than the hankooks?

since you are lowered on H & R, can you pick some of your friends up and see if you still dont rub even with wider tires
They are alot beefier then Hankooks and look alot wider.
So far I had one person in the rear and no rubbing at all, I would definitley rub with 275's.
If your lowered on H&R's a 235-265 PSS combo is the perfect choice IMO, especially if your running agressive offsets.
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I had given a thought about trying Hankooks, but after these posts I think I will stay with my Michelin Pilot A/S Plus.

One question though, being that I live in Georgia and we get "light" winters about 2-3 months tops of cold weather would it be a good choice to try the Michelin PSS?
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Originally Posted by bigben320e
I had given a thought about trying Hankooks, but after these posts I think I will stay with my Michelin Pilot A/S Plus.

One question though, being that I live in Georgia and we get "light" winters about 2-3 months tops of cold weather would it be a good choice to try the Michelin PSS?
Michellin PSS's are summer tires and would not be the best choice to run in near freezing temps.
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While we are talking about that, I am ordering the PSS at the moment after all the great reviews of them. I am in KY with mild winters as well. What are peoples' recommendations for winter tires? Good all-seasons or go all the way to a snow tire?

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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Michellin PSS's are summer tires and would not be the best choice to run in near freezing temps.
Just as I thought, A/S Plus is where I will stay. I don't want to bother with changing to winter tires when we usually just get 1-2 snowfalls a year, and even they are mild.

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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Exactly!!! I measured the Stock Pzeros and 265 Hankooks with a digital caliper and got the exact same results.

So far the ride on the PSS have been VERY smooth. The Hankooks had a good ride too too but the Michelins are silky smooth.
No way! I tough I was the only person car crazy enough to measure the tires with a caliper Mine wasn't digital but still. When I saw the 265 mounted i was quite suprised to see that the sidewalls were barely wider than the rim. the 255 p zeros looked fatter just by looking at them.

The hankook are less $$$ but you also get less rubber.

Looking forward to putting new PSS on next spring.

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I just put Hankook Evo 12 on the rear 2 weeks ago 265/35/18...the ride is a lot smoother and quieter than Pzero's for sure....as to thickness: these look like they have a taller side wall which doesn't give the wheel a nice low profile look as did the Pzeros. But they do dampen the ride.

However, yes, the Michelins are probably the best known quality.

I have just considered that I go through tires every 4000 miles with a track here and there and aggressive street driving so I didn't want to spend $600 on 2 tires....
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Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
I just put Hankook Evo 12 on the rear 2 weeks ago 265/35/18...the ride is a lot smoother and quieter than Pzero's for sure....as to thickness: these look like they have a taller side wall which doesn't give the wheel a nice low profile look as did the Pzeros. But they do dampen the ride.

However, yes, the Michelins are probably the best known quality.

I have just considered that I go through tires every 4000 miles with a track here and there and aggressive street driving so I didn't want to spend $600 on 2 tires....
I hear ya. I think the same way and have the evo v12.

But next time I think I'm gonna try the PSS.

they maybe around 100$ more per tire but don't forget that compared to what you're paying either in depreciation or monthly paiments the price difference for the tires isn't all that big.

my c63 will probably cost me around 30 to 35 k $ in depreciation over 4 years if not more.

so why not pay a few $$$ more for tires that let me extract more performance from a car that I bought for it's performance in the first place...
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Side by side comparison between Hankooks EVO V12 and Michelin PSS.

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I liked the ride quality of PS2, how is PSS and RE11 compared to PS2, debating between PSS or RE11
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Originally Posted by blindfold
I liked the ride quality of PS2, how is PSS and RE11 compared to PS2, debating between PSS or RE11
Ride quality on the PSS is great. I dont know how much better the RE-11's are in terms of performance, but I have been very happy with the Michelins so far.
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Ride quality on the PSS is great. I dont know how much better the RE-11's are in terms of performance, but I have been very happy with the Michelins so far.
thank you sir
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Originally Posted by blindfold
thank you sir
No problem!
IMO Both the Michelin's and RE-11's are phenomenal tires. Cant go wrong with both.
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Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
I just put Hankook Evo 12 on the rear 2 weeks ago 265/35/18...the ride is a lot smoother and quieter than Pzero's for sure....as to thickness: these look like they have a taller side wall which doesn't give the wheel a nice low profile look as did the Pzeros. But they do dampen the ride.

However, yes, the Michelins are probably the best known quality.

I have just considered that I go through tires every 4000 miles with a track here and there and aggressive street driving so I didn't want to spend $600 on 2 tires....
Interesting. I had a different experience when I replaced my rear P0's with Hankook Evo 12's. I also installed the 265's. I found them to be a harder feeling tire, so the ride was not as smooth. The tires just felt too blocky. I honestly hated them.

As soon as I replaced them with P0's I was much more happy.

But, the price is right, that's for sure.

I'm really looking forward to trying the Michelin PSS's.
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In the PSS can 275/35/18 245/40/18 is their anything wrong with this setup for stock height and oem wheels any rubbing issues?
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Originally Posted by 63-AMG
In the PSS can 275/35/18 245/40/18 is their anything wrong with this setup for stock height and oem wheels any rubbing issues?
I highly doubt you will see any rubbing issues.
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Originally Posted by 63-AMG
In the PSS can 275/35/18 245/40/18 is their anything wrong with this setup for stock height and oem wheels any rubbing issues?
the rears will look really fat though
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I'm on my second set of PS A/S rears. Driving easy, I only got 10k miles on the rears....

Might try the SS next time.
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Really need to order 4 asap any suggestions should i go ahead with 275/35 245/40/18
or stay safe and go with 265/35 235/40/18? please help :P
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Originally Posted by 63-AMG
Really need to order 4 asap any suggestions should i go ahead with 275/35 245/40/18
or stay safe and go with 265/35 235/40/18? please help :P
You should be good with both sizes.
If your planning on lowering the car its better to go with 235-265.


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