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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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i got the dws cuz of the supposed 50k warranty and expected to get some grreat tread life out of them and the performance numbers were pretty close to the dw anyway, but they didnt even last 10k!
I would bet because an all season on this car would get eaten by the power as they would be spinning all of the time. You know what they say... all season tires are really no season tires as they are a compromise on everything.
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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I would bet because an all season on this car would get eaten by the power as they would be spinning all of the time. You know what they say... all season tires are really no season tires as they are a compromise on everything.
that is a good point i never really thought of that i guess, on the other hand i did lay a few patches of rubber down over the summer so im sure that contributed as well
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Ended up going with some 275/35/18 Conti Extreme Contact DW tires,

tirerack couldnt give me any warranty on dws's so they gave me 20% of any Conti Tires, which made the DW's as cheap as the Hanooks!
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Glad I stumbled on this thread and Im glad its in a forum where there is traffic... hopefully I can some perspective.

My dillemma is this:

My HREs on my CLS63 2012 are ready and are 20x9 and 20x11- I have a pretty aggressive offset and will be lowering the car. I hear that PSS's run very tall and I could rub versus the likes of an asian tire like Nitto or Hankook that run rounder sidewalls.

What are your thoughts on ordering either PS2's or Hankooks as I dont think the PSS's come in 305x25 (I need 305x25 and 255x30). Will I rub on PS2's? and if so what other tire outside of Kooks would you support? Toyo T1R's???

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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Glad I stumbled on this thread and Im glad its in a forum where there is traffic... hopefully I can some perspective.

My dillemma is this:

My HREs on my CLS63 2012 are ready and are 20x9 and 20x11- I have a pretty aggressive offset and will be lowering the car. I hear that PSS's run very tall and I could rub versus the likes of an asian tire like Nitto or Hankook that run rounder sidewalls.

What are your thoughts on ordering either PS2's or Hankooks as I dont think the PSS's come in 305x25 (I need 305x25 and 255x30). Will I rub on PS2's? and if so what other tire outside of Kooks would you support? Toyo T1R's???
The PS2's run as wide as the PSS. Same goes with tires like Continental Sport Contacts and DW's.
T1R's dont run wide at all, neither do the Hankooks. I highly doubt your going to rub with T1R's or EVO V12's.

I'm running aggressive offsets on my car and on Michelin PSS tires and the gap between the tire and fender is VERY close when the suspension is compressed.

Some pics....
I know its not on a CLS63 but gives you a good idea of what the wide tire, aggressive offset, drop setup will look like.












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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 03:57 AM
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how do you not rub all the time with that offset and ride height?!
i remember you are only on springs!
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dleung22
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how do you not rub all the time with that offset and ride height?!
i remember you are only on springs!
Yup, I'm just on H&R springs.
The only time I rub is when I hit a sudden dip on the freeway, other then that its normal.
I know it looks really close but under normal circumstances it doesn't rub.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Yup, I'm just on H&R springs.
The only time I rub is when I hit a sudden dip on the freeway, other then that its normal.
I know it looks really close but under normal circumstances it doesn't rub.

what about with passengers in your car?
i tried to look up tread widths of tire sizes through out different brands, and ya PSS do run quite wide..fatty tires like RE11

but nothing but positive reviews!!
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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@ AMG what is your tire setup on the PSS's?
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dleung22
what about with passengers in your car?
i tried to look up tread widths of tire sizes through out different brands, and ya PSS do run quite wide..fatty tires like RE11

but nothing but positive reviews!!
Nope doesn't rub with passengers in the car, its close though.
It rubs slightly on sudden dips. The main reason why they are rubbing (besides the tires being wide) is because of the aggressive offsets.
I'm sure I could've gotten away running 275 Michelin PSS while lowered on H&R springs if I had a more conservative wheel offset.

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@ AMG what is your tire setup on the PSS's?
235/35/19 front
265/30/19 rear

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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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hey _AMG_, what are your rim widths?
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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hey _AMG_, what are your rim widths?
correct me if im wrong but i beleive he is running 19x8 19x9
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:29 AM
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hey _AMG_, what are your rim widths?
19X8.5 front
19X9 rear
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:59 AM
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Can anyone comment on wet/rain traction with the Michelin PSS tires?

Very informative thread btw..
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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damn...i was hoping to run 19x10 +53ish with 265/30/19 michelin pss, but looks like i'll have to get a more conservative offset to fit those tires...
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by late_bloomer
Can anyone comment on wet/rain traction with the Michelin PSS tires?

Very informative thread btw..
Haven't tried them out in the rain as it really hasn't rained in L.A. for a while.
Its supposedly going to rain on Friday so ill give them a try then and let you know.

Originally Posted by noodleman
damn...i was hoping to run 19x10 +53ish with 265/30/19 michelin pss, but looks like i'll have to get a more conservative offset to fit those tires...
I'm no offset/wheel guru but it might be able to work with the +53 offset.
Ive seen a guy on 19x10 Klassen wheels with 275/30/19 Michelin PS2 tires, and lowered on KW V3 coils with no rubbing. (its close, but no rubbing)

Here is a link.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...rorev-c63.html
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Ok, so I decided to take the car up to the twisties while it was raining and the tires performed great!! Plenty of grip.

Didn't wanna drive too far up into the canyon since it was covered in heavy fog, and there were a few falling rocks. Overall, I'm very happy with the performance.
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Thats good to hear! I wish some PSS's were in my budget right now but I just cant justify that much for tires right now. One day...


I ended up getting my conti dw's on today, they are a fat looking tire, and then was shown that inside of my rims was rubbing against the sway bar on both sides in the rear. anyone else see this before?

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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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This is the kind of testimonial that makes you buy a tire.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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funny story i had a set of PS2s that came with my M3. after 8,000 miles they were finished so i decided to downgrade to ventis V12s. they were half the price. so i ran PS2s in the front and V12s in the back.

OMG powersliding was so much fun and so easy only problem when i was going 60+ on the freeway due to the tread patterns not matching i would skip and bounce. felt like i was going to crash. how could i possible do 100mph+ safely? i went back to american tire depot and had them install the PS2s. double the price, triple the performance

installed PSS a few thousand miles ago, they're even better just harder to get sideways. good high speed grip and good grip in the rain.

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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Saeedg48
funny story i had a set of PS2s that came with my M3. after 8,000 miles they were finished so i decided to downgrade to ventis V12s. they were half the price. so i ran PS2s in the front and V12s in the back.

OMG powersliding was so easy and so much fun and so easy only problem when i was going 60+ on the freeway due to the tread patterns not matching i would skip and bounce. felt like i was going to crash. how could i possible do 100mph+ safely? i went back to american tire depot and had them install the PS2s. double the price, triple the performance

installed PSS a few thousand miles ago, they're even better just harder to get sideways. good high speed grip and good grip in the rain.
Ohh man glad you made the switch, much better to pay the extra cash knowing your safe on the road.
I was actually thinking about mounting Nitto NT05's on the rear after my PSS get bald, but Im probably gonna stick with the same tires front and rear.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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I was looking at new tires and picked V12s to save a buck overall. Went on Tire Rack and read some reviews and reviewed some posts here and switched my order to PSS. Think I will be happy I did.

Thanks for threads like this.
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i have the hankook Evo V12s on my 19" forgrstar f14s. the sidewalls are very soft. Really cant wait to change them
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