xtyper

+1. Well said Carlos.

604 C63

Really? So Andy's posts where he spent all that time documenting his bona fide's are gone and the posts where Jaggy ComeLately trashes him get to stay?
I'm sorry, but that is a really really poor editing decision.

Remember this? And he's the one that put it in bold print:

He asked for it, he got it and now the response is taken down? MHP didn't start this thread, or the antagonistic attitude in it. Please put those posts back. Support the first amendment.

PetroC63

I agree.

Maybe ETG should change their name and start from scratch again? Next time they can you use a RENNtech dyno graph to promote their tune.

Sirex63

I dont know why everywhere/everytime Andy @ MHP goes there should be some sick predators waiting for him ! He's a good guy before being a good business man !

Why on earth would you delete his posts ? Above all the time he wasted on this thread proving that he's the best when ETG just claimed to be ! I wont call that wasting time, he made a point most of us already know since we deal with him and our cars have improved !

I'm not saying that as a customer nor a friend, i'm saying it as a human being watching facts with my own eyes.

I don't care who Jags is, he can do his business but why should he insult such a massive corporation , just to earn money ?

Just so much envy for Andy's job !

God bless you and your work Andy. That's enough to tell.

ecampbell

Andy may be a good guy but why play childish games by posting under multiple user names. I believe that was one of the reasons he was banned on the other forum (they even said they didn't want his money as a sponsor any longer)...why was he banned here and why does he keep getting banned?

Sirex63

i said it , envy

tbal

Oh man there's that same attitude and reason why I never used "Singh autos port" back few years ago. Infact I still have those emails... Customer service isn't really their strong point...
http://forums.5series.net/topic/9007...tomer-service/

Honestly stick with the tried tested and true. Eurocharged, Kleeman, OE

jacob502

Im watching this thread and I'm just wondering why none of you contacted Pascal from Techtec himself and see what he has to say

Its been around internet forums and Andy himself stated that he is in a partnership with Techtec.

I love MHP tunes and how their cars perform

Contact Pascal in Germany and you will be very surprised at what he has to say

http://www.techtec.com

Phone: +49(0)5665 / 800780

amdeutsch

Guys ....

They have been banned for numerous reason as has been posted in the open forum. Being a fanboy of one particular tuner has occurred numerous times in MBWorld history. If you are so quick to jump on one side of the debate please consider searching the forum regarding behavior and see if you ever jumped on the other side as well. It works both ways.

And before anyone, and you know there will be some, claim freedom of speech, etc., please reread the TOU you agreed to at signup.

MRAMG1

Well said my friend.

We ALL agreed to certain rules and regulations as a member. If you don't like them quit

dodger63

Are there any other tried tested and true tunes from forum members here??? You left a few out of this post??

callmiro

callmiro

This sounds like WAR....

litterally...this thing sounds like WAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xEJK...layer_embedded

tbal

I mentioned a few off the top of my head. If you want to add some more by all means....

emoving

WOW!!! Speechless!

Helms

oh my god, what a sound

604 C63

I'm no fanboy. I don't have any of his products and not thinking about getting them.
I've seen the results tho, and I haven't seen spit all from the other guy. ECU posted, was asked a couple of basic questions about affiliations, and then he called MHP out.

Like I said: he asked for it and he got it. Then the guy that gave it to him got punished for it. That seems wrong. But whatever. Like you said, its your football and if you want to take it home you're free to do so. At least now I know how you roll.

jacob502

Dude, I already contacted him. I know the facts. I'm sure you will see an end to this thread when you do as well.

Cheers

sales@ECU Tuning Group

Sorry about the delay. Last night I was at a Vincente Fernandez concert at the Gibson Amphitheatre on a date with Tequila. Also, I had to do some research on a company that we have never heard about.

Andy I know your reading this and I hope everyone understands there’s two sides to the coin.

Attached are pictures of Andy's comments that have been deleted which entail racial slurs and name calling. I want everybody to know, we have nothing to hide.

Back to the post..

This post started because my company, ETG, have no clue on who MHP are and what they do. I am aware of tuners like Brabus, MKB, and Carlsson to name a few. I also have respect for tuners like Renntech who have carried themselves in a respectful and dignified manner.

For those that have not realized, ECU Tuning Group was formerly Singh Autosport and it states that on our 'Company Profile' (website). The company outgrew it's name and ETG better reflects who we are and what we do. Our specialties include tuning and only tuning. ECU Tuning Group files are not from Techtec nor any other distributor. All files from ECU Tuning Group are created within our group. Clearly states from member, 'I am Jeff (post #7) that we are NOT part of Techtec or it's affiliates; information that was received from Eurotek, not Techtec.

All of our contact information, addresses, phone numbers, are on and always have been on the website. For all topics that have been brought up, all questions and concerns will be answered. If I fail to skip any questions, please remind me and I will be more than happy to address the issue.

Techtec

The owner of Techtec, Pascal, is a very close friend of mine. For those who don't know, I am originally from West London. We have been in this industry since 1991 growing up with some of the pioneers in this industry like Turbo Systems, BBR, Turbo Technics, and Andrew McKenzie of Connaught Design. For those unaware of the aforementioned companies, it is probably way before your time. We had our first feature in BMW Magazines for engine conversions that we used to carry out was published in 1993. Information can be found in our company news.





In regards to the 'stolen graphs', the dyno charts were given to me by my friend, Pascal. Now if you guys have an issues with the dyno sheets being posted, please get a letter from Pascal requesting I remove the information..or have him text me.

After we moved to America, Singh Autosport was established in Fremont in 2003. We have been reprogramming cars ever since. Speculation from other tuners claiming our files from Techtec is completely and utterly incorrect. Pascal is a very close friends with my brother and I.

In September 2006 an issue regarding 'money in speaker boxes'. The matter was resolved. No one was arrested or accused and convicted. If anybody still has an issue regarding the 'speaker boxes', they are more than welcome to come to California and walk in to any Police Station with me and we'll speak about the issue openly. $506,803 was recorded but in fact $2.7 million in total was the actual amount. We're quoting this because if someone else in the future brings this up, we do not want to be called “liars”. I will put down what was mentioned, $506,803, to anyone who could provide me with with information of conviction or an arrest here in the US regarding this matter. Attempts have been made by lesser tuners to slander the company name and “hurt” our business. In result, the company has grown since. All the best and renowned ships in North America carry our product. When the lesser tuners degrade our company, their only tactic is the mentioning of 'speaker boxes'.



Again, MHP claims they speak to Pascal on a daily basis. HE DOESN'T. Pascal doesn't even speak English. He won't even answer the phone. Has anybody on this forum spoken to Pascal since this thread has been posted? As a friend, I can say this, Pascal won't even pick up the phone because 99% of the time he's pissed off. Those who know him, know his characteristics. Great guy though. He won't even entertain any questions regarding this post..but there's no harm in trying, but you'll just **** him off even more LOL.

For those that have not seen Andy's posts, here they are:




Andy

Listen, we have been nothing but nice. We kindly asked you to join in and discuss the topic professionally. Now you come at us with Racial slurs? Nervous curry man in Europe?

Obviously, you really do NOT know who I am. If you want to act like a peasant of which you are, and stoop that low, fly to LA and you can find me any where. Us as a company, we don't hide. If you got insecurities as a man, come down and meet me. Anyone can call names behind a computer monitor, I am giving you the invitation and be a man. Clearly, we have never heard of you or your company and have nothing against you. We came to know about 'MHP' yesterday.

I've been called many names since 2006, you're just an addition to the list. I am trying to understand the frustration of your company not making money. We can drop this and let it go how it is or we can continue, we don't mind. Don't put my company name in your mouth and obviously I won't either.

Listen, the only way for this to be settled is for us to meet in Germany, at the Techtec Headquarter's. I am availabe at any given time.

Massive Corporation? Look, MHP operates from a house in a town where a house is probably worth 100k and according to forbes, one of the most desired cities to live in in North America...If you're such a massive corporation why isn't your address listed on your website. In fact, why doesn't your website work properly, nearly 3/4th's of the links do not work.


No longer accepted as a vendor

My company has never spoken bad about another 'tuner' just to make money. Now, some of your fan base (as history tells us it's you), have spoke about ETG and others negatively which led to you being banned on nearly every forum. Obviously, we are of importance to you and you're totally a waste of time to us. I have only heard of your company within the last 24 hours. and as of being in shape, trying get yourself your own personal nutritionist and own personal trainer. Now you talk about finances, but yet you speak about half a million dollars in speaker boxes is bad but your net worth is not even a third of that. It's cool though, some people can afford to keep sending money around the world in speaker boxes.

What you make in 3 years, I spend in 1 year with Clay Lacey Aviation. In fact, I probably have more money in the speaker boxes facing me right now in my living room than what you'll make in the next 4 years. If you want to discuss finances, have your middle man contact your file supplier.

To all those currently reading this post. This is not who we are or how we conduct business. Sometimes in life, you will have a little dog trying to bite at your ankles. Us as a company has always kept ourselves to ourselves. Never have we forced our product upon customers. It has always been run word of mouth. We have never lied about our product to people. Those who wish not to conduct business with our company, its OK. Those who have never heard of our company, its OK. Never will we get mad about people not hearing about our company. In this case, MHP is upset and dissapointed that we pay no attention or acknowledgment because we genuinely never heard of them. For those who feel that we have been living under a rock, need to understand we have been busy working and expanding our business.



The reason why you've been banned is because of you create false accounts slandering other businesses to promote yours. In the business sense, how professional is that. Also, stop taking pictures of headers with a gun. You look like a pansy doing that.



Thank you! I went ahead snapped a pic so everybody could take a look.

Couple years back, one of my customers brought to my attention that Arin of APR was bad mouthing my company, I then called Arin in the presence of the manager of BMW of Fremont and a top service advisor of MB of Fremont (Fremont Automall was less than a minute away from our office). At the office in front of both advisors from BMW and MB, as a form of entertainment, I phoned Arin and then introduced myself. I had then asked him “why would you bad mouth my company on the forum knowing you know nothing about my company?”. I then offered Arin and his family to fly out to CA, put them up in the Fairmont Hotel in San Jose, and offered him a rental car so he can see what kind of work we do. He denied posting such comments on the forum. I then read off the forum word for word exactly what he wrote. At that moment in time, Arin started stuttering and put me on hold for 15 minutes. I hung up, then called back to which a lady answered and asked her for her full company address so then I could go to APR to see what they do. As the lady started giving me the address, Arin started screaming at her “don't give him the address, don't give him the address” then hung up the phone. This whole instance brought laughter to not only myself, but everyone in the office. I am not a person to make threats over the phone or on the internet that I cannot back up. Once again, Arin decided to bring up speaker boxes, but just like every other 'tuner' one but has yet comment on our work. Not to sound arrogant, but our work is top notch and untouchable. We have never had a dissatisfied customer. A lot of forum members who have spoken bad about our company, is not about us being pompous or arrogant, is because they want a discount. Now, we don't discount our products because we believe we sell a good product. Now, I believe as a business owner, I should not be black mailed or threatened by others to receive a discount. Forum sponsors, I am sure you understand where I am coming from. Again, I repeat myself, I am fair. My prices are fair. If wanted to be a dick, I could tune any car for $50 (yes $50) because I do not pay 3rd party fees. So us as a company, sometimes we have to bite our tongue, but occasionally you will get someone who will try and rattle your cage. We have a notice in every single office stating 'We have the right to refuse service to anyone'. Those who say we are narcissitc, our company does a lot of charity work for the children in my old community in west London.

Clearly stated on your website, you can reprogram the ECU and TCU for the 63 amg's. Now, am I supposed to send you the ECU and the complete transmission? The TCU on that car cannot be programmed. It can be done on the 55, 600, and 65 amg's. How can you reprogram the TCU when your supplier, Techtec can't? No offense intended at all to Techtec.


People keep thinking MHP is a tuner, when in reality they are a reseller. He self confessed that he buys his tunes from a third party. The tuner that he purchases his files from purchase their files from Techtec. Those files are sold worldwide and are not exclusive to MHP. MHP should not take credit for someone else's work. People keep stating that MHP should get the credit for Techtec's work.

The reason why his posts were taken down, was not because he isn't a sponsor, its because of the way he addressed it issue at hand.


I hope I have addressed everything that could have been said about my company.

So, just as a reminder, our files are not provided by Techtec or any other distributor. We have a good friendship with Techtec because we are friends, forget work. If this has to go further and MHP refuses to meet us in Germany, then what are we supposed to do? Will everybody feel better if we stand with the owner of Techtec infront of the Techtec Headquarter's saying “Who the f@#k is MHP?” on a signboard? Don't tempt us, we'll do it.

Note to all tuners...Can we all just get along?

Moderators: Please let Andy reply to this post, I understand his posts will be deleted if name calling/racial slurs are involved.

cyberorth

Why do you keep money in speaker boxes?
Why are you telling people where you hide your money?
No further questions.

sales@ECU Tuning Group

We don't. Just thought we would make a joke out of what some people take so serious.

Sirex63

Till now u haven't showed us anything of you work , none of your customers showed up neither rappers and celebrities hhh !!

u just keep saying u've been in this industry since ever !

Ur just experienced in barking a lot rather than showing facts , all u can do is insult others so u can get benefits ! Lol

All u can talk about is money , well habibi everybody owns money , who just talks about money and keep mentioning it he's the one that always dreaming about it since he never get it hhhh


Everybody knows who's Andy @ MHP , nobody knows abt u any ***** !

Wait a min , u just said u never heard about MHP or Andy , how can u know that he's a reseller ? That's wicked u don't even know how to lie haha

Sirex63

Btw why do u invite Andy to the thread and then when he shows up u just disappear , lol

U were just there behind ur screen reading and watching facts u already know , but haven't got the ***** to reply untill u knew Andy is not there anymore ,

Otherwise how did u get a print screen for Andy's posts ? Hahaha

sales@ECU Tuning Group

Sirex, all I hear from you is crickets.

Seems like you are little MHP fanboy. Please, do not get sidetracked from the original topic.

I stated earlier in post #69 that Andy himself confessed he buys his files from a third party. FYI, I have a life and have more important stuff to do than sit behind a monitor all day long. Since I knew the mods and admin were going to remove Andy's posts, a colleague of mind was kind enough to screen shot his posts. I mean, how nice could I get? I want the whole community to see what is exactly going.

I laid down the facts. Do I really need to start taking pictures of all my customers cars? I don't think so.

BTW, I find it absolutely hilarious that MHP's 'Testing bay' and 'Specialized Technicians' pictures from their website are directly from Techtec's facility.

If you don't believe me, take a look for yourself. You will find both pics inside.

Techtec Gallery

harrower

Interesting banter. Just some comments.

1. Why would you stuff $500K+ in speakers if you are legit business. Avoidance of taxes yes for sure is one reason, but this speaks of less than ethical behaviour and raises some serious issues. Why not wire money like any respectable business unless you want to avoid international banking laws. I am sure no records or charges are recorded as the normal course here is to settle, pay penalities rather than have the IRS/State prosecute the case. Penalities are steep for sure, but better than jail time or refusal entry into US.

2. Please don't come off with statements about private jets and who you took to a concert. No one cares and one thing I learned along time ago, there is always someone with more $, connections, power and swag than you. In fact the most powerful and wealthest people I know are humble, act like a everyday person and they never brag!

3. I will call Pacal tomorrow as I speak German and see what he has to say.

4. Now to the more civilized matters. Your website claims the following:

1. C63 twin turbo - I am sure alot of members here would be very interested in this set-up, whose products, Mapping for such a set-up and gains. I have never heard of a twin-turbo on M156 so very interested in understanding this.

2. MCLaren SLS? Not sure what this is. BTW, guys in Germany like Brabus, Vath and other have been remapping SLSs for some time so careful on the claim. http://ecutuninggroup.com/mercedes-mclaren-sls

3. SL65 Black - http://ecutuninggroup.com/mercedes-s...g-black-series no issue on ECU remapping but never heard of anyone been successful on TCU. In fact the car was "pulled" back as not to rip the tranny apart. Please show proof that you modified TCU.

4. Finally and this one kills me. http://ecutuninggroup.com/bugatti-ve...uning-via-obd2 240hp gain on the worlds most advanced engine? Please, this is the stupidist thing I have ever heard. Your company has managed to take millions of dollars and years of research by VW and make it 20%+ better? Really. Any cooling issues. Any tranny issues. Please show proof of this as I find it doubtful that anyone who has dropped $1.5-2M on this car would allow anyone to tune what is considered to the most advanced and highly engineered car ever built!

http://ecutuninggroup.com/pulley-kits - since when do you need a ECU map for a pulley? Never heard of that been the case. Evo have sold tons of pulleys for 55/63 and never heard that you need ECU work.

Anyway, my recommendation here if you want to generate sales is to:

1. Be more humble
2. Bring proof to the table. People here have heard it all before and tend to disbelieve until it is proven.
3. MHP is a proven commidity here regardless of his status on board. I would approach this as a newbie regardless of how long you have been in business. You are new here so act accordingly

Dave