Neighbor left a note on my windshield...
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. I agree with others here and also think that he is being polite. My exhaust is modified as well and at cold start it sounds like an explosion, at least that's what my neighbors told me. At early morning hours, I leave the garage door closed when I start it up and open it when the revs come down. I'm sure they can still hear it, but at least I make an effort. I also leave my house and come back to it as quietly as possible.At least your neighbor left you an note. I had some guy follow me home, park in front of my driveway and complain that when I go by his house his two little dogs start barking
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Sorry but I completely disagree with you... I do NOT think anyone is in the WRONG.
I think this is just a situation that can be discussed and mutually fix.
I don't think someone modding their exhaust is IN THE WRONG.
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Ditto, no one is in the "Wrong" here, especially for modding the Exhaust.
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If you've modded your exhaust in such a way that it is very loud you are in the wrong.
I'm sure there is a decibel number that could be agreed upon as "too loud" and I am also sure it is illegal at that point. Get over it. Now if you did some kind of mod that isn't bothering others - then by all means, enjoy!
I'm sure there is a decibel number that could be agreed upon as "too loud" and I am also sure it is illegal at that point. Get over it. Now if you did some kind of mod that isn't bothering others - then by all means, enjoy!
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The reality is that we should be able to do whatever we want but we need to do it while being respectful of those around us... we would expect the same of others towards us. So, we can be all tough and say "rev it louder", "f the neighbor", "too bad for him" (not suggesting you are saying this) but if the tables were reversed, I guarantee each of us would be equally as annoyed as the neighbor but many wouldn't have been as nice in dealing with it.
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I found this note on my windshield today.
"hello, I was awoken at 4am ish when you started your car. I asked my downstairs neighbors and they said the same and suggested I leave you a note. If at all possible could you start up quiter? We're both in building #19 (where you back into) and even during the day our dogs go crazy because it's so loud (doors and windows closed). If that's just the way your car is, possibly turning the mufflers (parking normal) other way might elevate some ear pressure. Just a suggestion from a friendly noise sensitive neighbor. Thanks".
I'm not sure Parking the other way will help. It'll just point my mufflers at the building I live in. The sound will just bounce of my building and back at the other one. Anyone else get complaints?
"hello, I was awoken at 4am ish when you started your car. I asked my downstairs neighbors and they said the same and suggested I leave you a note. If at all possible could you start up quiter? We're both in building #19 (where you back into) and even during the day our dogs go crazy because it's so loud (doors and windows closed). If that's just the way your car is, possibly turning the mufflers (parking normal) other way might elevate some ear pressure. Just a suggestion from a friendly noise sensitive neighbor. Thanks".
I'm not sure Parking the other way will help. It'll just point my mufflers at the building I live in. The sound will just bounce of my building and back at the other one. Anyone else get complaints?
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I don't think anyone is "wrong" as such. However, no one can convince me that if their neighbor modified their car to the point that it was loud enough to wake you up every morning it wouldn't annoy you too... and rightfully so. If you had kids, for example, and your neighbor's car woke them every morning at 5AM I can PROMISE you that you would be very annoyed and would probably think he was an idiot. This really comes down to being respectful of others... but, I do agree, no one is really wrong but if the exhaust is really loud enough to wake up the neighbors, IMO, it has to be addressed. Why? Because I am CERTAIN that if the tables were turned, everyone here who think it is no big deal would change their opinion when someone else (loud dog, Harley revving, whatever) was disturbing them.
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If you've modded your exhaust in such a way that it is very loud you are in the wrong.
I'm sure there is a decibel number that could be agreed upon as "too loud" and I am also sure it is illegal at that point. Get over it. Now if you did some kind of mod that isn't bothering others - then by all means, enjoy!
I'm sure there is a decibel number that could be agreed upon as "too loud" and I am also sure it is illegal at that point. Get over it. Now if you did some kind of mod that isn't bothering others - then by all means, enjoy!
I still don't think the word should be "wrong" the thing is NO ONE is wrong and no one can tell someone they are wrong about it.
People enjoy different things perhaps you think its not right to have your exhaust that loud but guess what... the world is not yours. The neighbor has it right by asking can he park differently and TRY to mellow it down a little is correct. But simply telling him he can't do that and he is wrong. My reaction would be **** that **** who are you to tell me I am wrong and this can't be done when its my car.
But if my neighbor came and asked nicely and trying to resolve everything maturely by ASKING and figuring out together thats a different.
But like I said if you told me I am wrong, I would just tell you to F off.
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This is pretty much exactly what I'm saying. I only say that they are "wrong" for modifying their exhaust in order to have it so loud. In all honestly, when a car has particularly loud exhaust it almost always gives me the impression that the driver is very immature. It doesn't sound good either - just silly! Now if you've done a tasteful exhaust mod to make things sound a bit different or more throaty, but not stupidly loud then please don't be offended because you are not the type I'm talking about.
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I still don't think the word should be "wrong" the thing is NO ONE is wrong and no one can tell someone they are wrong about it.
People enjoy different things perhaps you think its not right to have your exhaust that loud but guess what... the world is not yours. The neighbor has it right by asking can he park differently and TRY to mellow it down a little is correct. But simply telling him he can't do that and he is wrong. My reaction would be **** that **** who are you to tell me I am wrong and this can't be done when its my car.
But if my neighbor came and asked nicely and trying to resolve everything maturely by ASKING and figuring out together thats a different.
But like I said if you told me I am wrong, I would just tell you to F off.
People enjoy different things perhaps you think its not right to have your exhaust that loud but guess what... the world is not yours. The neighbor has it right by asking can he park differently and TRY to mellow it down a little is correct. But simply telling him he can't do that and he is wrong. My reaction would be **** that **** who are you to tell me I am wrong and this can't be done when its my car.
But if my neighbor came and asked nicely and trying to resolve everything maturely by ASKING and figuring out together thats a different.
But like I said if you told me I am wrong, I would just tell you to F off.
I've made my point so I will not comment further in this thread as it will clearly turn into a waste of time arguing very silly things.
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I still don't think the word should be "wrong" the thing is NO ONE is wrong and no one can tell someone they are wrong about it.
People enjoy different things perhaps you think its not right to have your exhaust that loud but guess what... the world is not yours. The neighbor has it right by asking can he park differently and TRY to mellow it down a little is correct. But simply telling him he can't do that and he is wrong. My reaction would be **** that **** who are you to tell me I am wrong and this can't be done when its my car.
But if my neighbor came and asked nicely and trying to resolve everything maturely by ASKING and figuring out together thats a different.
But like I said if you told me I am wrong, I would just tell you to F off.
People enjoy different things perhaps you think its not right to have your exhaust that loud but guess what... the world is not yours. The neighbor has it right by asking can he park differently and TRY to mellow it down a little is correct. But simply telling him he can't do that and he is wrong. My reaction would be **** that **** who are you to tell me I am wrong and this can't be done when its my car.
But if my neighbor came and asked nicely and trying to resolve everything maturely by ASKING and figuring out together thats a different.
But like I said if you told me I am wrong, I would just tell you to F off.
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I guess the only way it would be "wrong" is if it is louder than the law permitted (which isn't that loud really in most states/provinces). However, IMO, if someone does something that makes others' lives miserable, that is wrong too... that's just my opinion. My gauge is if I am doing something that would annoy me if someone did it to me, then I won't do it. I come back to the dog issue. My neighbor has a dog that they allow to bark for 15 to 20 min at a time when it wants to come back in the house. It wakes me up and annoys the sh*t out of me. In my opinion, it is "wrong" for them to allow the dog to do this. I wouldn't if it were my dog. The OP's situation isn't much different other than car enthusiasts get defensive.
This is a reasonable respectful approach to this. I couldn't agree more. ... and now I'll see myself out of this thread.
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Uh... no. If your car is so loud that it is a disturbance, it is wrong. It's not even legal, your neighbor can complain and you can be ticketed for it. As you said, the world is not yours - that means you need to respect others - not that you can blast them with a loud exhaust. Illegal and disrespecting others - pretty cut and dry case of being 'wrong'. You won't "try" to quiet it down if it is illegally loud - you WILL quiet it down or your neighbors will be right to file grievances against you. If you live out on a farm without a close neighbor then go for it, as loud as you want! Anyone who doesn't understand this and says that they have a right to be as loud as they want is very immature - and certainly wrong!
I've made my point so I will not comment further in this thread as it will clearly turn into a waste of time arguing very silly things.
I've made my point so I will not comment further in this thread as it will clearly turn into a waste of time arguing very silly things.
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Actually, I still wouldn't call someone wrong. I would call them wrong if they are not doing something about it and being obnoxious. To this date we don't know enough about the OP's state laws and how "legal" would be.
When I was a kid my neighbors would come and Bitc..h me out and say that I was playing basketball at 6:30 at night is too late in my neighbor hood and gave me crap for it everyday.
Does that make me wrong? Although its causing a problem doesnt make me wrong.
The thing is we don't know enough and you're not going to guess this... if there is an issue the neighbor can do this... Call the police... if they find something wrong then get it dealt with....
But in this case I think he is at a point where no one is wrong and it should just be resolved mutually.
I think this scenario is the most ideal way it should happen... the neighbor suggested a way to resolve it and OP will follow but perhaps this will still wake the neighbor up, but if I was the neighbor I would realize that he is trying and they will slowly figure out a way to resolve it. But if the neighbor came up to me and told me to get rid of it and that I am wrong for getting it.. then fk you..
I personally have a loud exhaust and in my street there are more than 2 different cars that are like this... my neighbor said I was too loud coming home at 4 am and I can't do anything about it.. but I try my best not to... my neighbor realized i am trying and changed his attitude and we figure out a way to fix this..... in the end we are talking and happy with each other.
I think that is the best way of solving something maturely.
When I was a kid my neighbors would come and Bitc..h me out and say that I was playing basketball at 6:30 at night is too late in my neighbor hood and gave me crap for it everyday.
Does that make me wrong? Although its causing a problem doesnt make me wrong.
The thing is we don't know enough and you're not going to guess this... if there is an issue the neighbor can do this... Call the police... if they find something wrong then get it dealt with....
But in this case I think he is at a point where no one is wrong and it should just be resolved mutually.
I think this scenario is the most ideal way it should happen... the neighbor suggested a way to resolve it and OP will follow but perhaps this will still wake the neighbor up, but if I was the neighbor I would realize that he is trying and they will slowly figure out a way to resolve it. But if the neighbor came up to me and told me to get rid of it and that I am wrong for getting it.. then fk you..
I personally have a loud exhaust and in my street there are more than 2 different cars that are like this... my neighbor said I was too loud coming home at 4 am and I can't do anything about it.. but I try my best not to... my neighbor realized i am trying and changed his attitude and we figure out a way to fix this..... in the end we are talking and happy with each other.
I think that is the best way of solving something maturely.
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Wow! That is a kind of neighbor I want. I think you basically got the best case scenario here. I would talk to them.
May I suggest an engine warmer. A corded hanging lamp (60watt)left in the engineer bay keeps it warm enough to reduce the start up bark. That would look good on you to at least attempt to help.
I like the am bark as much as anyone here, but let's be honest. We are not the norm here.
I would do something as a sign of good faith to say the least.
Good luck
May I suggest an engine warmer. A corded hanging lamp (60watt)left in the engineer bay keeps it warm enough to reduce the start up bark. That would look good on you to at least attempt to help.
I like the am bark as much as anyone here, but let's be honest. We are not the norm here.
I would do something as a sign of good faith to say the least.
Good luck
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I would just go talk to him apologize and just do as he asked moving your car. We both know it wont matter, but make the effort. I feel bad when I cold start my car in the mornings as well since I live in a small complex. People don't realize if they arent making the noise it can be annoying. I use to have a loud sound system when I was younger and blasted it for the world to hear. Now it annoys me and I got rid of the system. I can see if someone started their loud *** car in the mornings while I was trying to sleep could get annoying. Imagine getting woken up every day at the same time and getting so pissed about it you cant sleep..I am sure this is what is happening. If he went as far to leave you a note and his APT number he must be really upset about it, but seems courteous at the same time.
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Tell the neighbor you have ten parrots on the way....and then ask him what would you preffer ten parrots on my C63! He will say C63.... If not get him an ipod... So he can use it every night..... Make sure you only put the song friom the legendary stardust cowboy, paralyzed! Listen to it on youtube... You will love it....
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Tell the neighbor you have ten parrots on the way....and then ask him what would you preffer ten parrots on my C63! He will say C63.... If not get him an ipod... So he can use it every night..... Make sure you only put the song friom the legendary stardust cowboy, paralyzed! Listen to it on youtube... You will love it....
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In todays society I think you're doing pretty well by having neighbors that leave a note and not a slashed tire. I'd go talk to them and say you will try a few things to make it better for them - even if it doesn't help you've built a rep up and will earn a little forgiveness. My $0.02
