dodger63

Thank you everyone, if I didn't respond to some of you directly I apologize but big thanks to everyone at the track , Bk thanks for letting me borrow the setup the last couple runs it made me leave not so pissed off at myself

no loser

Congrats Mike
well done I hop you getting soon 10.5 or less

novae500

dodger63 10.745
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKRH1...TDjTyw&lf=plcp

10.69
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GESha...TDjTyw&lf=plcp

Wasnt around to get the 10.666 pass!

blackbenzz

An NA 63 showed the SC 63s how its done!!! After having the pleasure of driving Mikes car I think I'm going to bring the clk out of retirement next year. Or Mike might have to sell me his haha

ecampbell

Dodger - first off good job.

Blackbenz - showing the sc63 how it is done? That is a shot across the bow so I will bite. I ran 10.8 first time out in 5,000+ DA and while I take nothing away from Dodgers great runs, he did so in 1,000 - DA so these times would have been expected.

Do give you an idea of how important air is, here is an idea what my run would have converted to.

jrcart

Actually Ahmad, although I have already given Mike Mad Props on another board and these times are absolutely AMAZING he didn't show me anything.

I ran a 10.62 @ 136 in a +2000 DA in a 4104 lbs car. I have heard that Mikse car weighs in at about 3500 pounds in race trim. You're an intelligent person please do the math. So while even though my car is making quite a bit more power there is absolutely nothing about these runs that we can compare. I HIGHLY doubt Mike would want to line up with me for money on the same track on the same day...but maybe I'm wrong.

FYI my 10.6 corrected down to a 10.38 (sea level) I wonder what it would factor using yesterdays DA at MIR 10.20 maybe???????

I said it on the other board but I will say it here, AMAZING TIMES Mike, Great job, now bolt on a Weistec and you will not only be king of the 63s but king of the MBs.

propain

Actually a 10.5@134 Turbo's and SC's don't correct as much.

propain

10.5@134 actually.

Both of you guys have what is classified as "Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines" Please use those correction factors when correcting. You are both correcting for NA engines. Not the case.

jrcart

Earl, even more important than the DA is the weight, both your car and mine weigh over 4100 lbs. I am not taking anything away from Mike, he ran the times PERIOD but for anyone to say "showing the CS 63s how its done" is just ignorant.

Mike, I will ask you straight out, would you line up with Earl or I yesterday for even $100 had either one of our cars been there?


Earl, I think technically if I recall, the DA was only +4800 when we ran our side by side 10.8s LOL. That being said,Mike ran this time and nobody can take that away from him, we could have been at the event yesterday so it is our loss that we didn't take advantage of those conditions. I get pissed when people try to discredit our times or rain on or parades so let's not do the same to Mike. I'm taking the high road but I had to chime in on Ahmads comment because it was way out of line, invalid and inaccurate.

propain

That's pretty cool actually. I just realized as I replied to both of you that you both ran IDENTICAL times with the corrected DA. 10.8 at +5000 and 10.6 at +2000.

jrcart

I was just quoting a figure that other quoted back when I ran the time, I hardly ever look at corrected numbers but in this conversation I thought it might be useful to look at corrected numbers.

What does it correct to factoring yesterdays -1200 DA at MIR? Is there a way to calculate thate? Just curious now that we're on the topic.

jrcart

Because that's what corrected figures people were throwing around on BB when we ran. No biggie, like I said was just for sake of conversation. I don't want to derail this thread, this is about Dodger/Mike not Earl and I. Dodger is making it to Bradenton in Jan/Feb so I'm sure there will be plenty of ecampbell/dodger/Dads/Jrcart threads then.

propain

It corrects to a 10.7

You guys still correct lower. No question both of you are quicker. In Neg DA like his probably a 10.3 uncorrected. VERY impressive considering you weight close to 400lb's more.

blackbenzz

It corrects the same way jrcart. You plug in the numbers and it corrects it haha. I'm just trying to motivate you guys to get out there and make some good passes! Relax. No doubt your cars are CAPABLE of much more. You don't have to teach me about the air, I've done my fair share of racing as jrcart already knows... ricer hoopty powa! LOL.

propain

Just to be clear on the DA. Mikes best run was at 4:30pm. The DA at the time was -745

ecampbell

Here is my thought. Lets see if logistically we can get everyone together say this first week of March in Florida....we have a private rental and one of the tracks and go have fun and a big party afterwards.

jrcart

No, I meant calculate my 10.62 that I ran in a +1800 to the -1200 they ran in yesterday.

blackbenzz

If my hoopty is ready by March can I join in? You guys are motivating me to get back in the game. I can get MIR any time they aren't running an event so if you want me to set something up its just a call away.

Btw, with some more seat time in Mikes car I'm pretty sure I can turn a 10.5X... I mean I did cut a 1.55 60' but had the car in comfort If he's down we can try to make it happen soon

jrcart

First week of March??? I thought we were talking last week of Jan or first week of Feb???

First week of March will be too hot and humid in FL, I will not be attending, we would be better of running MIR is we have to wait until March.

blackbenzz

You just correct both to zero

Woah don't get carried away, the record time was run at about -866 DA NOT -1200. Your sig says 10.639 but if you ran 10.62 in +1800 it corrects to 10.547 in a SC car. Mikes car corrects to 10.736 Was it worth $400k?

Give me the exact details on both runs and I will get both DA corrected accurately

jrcart

$400k is a stretch, more like $300k and yes, very worth it, that's chump change, play money. If I gutted my car it would go faster too.

propain

It has a 10.5 in it for sure. Excellent driving Ahmad. Get another rental going I will be there. Just need enough lead time.

Back to Jim's car...

Jim. you just correct to zero. You don't correct to -866 that was run for his best time. Neg DA you can just assume. There is no calculator I know of that does that.

Your car in 0 DA at your best time would correct to 10.546 @ 135.845 MPH.

You cant go back the same conditions because as you can see a NA engine suffers a much higher correct than a SC or Turbo. So Mikes car correct by about a 3/4 a 10th. A SC or Turbo would only correct a 1/4 a tenth in those conditions. So pretty much take your time. Factor it to zero and then shave about 1/4 to 1/2 a 10th. You would run about a 10.4XX in -866 DA.

Now that's some good ole bench racing. Who knows how your tune or your SC will perform at sea level and in cold temps. The only way to know is to do it. Everything else is BS.

blackbenzz

I was just taking a shot in the dark. Guess your last round of mods were free since you said you had $300k tied into it a while ago. Yea you're right it's chump change, you surely have a few exotics parked in your garage as well right? How many Veyrons, Pagani Zondas, Ageras do you own? Surely a baller like you wold have a fleet of exotics to throw $300+k at a 10 second car.

With that kind of money I'd get a UGR or Alpha 12 and wax that CLK all day long.


Thanks I will definitely keep you in the loop

dodger63

Good fun guys, please we are all on the same team,

Quick question Jr you state gutted, I'm not making assumptions here but, don't yoi and Ecampbell have race seats driver and passenger? And the clk black series does not have a back seat to begin with right?

All you guys correcting and all this.. doesn't the ice in the trunk HELP cancel out high DA? I really don't no this but I thought that's,exactly what its for?

jrcart

I think earl was mistaken, I am looking to rent Bradenton late Jan early Feb, but to answer your question you are more than welcome to attend, the event is open to anyone but Andy. The more the merrier, it would be nice to get all the heavy heiiter together on the same day, it would put an end to all the smack talk that's for sure, no excuses. I will post as soon as I have a firm date. If the date goes beyond early Feb we will have to move the event to MIR or Atco because IMO the air in FL is no good once March hits, humidity skyrockets.