SoCal C63 Black Series Coupe
Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
C32, 911 Carrera S(991), C63BS
Yes I have, what I believe to be, the final MSRP price list. But I made certain assurances to the source of these materials not to widely distribute its content.
Please PM and and I will see what I can co.
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
CLK Black
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
CLK Black
Member
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
bmw e-60 550i,bmw e-92 m3, c63coupe p31, stable of Italian stallions MV's
Yes it is a art. I wish people would understand and keep the forum a little professional. The c 63 black series was sold before it was even given to dealers to sell.(selective sale from dealership clients) A lot of the the black series were sold to people that owned black series from the past. The amg certified dealerships were given a alacation or two and that was it. 73 in U.S. I've tried for a month, there not issuing more. If there is I 'd like to know were.
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: Fulleton, CA
2008 RPi BMW M5, 2010 E63 AMG, 2010 C300
BMW has had dealer markups for years on their M vehicles. Ferrari won't even sell you a car unless you've own one already. Again I don't make the rules, just relaying what I was told by management. There will be a $20 K dealer markup on the new BS. It is going to be an extremely rare vehicle. I'm sure there may be the exception to the rule, and you may find a few dealerships that will sell them at msrp, but most likely not in the western region.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,630
Likes: 7
From: Denver, CO
'09 SL Black, '12 ML63, '13 SL63, '14 E63 Wagon, '14 458 Italia
After discussing trade-in value with my dealership, I'm not going to go after a C63 BS. If there's anyone that's legitimately interested in purchasing one, PM me, and I'll direct you to my contact.
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Sunny SoCali
A snail...
I've purchased four M vehicles at 3 different dealerships, all during launch and all were at or "below" MSRP.
As for Ferrari, those days are gone too. My father, non-Ferrari owner, shopped for a 599 (new) back in 2010... Both dealers we went to offered MSRP right off the bat. We stuck with the one closer to home...
And in case you're thinking my reply isn't relevant - all these dealerships were in the Western Region, located in Southern California.
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: Fulleton, CA
2008 RPi BMW M5, 2010 E63 AMG, 2010 C300
I have never seen a M vehicle sell for under dealer markup at the time of launch. You may be the acception to the rule but most aren't. Sure you can get m3s for under invoice now that the new 3 series is going to be available later this year. I gaurantee you it would be extremely difficult to find a F10M5 that sells for msrp. When the m5 come out in may or June, they will sell for 50k over invoice. A few may be able to get it for slightly less than 50 over, but not many. It will be the same with the BS as well. I'm not saying it's impossible but it will be tough
Last edited by Dbae1978; Jan 1, 2012 at 03:28 PM.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
From: NY
2007 Corvette Z06/2011 BMW M3
I have never seen a M vehicle sell for under dealer markup at the time of launch. You may be the acception to the rule but most aren't. Sure you can get m3s for under invoice now that the new 3 series is going to be available later this year. I gaurantee you it would be extremely difficult to find a F10M5 that sells for msrp. When the m5 come out in may or June, they will sell for 50k over invoice. A few may be able to get it for slightly less than 50 over, but not many. It will be the same with the BS as well. I'm not saying it's impossible but it will be tough
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,049
Likes: 2
W204
Lol I was offered m3 the first week of launch at under 2000 msrp..... 50k + msrp for a M5? You're stupid... I can go to bmw right now and get it for msrp 100% sure
also it's harder to get c63 BS allocation in Canada and someone I know ordered it at msrp....
also it's harder to get c63 BS allocation in Canada and someone I know ordered it at msrp....
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,675
Likes: 11
From: NA
Yes
To HOI guy - just some unsolicited advice for what its worth. Even though you have 131 posts here, clearly you are making the mistake many vendors do by coming onto messageboards, which is heavily slanted towards one particular demographic, and speaking on behalf of your experience with a totally different demographic.
The messageboard poster is one that actively seeks knowledge, and probably one who tends to analyze things pretty deeply. This means that most of us are the types to not just go into a dealer and accept "$20k over MSRP", we are the types to call around and do our research (hence the whole concept of a messageboard) until we find the right deal. Maybe not because of the cash, but because we need to win, and we need to feel like we did our homework and aced the test. As the old saying goes, if you can find ONE exception, it becomes the rule in many folks mind.
Case in point I bought my '09 C63 loaded minus CF for $53k, brand new. As did many others on here. I am not the type of person who is going to pay $20k over MSRP, and when someone comes in spouting that type of number, our instinct is to automatically call you out and, if we can find an MSRP deal, beat you over the head with it, over and over and over and over. Which is what's happening. You defending it isn't making the MSRP deals go away, and frankly is just making you look bad.
The other demographic that you come in referencing and representing is the "how much is it? Oh ok....I'll take it" - they typically dont live on messageboards. Know your audience my friend, and best of luck selling the allocation, no doubt you will get what you want for it from someone, somewhere.
The messageboard poster is one that actively seeks knowledge, and probably one who tends to analyze things pretty deeply. This means that most of us are the types to not just go into a dealer and accept "$20k over MSRP", we are the types to call around and do our research (hence the whole concept of a messageboard) until we find the right deal. Maybe not because of the cash, but because we need to win, and we need to feel like we did our homework and aced the test. As the old saying goes, if you can find ONE exception, it becomes the rule in many folks mind.
Case in point I bought my '09 C63 loaded minus CF for $53k, brand new. As did many others on here. I am not the type of person who is going to pay $20k over MSRP, and when someone comes in spouting that type of number, our instinct is to automatically call you out and, if we can find an MSRP deal, beat you over the head with it, over and over and over and over. Which is what's happening. You defending it isn't making the MSRP deals go away, and frankly is just making you look bad.
The other demographic that you come in referencing and representing is the "how much is it? Oh ok....I'll take it" - they typically dont live on messageboards. Know your audience my friend, and best of luck selling the allocation, no doubt you will get what you want for it from someone, somewhere.
Member
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
bmw e-60 550i,bmw e-92 m3, c63coupe p31, stable of Italian stallions MV's
I had a 2008 BMW
M3 e-92. I purchased the vehicle in 2008 of march. It was one of the few that was shipped in Michigan. I paided around 70k for it . It was 1500 under msrp. There was not a premium on the msrp. BMW does not do this on there m cars. It's the scum dealerships that play there games. They usually close there doors anyway. Bad business.
M3 e-92. I purchased the vehicle in 2008 of march. It was one of the few that was shipped in Michigan. I paided around 70k for it . It was 1500 under msrp. There was not a premium on the msrp. BMW does not do this on there m cars. It's the scum dealerships that play there games. They usually close there doors anyway. Bad business.
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 259
Likes: 2
i always wonder what kind of information dealer people, especially floor sales people learn from. they are all clearly brain-washed to a serious level. no way someone would just come out to public to make themselves look & sound like an idiot, right? so that only leads me to believe people who trained them are brain-washing them well. they're living in their own little world that never know what's reality is out there. again i'm just amazed...
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: Fulleton, CA
2008 RPi BMW M5, 2010 E63 AMG, 2010 C300
For those who are well informed and research online will never pay full price for a vehicle. I personally did not pay msrp for my E63. I was merely stating the simple fact that dealerships do infact have markups. You or I would never pay full msrp but there are many out there that are not as well informed, as the online community. The purpose of this post was simply to build some excitement, just as I was when I was told that we were getting one.
Newbie
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
E350
Excitement, really? Didn't you ask people to contact you for a $20k deposit? You treat people like they are retards. I am sorry, staying away from HOI for any MB purchase the rest of my life.
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: Fulleton, CA
2008 RPi BMW M5, 2010 E63 AMG, 2010 C300
I have made many friends on this forum and was able to receive valuable information from this site. I appreciate everyone's opinions as this is an open forum. I understand dealer markups make some of our fellow board members upset, but they exist. I personally am not a fan of them and think the same way many of you do. Again I am merely a messenger.
I thought it would be nice to post some inside information that most people do not have access to. If my post have offended you I apologize. My intentions were to stir up some excitement and update the thread with pricing information as well as actual pics of the c63 bs.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,263
Likes: 901
From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
This thread is not going to end up good. Plus the OP is not a sponsor and yet has clearly made it clear he works for a dealer which is a violation of the TOU here at the site. I am closing your thread and ask that you remove the link in the signature or become a paying sponsor here.
You will need to contact an admin at IB to gain sponsorship access.
You will need to contact an admin at IB to gain sponsorship access.
