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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:20 AM
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Is LSD a must???

Good Monday morning....

Question for all gurus here.....

Is the factory LSD...aka limited slip differential a 'must order' option when speccing the car?

Many thanks....
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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It depends on how you drive. If you have a lead foot and want to track it then yes. If you are just going to drive normally with the occasional squirt then no. I do not have it and I have zero problems but I drive conservatively.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Cheers...thanks.

Was reading some of the earlier posts.... Some people swear by it....

Anyways....assuming the car does NOT have an LSD installed.... Can i buy a quaife, renntech LSD and install it aftermarket?
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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It depends on how you drive. If you have a lead foot and want to track it then yes. If you are just going to drive normally with the occasional squirt then no. I do not have it and I have zero problems but I drive conservatively.
I am with you. I got advice on that too. If you live in a big city and do not do any track work, it is a waste of money. However if you have plenty of cash, go for it

Perry
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmoley
Good Monday morning....

Question for all gurus here.....

Is the factory LSD...aka limited slip differential a 'must order' option when speccing the car?

Many thanks....
"A Must" no. I'm with Perry & Harold on this. Here in Aussie it's like a $7k option inc tax. If you drive with traction on like me... No use

However am I going to need all of my 357kw??? No but it's nice to have.

Do a search there are heaps of info on this site about this.

Ps I'm not a gurus... I'm just a naughty boy.

Giddy up

Marty
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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I'd rather go aftermarket than spend $7k as a factory option. Quaife, Wavetrac, Drexler or OS Giken/Renntech. Really depends on how you drive and if you're going to take it to the track AND if you value factory warranty for the LSD option.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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I've heard it helps you expand your mind but it is very illegal. I don't recommend it.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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I've heard it helps you expand your mind but it is very illegal. I don't recommend it.



This method is cheaper too...



You dont NEED an LSD. There is little to no difference at the 1/4 track. If you were to road course the C63 I would say its a must. But for street performance and 1/4 mile its not needed. Use the money for headers.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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The car I bought has the factory LSD.

While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.

It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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is it only the P31 comes with the factory LSD? Standard don't right?
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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My driving style includes.....Some b road driving...meaning country side spirited driving.... Town driving.... Highway blasts.

It rains lots here in Singapore where i am located... The LSD from what i have read helps with traction....

I am not really into 1/4 mile runs nor race track track days type..... (i would not really consider the amg if i track a lot). Besides.... I have got my eye on the c63 wagon.

I test drove the tester (c63 sedan) the other day.... Gave the car some gas for a Highway on ramp mid corner, car's tail came out.... Scared the heavily pregnant sales lady. Would not have happened in my m3 imho.

Anyways, i am also researching on upgrading factory 19s with fatter tires.

The amg cars sold here come with performance pack... Red calipers, SLS engine internals.....But NOT the LSD....
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Forest Jim
"A Must" no. I'm with Perry & Harold on this. Here in Aussie it's like a $7k option inc tax. If you drive with traction on like me... No use

However am I going to need all of my 357kw??? No but it's nice to have.

Do a search there are heaps of info on this site about this.

Ps I'm not a gurus... I'm just a naughty boy.

Giddy up

Marty

I love australia and the nice sydney - melbourne drive....but i hate the 110km/h speed limits imposed on highways.... Enforced so religiously.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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I run 12.0's in mine.....no LSD.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmoley
It rains lots here in Singapore where i am located... The LSD from what i have read helps with traction....
hmmm, interesting. My experience is exactly the opposite. I find that the LSD makes rain driving worse. Reminds me of driving a RWD car on snow...lol.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Ok.... I'll go for an extended drive with the sales lady again..... Admittedly, i love the gobs of torque this car has vs the m3.... So much better to drive in heavy traffic. 1k rpm and the car is cruising along just fine....it also picks up speed quickly

I have tried the bmw f10 m5 as well, love it.... But slight turbo lag.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dubaudi
The car I bought has the factory LSD.

While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.

It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
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hmmm, interesting. My experience is exactly the opposite. I find that the LSD makes rain driving worse. Reminds me of driving a RWD car on snow...lol.
It's because with no LSD, you have 1 wheel spinning, and 3 wheels (2 fronts and 1 rear) guiding the car straight. With LSD, both rear wheels are spinning, only the fronts are guiding you straight (which also steers), hence the driving on snow feeling. While no LSD is easier to drive in the rain, the LSD has more traction, and is putting more power down, and should be faster. The trick is to be easier on the right foot.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rage2
It's because with no LSD, you have 1 wheel spinning, and 3 wheels (2 fronts and 1 rear) guiding the car straight. With LSD, both rear wheels are spinning, only the fronts are guiding you straight (which also steers), hence the driving on snow feeling. While no LSD is easier to drive in the rain, the LSD has more traction, and is putting more power down, and should be faster. The trick is to be easier on the right foot.
oh I totally understand why it's happening. The part I can't get used to is how lightly you touch the gas and still break loose...
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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P31 does not come with L.S.D. in Aus.
Is an L.S.D. a must?....Absolutely not!
Did we spec an L.S.D. with our C63?.....Yes, we did.
Why? Well the C63 is obviously a "performance" car, we ordered P31, so we thought we'd spec the L.S.D., so that our car had "all" the "performance" options...a "hamburger with the lot" if you like.
If there had been any other "performance related" options, we'd probably have specced them too.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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LSD improves the cars dynamics in every situation

It's kinds like driving around with all seasons when you coulda had a set of Pilot Sport Cups or RE11s


Those that don't have it, wouldn't complain if they did

I just can't imagine dropping $80k on a powerhouse and doing 1 wheel peels

Just sayin
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Not if you are an 85 year old grandma lol. For me it does but then again i drive my car like i stole it. You could purchase without the lsd and get an aftermarket one later down the road.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rage2
It's because with no LSD, you have 1 wheel spinning, and 3 wheels (2 fronts and 1 rear) guiding the car straight. With LSD, both rear wheels are spinning, only the fronts are guiding you straight (which also steers), hence the driving on snow feeling. While no LSD is easier to drive in the rain, the LSD has more traction, and is putting more power down, and should be faster. The trick is to be easier on the right foot.

Tell that to the 50 foot stretch I put down with both tires without an LSD.


On the 1/4 track there is no difference between the LSD and without. The only time you can run into a Jam is warming up the drags if both tires don't spin. With a little nudging you can get both of them to spin up just fine if you run into that issue.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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sorry for slightly thread jacking but I guess this will help the OP too.

is the factory LSD or a quaife better? I think the factory is 30% lock up while the quaife is 100%? does that mean the quaife is better?
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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thank you all for your words of advice......




btw, @GBlansten, @propain....

please share whats in your cup of coffee in the mornings.....
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I've heard it helps you expand your mind but it is very illegal. I don't recommend it.
If I recall correctly, Steve Jobs said Bill Gates should have tripped more to expand on ideas and concepts...
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