Is LSD a must???
03-19-2012, 06:20 AM
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Is LSD a must???
Good Monday morning....
Question for all gurus here.....
Is the factory LSD...aka limited slip differential a 'must order' option when speccing the car?
Many thanks....
Question for all gurus here.....
Is the factory LSD...aka limited slip differential a 'must order' option when speccing the car?
Many thanks....
03-19-2012, 06:42 AM
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It depends on how you drive. If you have a lead foot and want to track it then yes. If you are just going to drive normally with the occasional squirt then no. I do not have it and I have zero problems but I drive conservatively.
03-19-2012, 06:53 AM
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Cheers...thanks.
Was reading some of the earlier posts.... Some people swear by it....
Anyways....assuming the car does NOT have an LSD installed.... Can i buy a quaife, renntech LSD and install it aftermarket?
Was reading some of the earlier posts.... Some people swear by it....
Anyways....assuming the car does NOT have an LSD installed.... Can i buy a quaife, renntech LSD and install it aftermarket?
03-19-2012, 06:54 AM
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03-19-2012, 07:18 AM
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However am I going to need all of my 357kw??? No but it's nice to have.
Do a search there are heaps of info on this site about this.
Ps I'm not a gurus... I'm just a naughty boy.
Giddy up
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03-19-2012, 08:27 AM
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I'd rather go aftermarket than spend $7k as a factory option. Quaife, Wavetrac, Drexler or OS Giken/Renntech. Really depends on how you drive and if you're going to take it to the track AND if you value factory warranty for the LSD option.
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03-19-2012, 09:28 AM
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This method is cheaper too...
You dont NEED an LSD. There is little to no difference at the 1/4 track. If you were to road course the C63 I would say its a must. But for street performance and 1/4 mile its not needed. Use the money for headers.
03-19-2012, 10:35 AM
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The car I bought has the factory LSD.
While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.
It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.
It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
03-19-2012, 11:05 AM
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My driving style includes.....Some b road driving...meaning country side spirited driving.... Town driving.... Highway blasts.
It rains lots here in Singapore where i am located... The LSD from what i have read helps with traction....
I am not really into 1/4 mile runs nor race track track days type..... (i would not really consider the amg if i track a lot). Besides.... I have got my eye on the c63 wagon.
I test drove the tester (c63 sedan) the other day.... Gave the car some gas for a Highway on ramp mid corner, car's tail came out.... Scared the heavily pregnant sales lady. Would not have happened in my m3 imho.
Anyways, i am also researching on upgrading factory 19s with fatter tires.
The amg cars sold here come with performance pack... Red calipers, SLS engine internals.....But NOT the LSD....
It rains lots here in Singapore where i am located... The LSD from what i have read helps with traction....
I am not really into 1/4 mile runs nor race track track days type..... (i would not really consider the amg if i track a lot). Besides.... I have got my eye on the c63 wagon.
I test drove the tester (c63 sedan) the other day.... Gave the car some gas for a Highway on ramp mid corner, car's tail came out.... Scared the heavily pregnant sales lady. Would not have happened in my m3 imho.
Anyways, i am also researching on upgrading factory 19s with fatter tires.
The amg cars sold here come with performance pack... Red calipers, SLS engine internals.....But NOT the LSD....
03-19-2012, 11:08 AM
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"A Must" no. I'm with Perry & Harold on this. Here in Aussie it's like a $7k option inc tax. If you drive with traction on like me... No use
However am I going to need all of my 357kw??? No but it's nice to have.
Do a search there are heaps of info on this site about this.
Ps I'm not a gurus... I'm just a naughty boy.
Giddy up
Marty
However am I going to need all of my 357kw??? No but it's nice to have.
Do a search there are heaps of info on this site about this.
Ps I'm not a gurus... I'm just a naughty boy.
Giddy up
Marty
I love australia and the nice sydney - melbourne drive....but i hate the 110km/h speed limits imposed on highways.... Enforced so religiously.
03-19-2012, 11:15 AM
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03-19-2012, 11:22 AM
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Ok.... I'll go for an extended drive with the sales lady again..... Admittedly, i love the gobs of torque this car has vs the m3.... So much better to drive in heavy traffic. 1k rpm and the car is cruising along just fine....it also picks up speed quickly
I have tried the bmw f10 m5 as well, love it.... But slight turbo lag.
I have tried the bmw f10 m5 as well, love it.... But slight turbo lag.
03-19-2012, 11:35 AM
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The car I bought has the factory LSD.
While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.
It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
While it's definitely fun for impressing your friends and does help a bit with straight-line acceleration, it makes driving in the rain TREACHEROUS!! Even the slightest throttle input when turning corners makes me break traction. I live in Florida and it rains quite often, so I've got to be careful. Coming from my AWD Audi, I'm not used to being so cautious in the rain.
It's either that, or these Pirellis suck in the wet! LOL
03-19-2012, 12:07 PM
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It's because with no LSD, you have 1 wheel spinning, and 3 wheels (2 fronts and 1 rear) guiding the car straight. With LSD, both rear wheels are spinning, only the fronts are guiding you straight (which also steers), hence the driving on snow feeling. While no LSD is easier to drive in the rain, the LSD has more traction, and is putting more power down, and should be faster. The trick is to be easier on the right foot.
03-19-2012, 06:02 PM
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
P31 does not come with L.S.D. in Aus.
Is an L.S.D. a must?....Absolutely not!
Did we spec an L.S.D. with our C63?.....Yes, we did.
Why? Well the C63 is obviously a "performance" car, we ordered P31, so we thought we'd spec the L.S.D., so that our car had "all" the "performance" options...a "hamburger with the lot" if you like.
If there had been any other "performance related" options, we'd probably have specced them too.
Cheers, Pickles.
Is an L.S.D. a must?....Absolutely not!
Did we spec an L.S.D. with our C63?.....Yes, we did.
Why? Well the C63 is obviously a "performance" car, we ordered P31, so we thought we'd spec the L.S.D., so that our car had "all" the "performance" options...a "hamburger with the lot" if you like.
If there had been any other "performance related" options, we'd probably have specced them too.
Cheers, Pickles.
03-19-2012, 06:28 PM
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LSD improves the cars dynamics in every situation
It's kinds like driving around with all seasons when you coulda had a set of Pilot Sport Cups or RE11s
Those that don't have it, wouldn't complain if they did
I just can't imagine dropping $80k on a powerhouse and doing 1 wheel peels
Just sayin
It's kinds like driving around with all seasons when you coulda had a set of Pilot Sport Cups or RE11s
Those that don't have it, wouldn't complain if they did
I just can't imagine dropping $80k on a powerhouse and doing 1 wheel peels
Just sayin
03-19-2012, 06:35 PM
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Not if you are an 85 year old grandma lol. For me it does but then again i drive my car like i stole it. You could purchase without the lsd and get an aftermarket one later down the road.
03-19-2012, 09:36 PM
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It's because with no LSD, you have 1 wheel spinning, and 3 wheels (2 fronts and 1 rear) guiding the car straight. With LSD, both rear wheels are spinning, only the fronts are guiding you straight (which also steers), hence the driving on snow feeling. While no LSD is easier to drive in the rain, the LSD has more traction, and is putting more power down, and should be faster. The trick is to be easier on the right foot.
Tell that to the 50 foot stretch I put down with both tires without an LSD.
On the 1/4 track there is no difference between the LSD and without. The only time you can run into a Jam is warming up the drags if both tires don't spin. With a little nudging you can get both of them to spin up just fine if you run into that issue.
03-19-2012, 09:42 PM
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sorry for slightly thread jacking but I guess this will help the OP too.
is the factory LSD or a quaife better? I think the factory is 30% lock up while the quaife is 100%? does that mean the quaife is better?
is the factory LSD or a quaife better? I think the factory is 30% lock up while the quaife is 100%? does that mean the quaife is better?
03-19-2012, 11:44 PM
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thank you all for your words of advice......
btw, @GBlansten, @propain....
please share whats in your cup of coffee in the mornings.....
btw, @GBlansten, @propain....
please share whats in your cup of coffee in the mornings.....
03-20-2012, 12:25 AM
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