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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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I just lowered my car with hr spring,the car is pulling to the right,so where can I do the alignment,do I have to go to the Mb dealer or any tire shop.

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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Not sure about your area. I called a local tire shop and they sent me to the dealer. Might be some local politics at work here?

My car was pulling to the right as well and still did after the alignment. Turned out to be radial runout and the tech cured it by swapping the front tires side to side. If your tires are not directional try swapping them and see if it cures your pull. Still a good idea to check the alignment. I got the original alignment for $135 (tax in). They suggested installing camber bolts and the re-alignment was $433.51 (tax in) with bolt installation so watch out for that trap!
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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The tire shop told me the Benz has the special tools,so only Benz can do the alignment, is that right!
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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You will probably need some camber bolts when doing wheel alignment. You don't need to go to dealer just go to a competent shop
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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I am not sure about special tools but that sounds like an excuse to me. It may be they can't get the correct specs for the computer and don't know exactly what ranges they can use for the settings.Even at the dealer the specs they used were for a 204 (C Class2008-):without 4-MATIC :Sport Suspension the first time and for a 08-11 204 (C) Sport Suspension 02/08- the second. So even the dealer did not have C63AMG settings for their alignment machine. At least the target ranges were the same under both specifications.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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Mort and amg-010,thanks for the replies.

Mort,why your car pull right,did you lower it or change the tire,I saw some member had that problem with just changing tire,this is my first AMG,so I don't know much about AMG, only had it for 3 mons,thanks again.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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I paid $700 AUS for wheel alignment and camber bolts at the dealer and it was a waste of money, after 15,000km my left Pirelli P Zero was ruined. I ended up getting BMW to wheel align it as they did such a good job on my previous M5. My car drives perfectly straight and perfectly even tire wear. I don't believe special tools are required to wheel align a Benz
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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I did mine at firestone tires
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:14 AM
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You should put camber bolts on the front if the car is lowered.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Where can I get the camber bolts ........
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Ditto on the dealership route. My normal alignment guy wouldn't touch the car.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Where can I get the camber bolts ........
The dealer should have them and any alignment shop that works on high end european cars will also have them. If the car is pulling, it usually not the camber (eventhough you may have too much) it's eiher the toe in or the tires. If you have sysmetric tires it's no big deal to swap them side to side. However you have assymetrical tires, it's not a good idea unless they there is very low milage on them.

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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 03:05 AM
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i lowered my 2012 C63 coupe with H&R springs too and have an extremely excessive amount of negative camber in the front and rear (more obvious in the front by looking but more tire wear in the rear) so if I take it to Mercedes they have camber bolts to fix it? if so how much and possibly a part number would help?!?!
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 08:46 AM
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Camber Eccentric bolts are for the front suspension only.

The part # from my invoice is 000-333-10-71.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Mort
Camber Eccentric bolts are for the front suspension only.

The part # from my invoice is 000-333-10-71.
How many are required per side, 1 or 2? I thought just 1, but I saw in another thread someone said 4 I think.

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My car pulls to the right also after installing H&R lowering springs & alignment. Tried swapping front tires first but same thing & seeing my front camber is just out of spec, -1.9 & -2.0 vs -1.8 max I'll get the camber bolts.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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You just need two bolts and they are not that expensive from aftermarket guys. Usually around $50 for the set.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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How many are required per side, 1 or 2? I thought just 1, but I saw in another thread someone said 4 I think.

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My car pulls to the right also after installing H&R lowering springs & alignment. Tried swapping front tires first but same thing & seeing my front camber is just out of spec, -1.9 & -2.0 vs -1.8 max I'll get the camber bolts.

Not entirely sure on the number of bolts required because they told me they ordered four but only installed two, one per side. The dealer charged me $35.15 per bolt = $70.30 and $95.00 to install plus tax.

My front camber went from -2.25 left; -2.10 right to -1.80 left; -1.65 right after installing the camber bolts.

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Not entirely sure on the number of bolts required because they told me they ordered four but only installed two, one per side. The dealer charged me $35.15 per bolt = $70.30 and $95.00 to install plus tax.

My front camber went from -2.25 left; -2.10 right to -1.80 left; -1.65 right after installing the camber bolts.
Thanks!

After looking around some more I saw that the bolt on the upper & lower tables is what is changed & depending on the amount of correction needed maybe both would be needed.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Here's my tip, when you first buy a Mercedes, complain about the alignment after the first week. That way they install the bolts when they check the alignment under warranty. Then anytime you go back, they can't charge you. If they say there isn't any bolts installed, tell them you will report them to MBUSA for charging a warranty item that they didn't do. This is bogus anyway, MB should install them at the factory.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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I did mine at firestone tires
OT but needs an LSD to remedy that one legger...

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Trust me, only one bolt is needed. I'm a tech and I align these cars all the time. I would suggest you go back to whom ever installed them and get the money back for one set of bolts.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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so what should one expect to pay for the bolts, installation, and alignment?
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:58 AM
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Alignment.

Step 1: measure ride height and adjust with STAR for proper geometry.

That is the step a lot of them can not do. Of course if you have lowered the car, then skip the dealer because they are not trained for that. Also, do not be surprised without camber bushings (offset center bushing) to be able to get the alighnment correct.

Good luck

EDIT: "Doh" your guys are steel suspension... never mind.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Trust me, only one bolt is needed. I'm a tech and I align these cars all the time. I would suggest you go back to whom ever installed them and get the money back for one set of bolts.
Good to know, thanks!

Would it go on the upper to push the top out or the lower to pull it in?

Also, is there a steering angle reset that should be done after in regards to the ESC?

TIA
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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The camber bolt will go into the top spot. The nylon sleeve that goes over the camber bolt will be placed either in the 3 o'clock position (decrease)or in the 9 o'clock position (increase)to get the maximum of 1-1/4 adjustment range

I have never needed to adjust anything after the alignment
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