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Old 05-08-2012, 08:24 PM
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Regardless of the outcome...both cars are bad-*** period.
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Originally Posted by C63 Guy
One thing you gotta remember, and I say this with the utmost respect for Drew, is he's really good at not letting on what he has going on until he absolutely has to. For example, he told me he was at 600whp on Friday when we were setting up... Had I known he was at 644, I would probably have made up some lame excuse about changing my tampon and needing to buy feminine wipes instead or racing, or something.

He's a master gamer.

And you will get taken.

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LOL, I think that's a compliment! Others might take that a different way. , To be clear Broski, my previous dyno 4 months ago was actually 600whp SAE at 10-11psi and 615WHP STD. The car then went back to ESS for more fuel and a new clutch, well the clutch issue cost me several months and my tranny failed as they were trying to fix it! I did not redyno until after we did these runs, which was later that day, same place you went, so the 644whp at 12.5-13psi I did not know at the time of the runs!
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Originally Posted by C63 Guy
One thing you gotta remember, and I say this with the utmost respect for Drew, is he's really good at not letting on what he has going on until he absolutely has to. For example, he told me he was at 600whp on Friday when we were setting up... Had I known he was at 644, I would probably have made up some lame excuse about changing my tampon and needing to buy feminine wipes instead or racing, or something.

He's a master gamer.

And you will get taken.

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Im just looking for some results from my understanding from talk about these kits, and im not talking smack here is that they should be low mid 10s cars with the trans build and stage 2 plu you have many other upgrades light weight seats hood trunk? What ever other custom stuff you have i would hope your cars low 10 sec car? Like i said no smack just observations? Either his car can run a 9 or your car is a real high 10sec car
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Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
Regardless of the outcome...both cars are bad-*** period.
Agreed, absolutely love the C63 and what many of you have done with it performance wise!
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LOL, I think that's a compliment! Others might take that a different way. , To be clear Broski, my previous dyno 4 months ago was actually 600whp SAE at 10-11psi and 615WHP STD. The car then went back to ESS for more fuel and a new clutch, well the clutch issue cost me several months and my tranny failed as they were trying to fix it! I did not redyno until after we did these runs, which was later that day, same place you went, so the 644whp at 12.5-13psi I did not know at the time of the runs!
Yes, it was a compliment, and I do know you didn't get your final numbers until after we ran. But c'mon, you knew it was going to be higher than what you told me... More boost and more fuel, yet the same power?

I am impressed with your ability to leave out that which isn't necessary to not only beat your opponent, but leave them scratching their head while it's happening. You should have heard Jared's and my conversation after each run, lol. Not a single word that would clear the IB filters.

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Give the Weistec some time. It needs tweaks. Come on a blown 6.2L vs a 4.0L..
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How about we do a Stage 3 vs. Stage 3 race?

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Man, great cars, and great races. This is what it's all about... drama free, multi-platform respect and enthusiasm.

Good stuff, guys.
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How about we do a Stage 3 vs. Stage 3 race?

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Lets see anything
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Man, great cars, and great races. This is what it's all about... drama free, multi-platform respect and enthusiasm.

Good stuff, guys.
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Hey Josh, we should meet up some time and do some pulls. I would love to see how my NA Stage 2 car does against yours. And I bet lots of other members would be interested too.

Lemme know.
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Originally Posted by xtyper
Hey Josh, we should meet up some time and do some pulls. I would love to see how my NA Stage 2 car does against yours. And I bet lots of other members would be interested too.

Lemme know.
Sounds good. PM me and we'll go play!

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Originally Posted by Weistec
How about we do a Stage 3 vs. Stage 3 race?

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Sounds good! I was admiring Josh's kit and the design / fitment of it, you guys did an awesome job on it, well done.
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Originally Posted by C63 Guy
Yes, it was a compliment, and I do know you didn't get your final numbers until after we ran. But c'mon, you knew it was going to be higher than what you told me... More boost and more fuel, yet the same power?

I am impressed with your ability to leave out that which isn't necessary to not only beat your opponent, but leave them scratching their head while it's happening. You should have heard Jared's and my conversation after each run, lol. Not a single word that would clear the IB filters.

Josh
lol I appreciate the kind words! Jared's a cool cat, again it was great seeing you Brother, glad things are going well for you too, looking forward to hanging out again.
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Great runs by both of you. Drew's car is running quite strong there.

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How about we do a Stage 3 vs. Stage 3 race?

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Lets!
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good to see 2 high horsepower cars going at it with 2 drivers who have a great attitudes . a little ribbing back and forth is always fun but no serious insults were ever made . that's the kind of people i enjoy hanging out with
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Drew good to see you here again... boy that M3 of yours has been under many many knives. Im glad its running like it is.

Keep it safe bro.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
boy that M3 of yours has been under many many knives.
Haha, and I even got to wield one of those knives! That car has become a total badass Frankenstein. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point nothing drivetrain related (in front of the driveshaft) is original!

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Lets see anything

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Id take 50 passes of a stage 1 right now just to get an idea....
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Originally Posted by C63 Guy
Haha, and I even got to wield one of those knives! That car is a total Frankenstein at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point nothing drivetrain related (in front of the driveshaft) is original!

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Lmao, yes she has been under the knife due to some unfortunate past events, but not a Frankenstein really, much more simple than other built motor setups and this build was by choice not necessity, when they took the motor apart it looked great. The New Transmission is completely stock, Engine is still the stock block size, 4L, with drop in Low Compression pistons made by the same company that makes the stock pistons along with Carillo rods and BMW motorsport bearings to handle the power.

The only thing that was vastly redone, to a custom extent, was the fuel system. The new transmission is also now paired with a new flywheel which is lighter than the original stock one, the original had a large counter weight, which BMW later realized was not needed. The new transmission, only 6K on it, was such a steal $ wise and is smoother than the original one, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

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Originally Posted by Vic55
Drew good to see you here again... boy that M3 of yours has been under many many knives. Im glad its running like it is.

Keep it safe bro.
Hey V, good to be back, you need to meet up with Josh, I and the guys at CNC again soon. Car has had a long journey for sure!
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Lmao, yes she has been under the knife due to some unfortunate past events, but not a Frankenstein really, much more simple than other built motor setups and this build was by choice not necessity, when they took the motor apart it looked great. The New Transmission is completely stock, Engine is still the stock block size, 4L, with drop in Low Compression pistons made by the same company that makes the stock pistons along with Carillo rods and BMW motorsport bearings to handle the power.

The only thing that was vastly redone, to a custom extent, was the fuel system. The new transmission is also now paired with a new flywheel which is lighter than the original stock one, the original had a large counter weight, which BMW later realized was not needed. The new transmission, only 6K on it, was such a steal $ wise and is smoother than the original one, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
Drew, you have the patience of a saint.

Buuuuuut, so long as we're talking... Frankenstein was a creature (badass, super human) assembled from various organs (parts) from other humans (same species, all M3 parts), and brought to life by a mad scientist (ESS). How is that not the perfect definition of your car??

Add in a supercharger, custom fuel system, rims, etc... How can you even debate that!? LOL.

Josh

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Originally Posted by C63 Guy
Drew, you have the patience of a saint.

Buuuuuut, so long as we're talking... Frankenstein was a creature (badass, super human) assembled from various organs (parts) from other humans (same species, all M3 parts), and brought to life by a mad scientist (ESS). How is that not the perfect definition of your car??

Add in a supercharger, custom fuel system, rims, etc... How can you even debate that!? LOL.

Josh
Haha, well said, you know me J, I can get a little sensitive when it comes to the subject sometimes.


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