ESS VT3 725 vs C63 Weistec Stage 2
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Josh and Drew, congrats to both of you for pushing the envelopes with your respective cars. I would like to hear each of your's perspective regarding the practicality of going the supercharger route for a car that is road course focused rather than drag strip.
Is the power delivery linear like normally aspirated?
In a moderate boost situation, will cooling be an issue? Consider that Florida summers factor into this question. I am very leery about having to add a tank of ice water in the trunk.
Is the power delivery linear like normally aspirated?
In a moderate boost situation, will cooling be an issue? Consider that Florida summers factor into this question. I am very leery about having to add a tank of ice water in the trunk.
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Josh and Drew, congrats to both of you for pushing the envelopes with your respective cars. I would like to hear each of your's perspective regarding the practicality of going the supercharger route for a car that is road course focused rather than drag strip.
Is the power delivery linear like normally aspirated?
In a moderate boost situation, will cooling be an issue? Consider that Florida summers factor into this question. I am very leery about having to add a tank of ice water in the trunk.
Is the power delivery linear like normally aspirated?
In a moderate boost situation, will cooling be an issue? Consider that Florida summers factor into this question. I am very leery about having to add a tank of ice water in the trunk.
Regarding cooling, I am installing the ice chest just to be cautious. Lots of extra power means lots of extra heat to dissipate, no matter how you slice it. That's why I went with the vented hood right away. I drive my car pretty hard most of the time I'm in it, and I don't want to risk popping anything, even a hose.
What makes you leery of the trunk tank? It's a pretty cool install. There's a drain that goes straight down through a grommet hole in the floor, and there's two grommetted (sp?) holes in the front wall of the spare well for the running lines. And having a little extra weight in the trunk can't help but balance the car better and improve traction. Fock, I usually drive around with a bowling ball back there anyway...
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Both cars are very nice. Question why did the BMW motor have 10.1 compression ratio? I would have though to lower it to around 8.5 compression ratio.
Sweet video!!!!
Sweet video!!!!
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Great job guys!! My hats off to you both for your competition and pure enjoyment of the cars. I know we have all been back and forth since N/A was the thing to do. Now with FI its gotten more serious and more fun and thats what its all about!!
Drew, WOW!! No matter what that was a great run!!![bow](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
Josh, get some better tires and lose some weight to make it more even.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Even though Drew has the upper hand on the HP I know there may be more in the Weistec system.
Ya'll be safe on the streets!! Wish you were closer so I could join you but the 2500 mile distance makes that difficult.
Anyway, I love both cars and I truly respect what you both have accomplished!!
Once again, great job and be safe!!
Drew, WOW!! No matter what that was a great run!!
![bow](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
Josh, get some better tires and lose some weight to make it more even.
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Even though Drew has the upper hand on the HP I know there may be more in the Weistec system.
Ya'll be safe on the streets!! Wish you were closer so I could join you but the 2500 mile distance makes that difficult.
Anyway, I love both cars and I truly respect what you both have accomplished!!
Once again, great job and be safe!!
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Great job guys!! My hats off to you both for your competition and pure enjoyment of the cars. I know we have all been back and forth since N/A was the thing to do. Now with FI its gotten more serious and more fun and thats what its all about!!
Drew, WOW!! No matter what that was a great run!!![bow](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
Josh, get some better tires and lose some weight to make it more even.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Even though Drew has the upper hand on the HP I know there may be more in the Weistec system.
Ya'll be safe on the streets!! Wish you were closer so I could join you but the 2500 mile distance makes that difficult.
Anyway, I love both cars and I truly respect what you both have accomplished!!
Once again, great job and be safe!!![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Drew, WOW!! No matter what that was a great run!!
![bow](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
Josh, get some better tires and lose some weight to make it more even.
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Even though Drew has the upper hand on the HP I know there may be more in the Weistec system.
Ya'll be safe on the streets!! Wish you were closer so I could join you but the 2500 mile distance makes that difficult.
Anyway, I love both cars and I truly respect what you both have accomplished!!
Once again, great job and be safe!!
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Hey Drew,
I'm not sure when the next event is but I'm gonna try to make it out. Run it N/A and see what we can get. Then maybe spray our way to 200 IF we can. She went 181 over two years ago so I think with the latest upgrades etc... she should go mid 180's or better N/A. Don't have any idea what spray will do.![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
You have any idea what yours will do in the mile??
I'm not sure when the next event is but I'm gonna try to make it out. Run it N/A and see what we can get. Then maybe spray our way to 200 IF we can. She went 181 over two years ago so I think with the latest upgrades etc... she should go mid 180's or better N/A. Don't have any idea what spray will do.
![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
You have any idea what yours will do in the mile??
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Hey Drew,
I'm not sure when the next event is but I'm gonna try to make it out. Run it N/A and see what we can get. Then maybe spray our way to 200 IF we can. She went 181 over two years ago so I think with the latest upgrades etc... she should go mid 180's or better N/A. Don't have any idea what spray will do.![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
You have any idea what yours will do in the mile??![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
I'm not sure when the next event is but I'm gonna try to make it out. Run it N/A and see what we can get. Then maybe spray our way to 200 IF we can. She went 181 over two years ago so I think with the latest upgrades etc... she should go mid 180's or better N/A. Don't have any idea what spray will do.
![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
You have any idea what yours will do in the mile??
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Drew, you have the patience of a saint.
Buuuuuut, so long as we're talking... Frankenstein was a creature (badass, super human) assembled from various organs (parts) from other humans (same species, all M3 parts), and brought to life by a mad scientist (ESS). How is that not the perfect definition of your car??
Add in a supercharger, custom fuel system, rims, etc... How can you even debate that!? LOL.
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Buuuuuut, so long as we're talking... Frankenstein was a creature (badass, super human) assembled from various organs (parts) from other humans (same species, all M3 parts), and brought to life by a mad scientist (ESS). How is that not the perfect definition of your car??
Add in a supercharger, custom fuel system, rims, etc... How can you even debate that!? LOL.
Josh
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I just learned about that not long ago (as it was also pointed out to me by some jerkoff, haha) but I thought it was interesting and thought i'd pass it along.
Great runs guys, both very strong cars and definitely not ones I'd want pulling up next to me on the highway.
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Looking forward to getting out to Willow with all the big boys.
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Very impressive! you are actually trapping a similar MPH than a guy with a similar kit and 100 shot. http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-M3-Timeslip-19895.html
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Not exactly a fair race. Fully built M3 vs stock C63 with a bolt on blower.
There's a video somewhere of a piped and tuned n/a C63 walking an M3 with a Gintani blower.
it's like; lets line up a UR Stage 3 Gallardo with a tune only GTR... yeah, that'll be fair.
I'd like to see someone do a decent TT kit for the M156. Now THAT would be a monster.
There's a video somewhere of a piped and tuned n/a C63 walking an M3 with a Gintani blower.
it's like; lets line up a UR Stage 3 Gallardo with a tune only GTR... yeah, that'll be fair.
I'd like to see someone do a decent TT kit for the M156. Now THAT would be a monster.