DuaneC63

In an effort to save a few dollars or pick up a few "advertised" extra HP/TQ you pull the brain (ECU) of your car out and send it via common carrier (remember the "FedEx throw the TV over the fence" Christmas video). Then for a some reason it doesn't work out and you're screwed with no place to turn. Deal with local shops using reputable tunes/parts. They can scam the internet but no local shops because they are dependent on the local customers to keep them in business. It might cost you a bit more, but at least you'll sleep at night.

SheryarYO

hold on...so OP got his original ECU backallegedly (but had to buy a different ECU i think or something and now has 2 ECU's) and 4ramin got a new ECU replacement paid for by Andy...what the hell are you guys still arguing for?

maybe the ECU got damaged in shipping...maybe it got damaged when Andy tried to open it up...we'll never know, but regardless, something weird seems to have been going on if Andy switched the covers on them and allegedly mailed the wrong ones to the two guys and there's multiple people that claim to have had ECU's damaged when sending them to Andy.

propain

Quite honestly you should make the time ASAP. Without the video of 2 ecus being swapped and the car starting the ecu you have in the car could still be Ramins. Starting the car with both in puts an end to his claim and makes everyone wonder why he would make up such a story. Without it there will always be doubt.

My 2 cents. The pic is not enough. Just proves you bought and programmed another ecu.

immelman

Don't give out my personal phone number. If you do I will return the favor. I have respected your privacy and you continue to violate mine. I have stated pure facts PERIOD..

propain

True. Never 100 your right. But pretty convincing.

4ramin

Vid proves nothing, Jerry can clone my ecu to your car, other can also do this

immelman

As I understand it Ramin's ECU was not damaged. It was there for a tune. Ramin is arguing for Andy and he does not have all the facts.

dodger63

Remeber oj is innocent

4ramin

I won't, but you just proved my point, Look Mike I'm over this Crap, as i said in my text to you, you can just keep my ECU as I'm over it and MHP / Andy already got me one. Just Understand that UPS or FEDEx " i don't know what you used" could have damaged your ECU and its not right the way way you have acted. Plus the right thing at the time was for you to return my ecu as i did yours. I think its past you bed time now

immelman

Oh, and one last item. Andy gave my personal cell phone number to ramin when I specifically told him not to.. Another strike against the customer loyalty. I'm done with this thread and arguing over a computer screen. My original beef was not with Ramin, he placed himself in the middle. I'd rather argue in person if I have to argue with someone......... Maybe the Tuner will inject some info for you guy's. WOW, I ought to be a full fledge member or banned with a first post like this. Keep the dirty side down and thanks to all!! Do what you want with the information I have provided.

Have a nice evening and God Bless Everyone.

4ramin

In my conversation with you , you asked him to give me your number

propain

Yeah but if those gloves fit he would be in jail.

alrasheed1991

Ya leeeel omhom leeelhom 6weeel tholi

dodger63

Ends like it starts with more questions then answers

bhamg

My head is gonna explode reading this thread but someone help me out here - looking at the ECU and knowing what usage it is designed for - doesn't it seem beyond unlikely, more like virtually impossible, to have that kind of damage from shipping? It make no sense to me.

DuaneC63

If they can't flash your ECU at your local shop...don't buy it. Based on this tread, I wouldn't buy glass cleaner from MHP.

Das Geld 2

Ok good my keyboard works now.

Alot of nice distractions here to try and distract the typical reader from the main point.

OP provided sufficient data and evidence to back up each claim.
4Ramin just posted Andy's pics and keeps answering with more questions or just comments that are trying to sway people away(i.e Propain).

The issue here about whose ECU this is, is irrelevant to the credibility of the post.

OP's ECU was damaged by a ****ing screw driver and OP said he used 5 layers of bubble wrap. Do you know what that means? There is no way his ecu could have been damaged. Not one! Even if he used one layer it was inside the SQUARE FEDEX boxes. It doesn't move or wiggle. I've shipped thousands of packages, I know how this works. The packaging sounds like it could've insulated sunglasses for that matter.

Has anyone ever tried to destroy a computer. I've took a hammer to a motherboard and the chips still barley fly off. Good luck proving it was damaged in shipping with no damage on the box, the 5 layers of bubble wrap, the metal shell and somehow a chip fell off the board. . Even if the BOX WITH THE ECU was run over by a 4000 pounds car,it would be fine

It takes alot of ***** to come and say that OP claim was false because of the ECU ownership statement. The OP time after time proved himself with supporting evidence. If the vin was matched from the ECU, there you have it. if the OP says it works in his car. I'll take his word.

4RAMIN why are you just posting irrelevant ****? Andy doesn't care about you, nice job copy and pasting some PP info etc. Trying to lower the credibility of the OP by talking about an ECU? Who do you take us for fools. Andy has been here since 08 getting ripped in the E55 platform, so he came to you C suckers. Ask Bruce about Andy

Analyze the facts and decide for yourself.

dodger63

This is life. Anything can happen and normally. Does but.......

propain

I agree with this. These ecus are built to take a beating. You would have to seriously abuse a bubble wrapped in a box ecu to break it.

From what I got from all this.

1. The ecu was damaged by mhp.
2. The ecu was returned to the customer.
3. The ecu in his car is tuned by an unknown tuner.


My questions remain.

1. Does he have Ramins ecu.
2. Is it being kept as an FU to mhp.
3. Does he really have 2 working ecus and Ramin is full of it.

4ramin

Dude he still has mine but I'm over it, you can see how upset her got if i posted his text msgs. who cares anymore. Im just pissed at the way he handled this, you can see from the paypal ANDY paid for a new ecu and also gave me a free tune. So I'm good

4ramin

This is not about Andy, This is about mike hold on to my ECU because he's pissed of Andy. That was not cool. As i said Andy made things right with me in just a few min after mike refused to send my ECU back... Anyways its just a car after all.

alrasheed1991

Free Tune

driftmotion

just to add to what you are saying.....

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3536.jpg
this picture is clearly photoshopped .... look at the bottom of the black connector you can see the table color between the black and the white of the paper. My wife is a graphic designer and mentioned that it's clearly edited ...

plus does no one notice that it's the same photo set than the OP's first photo? and that the writing below the MHP logo is gray not black? where's this infamous picture with today's newspaper LOL.

and I mean come on ... why would the OP risk loosing face by lying about his bad experience ... I think if you had an issue with him, that's between you and him ... it doesn't change the fact that MHP was more involved in the damaged than "shipping damage" .... your ECU issue has nothing to do with that at all!!

Just my 2cents .... and maybe a dime in there too

4ramin

Yes that was cool

Das Geld 2

This is what your doing:

The burden of proof is on you. The OP says the ECU works in his car,therefore it's his. THE OP says the ECU has his VIN when it was scanned by the 3rd party tuner.

What reason do we have NOT to believe his word?

So far everything he is saying is checking out.