do you guys think im an mhp fanboy
05-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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05-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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05-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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Those who don't like Andy (mhp) is because they have had a bad experience with him personally. You either bat with him or you don't. If you ask for something or seek something (questions or answers) from Andy which in his world can not occur/ happen he will kick you to the kerb. Every one is different, this Andy. Great to deal with until you have questions with answers that don't add up. His product works for some and not for others. Every business has un happy customers. The problem with Andy is he has many and has many enemies. Put business aside I think hed be an alright bloke to talk to, but i wouldn't do business with him.
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05-09-2012, 08:32 PM
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i think people just love to hate Andy . those of us that have a great experience with Andy are just called fanboys usually by those who have had bad experiences . i am with you in the fact that i just want to go faster and unless i have a sponsorship , i will not be anyones poster child . i will call it like i see it from my experiences . i have now moved on to Weistec products because that is the path i chose to build a bigger monster than i had before . one member asked why i didn't go to MHP to tune my blower but i only did it through Weistec because my car is there for the complete tranny build , which MHP could not do .
i guess people can call me whatever they want but in the end , i was just a happy customer with MHP and now i am going to be a happy customer with Weistec .
i guess people can call me whatever they want but in the end , i was just a happy customer with MHP and now i am going to be a happy customer with Weistec .
05-09-2012, 09:17 PM
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I don't think people love to hate on Andy. Me personally I like to ask questions, and value trust in a business. And when I am told things that don't add up I no longer trust the business. Their product might be wonderful, but its that trust issue that blows it for me. I feel like he makes his company out to be a world class one with a big shop and research and development like, but in reality he doesn't make the tunes is the impression I got from his emails which he even told me the old company he got the tunes from, and his "business" address is a house... My only purpose of this post is for people thinking about getting an ECU tune, judge for yourself but I would pick a company with assists and that can replace an engine if anything does go wrong.
05-09-2012, 09:28 PM
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I don't think people love to hate on Andy. Me personally I like to ask questions, and value trust in a business. And when I am told things that don't add up I no longer trust the business. Their product might be wonderful, but its that trust issue that blows it for me. I feel like he makes his company out to be a world class one with a big shop and research and development like, but in reality he doesn't make the tunes is the impression I got from his emails which he even told me the old company he got the tunes from, and his "business" address is a house... My only purpose of this post is for people thinking about getting an ECU tune, judge for yourself but I would pick a company with assists and that can replace an engine if anything does go wrong.
05-09-2012, 09:41 PM
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For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
05-09-2012, 11:23 PM
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Well with 30,000 miles on his tunes and running the race tune for the last year with prob close to 600 passes at the track seems like its safe to me. Ok well anyway this is side tracking op's topic
Obviously by the numbers MHP is a very aggressive tune... The bigger companies who are longer established don't put out the numbers MHP does, but they are more conservative and know how to tune the engine to unlock the power without jeopardizing reliability.
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
05-09-2012, 11:28 PM
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05-09-2012, 11:30 PM
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Obviously by the numbers MHP is a very aggressive tune... The bigger companies who are longer established don't put out the numbers MHP does, but they are more conservative and know how to tune the engine to unlock the power without jeopardizing reliability.
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
05-09-2012, 11:43 PM
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05-09-2012, 11:49 PM
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05-09-2012, 11:49 PM
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Rest assured I am not in the car or tuning business at all. If you want verification I can send you a picture of my badge (I am in the medical field). I usual lurk on the internet boards as to avoid what I have seen members on member attacks. I am just trying to educated people who are thinking of a tune, to really think about who they are using and not to focus on who's tune makes 10-15 hp more or less.
05-09-2012, 11:58 PM
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Yes I am Andy.... You caught me....
Rest assured I am not in the car or tuning business at all. If you want verification I can send you a picture of my badge (I am in the medical field). I usual lurk on the internet boards as to avoid what I have seen members on member attacks. I am just trying to educated people who are thinking of a tune, to really think about who they are using and not to focus on who's tune makes 10-15 hp more or less.
Rest assured I am not in the car or tuning business at all. If you want verification I can send you a picture of my badge (I am in the medical field). I usual lurk on the internet boards as to avoid what I have seen members on member attacks. I am just trying to educated people who are thinking of a tune, to really think about who they are using and not to focus on who's tune makes 10-15 hp more or less.
05-09-2012, 11:59 PM
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Yes I am Andy.... You caught me....
Rest assured I am not in the car or tuning business at all. If you want verification I can send you a picture of my badge (I am in the medical field). I usual lurk on the internet boards as to avoid what I have seen members on member attacks. I am just trying to educated people who are thinking of a tune, to really think about who they are using and not to focus on who's tune makes 10-15 hp more or less.
Rest assured I am not in the car or tuning business at all. If you want verification I can send you a picture of my badge (I am in the medical field). I usual lurk on the internet boards as to avoid what I have seen members on member attacks. I am just trying to educated people who are thinking of a tune, to really think about who they are using and not to focus on who's tune makes 10-15 hp more or less.
05-10-2012, 12:01 AM
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05-10-2012, 10:58 AM
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My wife saying your brother is gay is really gay? You guys have really mastered the English language.
I dont know whats more gay... you and your brothers matching red AMG's or my 60-130 comp with Jon. Ill have to get back to you on that one.. Both pretty gay though I agree...
Edit Awwww... on suspension.... does that mean he cant reply? Crap...
05-10-2012, 12:32 PM
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Obviously by the numbers MHP is a very aggressive tune... The bigger companies who are longer established don't put out the numbers MHP does, but they are more conservative and know how to tune the engine to unlock the power without jeopardizing reliability.
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
For example if one the larger ones made a new tune say on the new CLS that blew the turbos up after a few thousand miles, I am sure they would correct the issue for the customer and release a new tune. If they didn't no one would do business with them anymore. As the larger company who realizes on reputation rather than MHP who is trying to run on getting the most power out of a tune. MHP just seems like a spur of the moment tuner. And the reputation isn't great, they have been banned here and on BMW forums ect.
And I don't know but I would guess MHP couldn't handle a $30k lawsuit that a bigger longer established tuner could...
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05-10-2012, 04:00 PM
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I've been out of town on business and just got back in. Read a couple of posts recently that gave me a headache and I can't get that hour of my life back. 
I agree that Mike has done some amazing things with his car. The tune is a big part of it and its running great after 30,000 miles and so is mine.
Mike, I think you are a stand up guy that loves to race and be on the winning team. Having MHP parts on your car is just a part of that. I, like you, want to get all I can out of the car and MHP/Andy has helped.
I will say this one time and many will read it and either attack me, call me gay, and everywhere in between or possibly agree with me. I know that I have been dealing with Andy for over three years through tuning challenges, head upgrades, cam challenges, exhaust upgrades etc..... and never had a bad experience. Its not all gone as planned but I understand that and accept that as part of racing and being on the cutting edge with these cars. I will tell you that Andy knows more about these engines than most of us and I don't say that lightly. He does know this platform.
I know some will call me a poster child for MHP and thats fine, I can deal with it. I'm not sure how many of you that attack Andy have actually met him. He's been to Florida for Festivals of Speed, hung out with my family and I, and most recently was here when they did the cam tune. He's always been up front with me and wants to help this platform(M156) go faster.
He is not a tuner, never claimed to be. He's always had someone else do his tunes and most of us knew that. However, he always wanted the best tune and managed to get it.
1. He had an experienced professional outfit design his LT headers that generate a high rate of HP and torque.
2. He also had an experienced engine builder design and build his cams that now work and add significant HP to an already good design.
3. His heads were done by the same engine builder and they also perform excellent.
Andy is constantly looking for ways to get more power out of this platform and has been the first to offer some of the best products on the market.
I hear of your horror stories about some of your experiences with Andy and honestly I struggle to accept some of them becauise I think some of you just love to hate Andy. I'm truly sorry if you are being honest and had a bad experience. I hate bad business because I run my own.
All that being said, I would say to you who hate Andy and like to attack him, spend some time with him. He's a nice guy and will help you if at all possible. Ya'll say what you want and attack me but I felt like I should add a side to Andy that many don't hear or see.
BTW, this is NOT Andy.
Ya'll be safe and Mike I don't think you are a fanboy, just a satisfied customer that has had a good experience with MHP/Andy.
I agree that Mike has done some amazing things with his car. The tune is a big part of it and its running great after 30,000 miles and so is mine.
Mike, I think you are a stand up guy that loves to race and be on the winning team.
Having MHP parts on your car is just a part of that. I, like you, want to get all I can out of the car and MHP/Andy has helped. I will say this one time and many will read it and either attack me, call me gay, and everywhere in between or possibly agree with me. I know that I have been dealing with Andy for over three years through tuning challenges, head upgrades, cam challenges, exhaust upgrades etc..... and never had a bad experience. Its not all gone as planned but I understand that and accept that as part of racing and being on the cutting edge with these cars. I will tell you that Andy knows more about these engines than most of us and I don't say that lightly. He does know this platform.
I know some will call me a poster child for MHP and thats fine, I can deal with it. I'm not sure how many of you that attack Andy have actually met him. He's been to Florida for Festivals of Speed, hung out with my family and I, and most recently was here when they did the cam tune. He's always been up front with me and wants to help this platform(M156) go faster.
He is not a tuner, never claimed to be. He's always had someone else do his tunes and most of us knew that. However, he always wanted the best tune and managed to get it.
1. He had an experienced professional outfit design his LT headers that generate a high rate of HP and torque.
2. He also had an experienced engine builder design and build his cams that now work and add significant HP to an already good design.
3. His heads were done by the same engine builder and they also perform excellent.
Andy is constantly looking for ways to get more power out of this platform and has been the first to offer some of the best products on the market.
I hear of your horror stories about some of your experiences with Andy and honestly I struggle to accept some of them becauise I think some of you just love to hate Andy. I'm truly sorry if you are being honest and had a bad experience. I hate bad business because I run my own.
All that being said, I would say to you who hate Andy and like to attack him, spend some time with him. He's a nice guy and will help you if at all possible. Ya'll say what you want and attack me but I felt like I should add a side to Andy that many don't hear or see.
BTW, this is NOT Andy.
Ya'll be safe and Mike I don't think you are a fanboy, just a satisfied customer that has had a good experience with MHP/Andy.
