SLS Qatar

Nice gains btw. was your tune Custome or canned?

SLS Qatar

Thats the whole point. we never had a real test between the two

supposedly if you had the same matching tunes with the two diffrent C63 headers, then we can all know which is the best set-up.

Personally, I strongly believ the try-yi from MBH is more powerful.

everybody is entitled to thier opinion

propain

I agree as long as its stated as opinion and not fact. Your opinion seemed to be quite conclusive based on elements that have no parity.

BAD430BENZ

now it does with the v3 , which i would not think is considered a "moderate canned tune" . a moderate canned tune would be Kleeman or anything v1 or maybe v2 . anything v3 would be more aggresive than a moderate tune . your brother claimed he hadn't seen lower than 461 and i should him that there was lower with a moderate tune .

maybe someone can chime in and tell me i'm wrong

SLS Qatar

Fair enough. But I don't like claims that MHP headers are better than MBH. All the track results from the 1/4 mile achieved by MHP customers were achieved by running more aggressive tunes designed for 1/4 mile drag. Explain to me how petroC63 got a best of 11.24s after a revised tune + a custom tune. Couldn't he have done the same while he was still running the MBH headers?

Personally I believe he would have made better track results.

propain

I am not sure on this. I believe he should chime in to be 100% accurate.

From my memory he ran MBH headers with a revised tune and his best time was 11.4

Then later he switched to the MHP headers at got the 11.2 on the same tune. I might be mistaken though.

SLS Qatar

i'll save you the trouble and chim in. The 431whp was done on a mustang dyno as the owner stated, which is a very low reading dyno.

In the end with a dyno jet he made 471rwhp. Now let me ask you a question since you are running the MHP headers. Can you show us your dynosheets if you have ever conducted when your C63 was NA?

SLS Qatar

I believe that is not correct. His 11.4 was with his previous MHP v3 (techtec) tune. He then switched headers and recieved the revised matched header tune and made 11.29. After the custom tune, he made 11.24 (best)

keep in mind the previous tune that he had with MHP was not a match for his MBH.


I like Petro'c C63 it is an absolute monster

propain

Mustangs do read low... or more accurate.



So many variables though to consider. My tune only C63 made 447whp on a dynojet.

SLS Qatar

thats because you have Jeremey's tune (OE). which i believe is better than MHP and you proved it on the track.

Jeremy ran 11.1 @ MIR runing with a diffrent try-yi headers (gintani), runing @ full weight. (talk about same track & condition), oh and it wasnt a race tune :-)


When is the last time a C63 ran 11.1 with Header+tune runing full weight?

Jeremy has a customer in Qatar running with his mods. Trust me, no AMG messes with him


Imagine someone runing the MBH headers with an OE matched tune and runing @ MIR. Now that is something we all would like to see :-)

propain

I believe Hagi runs MHP headers with an OE tune at full weight. Except for the hood and trunk and he is almost running a 10.99. A good test would be to switch to MBH headers for him and see if he picks up anything.

The conditions must be consistent though. Same DA and track.

SLS Qatar

to switch and match the tune with the headers

BAD430BENZ

i can't remember if i posted them on here or not but i did explain the situation . i have only had 1 dyno run and it was for a commercial for a speed shop here in El Paso . it was a half *** run just for the commercial with 1 small little fan in 90 degree weather . it only did 458/423 and i never went back for another run . me personally , i couldn't care less what my dyno run showed cuz i knew it had plenty more in it .

i know there's a video of me running a 474whp m3 from 50mph and he pulled me by about a car or 2 . he also got the jump on me , which you can hear in the video .

here's the video of me and the m3

propain

Does Jeremy have a matching tune for the MBH header?

SLS Qatar

I know that you have the MHP headers. Did you have the MHP tune as well?

an M3 beating you. I am actually shocked that this M3 has beaten you

SLS Qatar

why do you ask?

If he doesn't, I'm sure he can make it happen

propain

Im sure he could. Im curious... but it seems like a lot of effort to prove a point though. Gotta be something in it for someone if one comes out over the other.

SLS Qatar

Well that's the thing, no one has done it yet

BAD430BENZ

this was with the old MHP (Techtec) tune and before the headers were on . this M3 did 474whp and i know cuz he is a good friend of mine that moved to Dallas . his car has the VF supercharger and other bolt-ons . i never got to run him with the headers cuz he moved .

SLS Qatar

ok my bad, that explains it . Because that M3 seemed to have beaten your C63 pretty bad .

BAD430BENZ

yeah...he pulled on me by a couple of cars . i really wanted to race him after the headers were installed to see the difference but no luck

propain

Its all pretty close in the end. As long as you have an aggressive tuner and a header you will see results that are pretty close to one aother.

In the end and back to parity instead of points of parity which are very hard to come by you go with differentiation. Choose a company that you feel will work best for you and that is different than all the rest for whatever reasons you like.


One of the tests I would like to do is getting a tune only C63 with a race file on it and shave some weight and see how close I can get it to the full exhaust builds of others. I bet it would be pretty close.

SLS Qatar

+1

I finally agree with what you said

c32AMG-DTM

Turn into? Surely you jest. This started as another "I hate MHP" thread, and has been rolling since.

It is what it is.

SLS Qatar

actually the thread is about a user selling MHP LT headers + mids+ race exhaust. If you think it's about "I hate MHP" well then you are drawing your own conclusion