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Old 05-24-2012, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
Is that with installation? Damn that is high? Are the cams a pain to install on the 6.2?


Cams in the Z06 are $1500 installed WITH a tune.
Thats without the install.

I thought the Z06 only had one cam?
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Originally Posted by propain
Is that with installation? Damn that is high? Are the cams a pain to install on the 6.2?


Cams in the Z06 are $1500 installed WITH a tune.
Damn 8k is alot for cams.

Z06's sound f***ing sick with cams.
Jim, I have a good feeling the mod bug is tapping you on the shoulder about your Z06.
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Damn 8k is alot for cams.

Z06's sound f***ing sick with cams.
Jim, I have a good feeling the mod bug is tapping you on the shoulder about your Z06.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUFM...eature=related

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Originally Posted by propain
This is my mod list...

Forged 4340 crankshaft
Forged H-beam rods
Forged 2618 pistons
DLC pins
Rings
Piston squirters
Rod bearings
Main bearings
Head studs
C5-R timing chain
Whipple supercharger 2.9l
Lol never mind.
Wow, bet that car is "**** in your pants" fast!!
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Originally Posted by jacob502
Thats without the install.

I thought the Z06 only had one cam?
Yes sir.
Single cam push rod engine.

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Hello Keith,
My SL63 dyoed over 600 RWHP with the Weistec stage 1+. didnt you see my thread?

I apologize, I thought you had the L/T headers etc....
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Lol never mind.
Wow, bet that car is "**** in your pants" fast!!
I hope so...

It will be about 740 whp. Thats without the Cam or CAI or exhaust work. Pure boost.
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Yes sir.
SOHC push rod engine.
The cam is not OverHead.

Hell, Cams for my Honda B series are $350 and I can install them myself! lol
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Originally Posted by propain
I hope so...

It will be about 740 whp. Thats without the Cam or CAI or exhaust work. Pure boost.
Nice!! Looking forward to more updates.

Originally Posted by b16
The cam is not OverHead.

Hell, Cams for my Honda B series are $350 and I can install them myself! lol
Your right!
Thanks for the correction.
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I apologize, I thought you had the L/T headers etc....

No need to apologise brother. We all get mixed up once in a while. So many Damn Dyno sheets

By the way, I have not seen you posting in a while. Did you get your misfire sorted out?
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G'Day from Australia.
OK, so we're talking 30-40 HP from a camshaft alone?....Does ECU have to be remapped to get that?
Has anyone got a graph of before/after power/torque results after a camshaft upgrade, because I would like to see where (RPM) precisely that amout of extra power is available.
Obviously, I'm not querying the power increase, because the quoted increase is entirely realistic considering the size & design of this engine....I would just like to know, and see on a graph, where the increase starts to occur.
Cheers, Pickles.

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Last I checked, this is a forum!

you have squeezed yourself previously in my discussions.I never complained. So live with it
Understood obviously but still i want his opinion.
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Originally Posted by Pickles
G'Day from Australia.
OK, so we're talking 30-40 HP from a camshaft alone?....Does ECU have to be remapped to get that?
Has anyone got a graph of before/after power/torque results after a camshaft upgrade, because I would like to see where (RPM) precisely that amout of extra power is available.
Obviously, I'm not querying the power increase, because the quoted increase is entirely realistic considering the size & design of this engine....I would just like to know, and see on a graph, where the increase starts to occur.
Cheers, Pickles.
Yes you would need a remap for sure. Lift and duration are changed.

Agreed a dyno showing the power profile stock tuned vs cams tuned would be nice.
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My 1/8 mile went up almost 2 miles an hour consistantly in worse weather. Have more logging to do to get the tune perfect should be couple weeks every tuesday has rained here for the past 6 weeks
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Originally Posted by jacob502
You can currently get the Kleeman camshafts, but I dont know if they have a tune for it. I also know Renntech have already tested and tuned camshafts for the M156.
Didn't know Kleemann had M156 camshafts - that's good to know.

With respect to the Renntech M156 option that they tested, vs. what MHP offers... it's apples and oranges, as I understand it (and no, the source was not Andy or one of his customers). Just FWIW.
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My 1/8 mile went up almost 2 miles an hour consistantly in worse weather. Have more logging to do to get the tune perfect should be couple weeks every tuesday has rained here for the past 6 weeks
You sig appears to need an update...?
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You sig appears to need an update...?
Soon i have a feeling but the 10.66 stands so far with the mods listed so... till tgat goes down itll stay as is
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There are some dyno graphs on Pages 7-9.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...od-cams-7.html

No loss of torque down low!
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Originally Posted by propain
This is my mod list...

Forged 4340 crankshaft
Forged H-beam rods
Forged 2618 pistons
DLC pins
Rings
Piston squirters
Rod bearings
Main bearings
Head studs
C5-R timing chain
Whipple supercharger 2.9l
Nice!!! I'm thinking about a c6z
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Damn 8k is alot for cams.

Z06's sound f***ing sick with cams.
Jim, I have a good feeling the mod bug is tapping you on the shoulder about your Z06.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUFM...eature=related
I want my C63 to sound like that. One can dream.
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Can you tell me how you see that cause i have trouble with it? Not saying your wrong. Just asking.

Stage 1+, 672 Horsepower, 662 ft-lb of Torque. $15k


Or 30-50rwhp amd 17rwtq for 8k..

Personally, I'd take the blower any day. If your spending 8k you're pot committed, might as well double down and go all the way??
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Originally Posted by propain
Is that with installation? Damn that is high? Are the cams a pain to install on the 6.2?


Cams in the Z06 are $1500 installed WITH a tune.
You need special tools to install the cams (4) in the m156. It's a PIA my tech told me. The cam adjusters have to be held in place, timing chains, etc,
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You need special tools to install the cams (4) in the m156. It's a PIA my tech told me. The cam adjusters have to be held in place, timing chains, etc,
Straight forward easy instal did it myself,.
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Originally Posted by Merc63
You need special tools to install the cams (4) in the m156. It's a PIA my tech told me. The cam adjusters have to be held in place, timing chains, etc,
I have been going over the instructions of adding and removing and it's not that difficult. Tool can be found online. A lot of techs get nervous with cars that have variable Cam timing.
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Straight forward easy instal did it myself,.
That's hardcore.


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