platinumsc

I've been buying aftermarket wheels over 25 years. Even the cheapest wheel does not need road force balancing unless it is out of round...or the tires are.
A high cost wheel like ADV1 SHOULD NOT NEED TO BE ROAD FORCE BALANCED. Period!
The Hunter balance machines are the most popular and accurate. But even an older machine with an experienced tech can balance correctly.
The modern Hunters are amazing in that they do all the work. As long as they are calibrated reguarly, they are 100% on point.

Something is wrong with those wheels. Bottom line.

natman316

well, looking on the other side they do have those machines for a reason, and I think being a 3 piece wheel might play a part? IDK. I'm not trying to defend my purchase or anything I want to give it one more try. Matt@ ADV1 has been nothing but extremely helpful and responsive to my situation. He contacted me right when I posted this thread.

He did confirm they passed their "qc", so I will just try and road force balance these. If it doesnt work out I will inform them and they can hopefully give me a refund or compensate some how.

hyperion667

wow....very intersting.....ADV is so expensive......guess this was a fluke of some sort?


good luck OP

thewb

This isn't our sale nor do we have anything to do with this deal, but when you post wrong info like this i have to say something. Complete false we sell the best wheels in the world from Volk, BBS, HRE ETC . The whole point of road forcing is to match the tire and wheel up perfectly. Every wheel and tire combo should be road forced, you do this to ensure perfection. Maybe the wheel isn't bad and most time it is the tires, especially cheaper low end tires. By saying a wheel doesn't have to be road forced makes no sense as a wheel by its self doesn't get road force the wheel and tire assembly does. So OP have you road forced your wheels? It's the easiest solution. If you were in my area i'd do it for free to help you out. Best of luck

natman316

thanks wheel botique, I have been very busy traveling these past couple of days so I havent had the time. I will try to do it in the next week for sure and report back.

As for tires I have michellin PSS which I believe to be pretty good based on reviews on this website

platinumsc

I don't care who you are and what your deal is. I have been doing this a long time. I needed road force balance only once in the 20-something wheels I've bought. That was a bad wheel.
If the wheel is right, no need for road force. Not with the modern balance machines especially.

Mischievous M

Those are pretty gorgeous wheels man... pardon for not skimming through the entire thread but did you go for 18 or 19? I'm torn between the decision of keeping my OEM AMG multispokes and a set of 19" 8.5 / 10 HRE 590RS

daddyo

Seriously? Stop drinking the Cool-Aid and read some of those links on the previous page.

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Rsquad911

Don't come onto our board to be a troll... Your total post count of 8 is all towards bashing ADVs.

Is that why you made an account? To do this? Gezzzzz. Get a life.

You need to stop drinking the

daddyo

First, you need to know the definition of a troll on a board. A troll would be here bashing MB's and saying Audi's or BMW's are much better cars.

I'm here to warn you guys, but OBVIOUSLY, you MB guys know much more about wheels that the many other boards who have had issues with them. Now that's borderline trolling.

You love the ADV, go right ahead and spend your thousands one them. No skin off my head, but you've been warned.
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natman316

Ok guys, I have bad news

Got my wheels road forced balanced at the dealer....still vibrates. Very very disapointed.

Hopefully ADV will correct this, matt has been great to work with and he has already refunded me for the leak repair.

radride

The run out is screwed on them aka they are garbage. Get your money back and buy something else. Its not uncommon for these wheels to have this problem. Goodluck.

R.K.

noodleman

wow, that sucks to hear they were nice looking wheels too!

Guilty

Return them, they're too small anyway lol

LegitLifeStyle

What did the report your dealer gave you say? Which wheel wasn't properly balancing?

Roswell

Dang sorry to hear natman... I hope they will work with you on a solution & not the start of a nightmare.

Keep us posted on the resolution.

natman316

Here is the result. I dont really know how to read them though so if you guys could educate me it would be great!


I'm starting to want to return them now

Although I like the size, I like the extra rim protection, ride comfort and handling benefits thicker tires give you.

Hope so! and I will do

hyperion667

man.......they should give your money back!!!
I woyuld be flipping out man, good luck.....
get some HRE's next time.....
they made some rear for me and I didn't like them, so they made two more, and shipped them overnight to me..........I will never buy a different wheel again


hope it works out for you

LegitLifeStyle

I know i'm the "ADV.1 fanboy" and everything but my understanding is that "balanced" wheels should runout below .26 and all your values are under that? ie... the wheels are balanced?

natman316

thats what matt told me, he asked me to measure the center bore now, which I will do when I have time.

I did notice the one value is very close to the "limit" of .26 though, could that be the issue? its got a huge variation from the other wheels. I swear it is still vibrating, I even made sure to take it out again and it wasnt just in my head or something. I toasted my old tires so I couldnt put on my stock wheels and tried it to compare.

noodleman

i guess the question is where is the vibration coming from? is it the right rear? Hope you get a speeding resolution with the guys at Adv1!

platinumsc

I wouldn't waste time trying to figure out why the wheels aren't balancing. That's not the customers job. The customer pays his money and should receive a working product. Period.

I knew road force balancing wouldn't change a thing. A bad wheel is a bad wheel.
Those don't look that good anyway. They are too darn small.

LegitLifeStyle

A bad wheel is a bad wheel period? Even when he posts up runout tests that prove the wheels are balanced and not the issue? Really? Just proves how much biased haterade some people have against a company regardless of FACTS provided.

What about the other half of the equation - a tire being defective? No one is jumping on Pirelli's (or whatever tires you got) nuts or even allowing that to be a potential part of the issue.

I mean i'm all for the OP getting his **** sorted out but from what it looks like thus far the wheels are balanced and as such the wheels themselves aren't causing the vibration. I suppose it could still be a wheel problem with the centerbore as the OP was told to check.

Natman - Did the dealer you went to say anything to you? I'm assuming if they came back with issues and they wouldn't balance correctly the service manager would've alerted you? Normally dealers don't let their customers drive off the lot if their wheels are dangerous and won't balance without telling the customer about the issue.

natman316

I have Michellin PSS, bought brand new off of tire rack. So, if the wheels are technically in balance, then the tires cant be faulty too? (since the runout for that is for the wheel and tire assembly)

I'm still wondering if the vibration is coming because of the variation? for example the front ones are real close to each other and the back ones are not. I dont know much about balancing wheels so I'm just guessing.

anyways, I will measure the center bore when I have time and update.

If anyone has any other ideas as to why my steering wheel vibrates when I go past 80-90mph, please post here so I can narrow down the possibilities.

thank you all for your help and interest

hyperion667