mbuna

I'm thinking of getting c63. Right now a local dealer has several 2011 available.
One of them has just 1000 km and asking $61900.00 Cad. However it does not have the AMG performance package. Another 2011 with the performance package and 5500 km is priced at $63800.00. According to the dealer they have the last 2012 c63 available in BC. It's pretty well fully optioned and they are asking $83105.00 Cad before sales tax but it comes with 1.4% financing for 60 months. If you include payment waiver for the first three month the effective rate drops to 0.68%. Is 2012 c63 that much better than 2011c63? Is it worth the price difference? Also is 30 hp difference noticeable for normal street driving?

Mischievous M

I've not had the luxury of owning a 2008 - 2011 and can't honestly comment but i reckon if you plan to mod up your ride i'd go with either the $61k or $63k option. Unfortunately in Brunei there are only a handful of C63s that are 2008 productions, most of with either accident or poor service track records that had made decided on biting the bullet to purchase a new vehicle.

I'd hate to admit it but i was heart wrenching to sell off my R35 GTR and 2010 VW GTI but i had to be realistic. I'm happy with my sacrifice because I'm able to take family and friends out in the comfort of an estate, able to enjoy spirited driving when i have the urge, lug my diving / gym gear and most of all debt free from a cash purchase that will be an indefinite "sheer driving pleasure" everyday. - sorry for stealing the punch line BMW.

The US and Canada have awesome enthusiasts and tuning support that will be able to provide you with recommendations to meet your desire. Honestly speaking no matter what you decide on the C63s will put a smile on your face constantly regardless AMG Performance or not!

Let us know how you go and good luck.

splinter

It’s probably best to pay with inexpensive cash up front, and then have your accountant legitimately deduct its accelerated depreciation.
Or, order a ’13 to your exact specifications utilizing a similar strategy.

gthal

Deduct accelerated depreciation? How have you concluded he is able to claim any deductions? Unless he is using the car for business purposes, there would be no deductions available. The rules in Canada don't mirror the US

To the OP... I think the changes in 2012 to the interior and the transmission are meaningful. The performance package, in Canada, also adds the LSD and upgraded brakes in addition to the extra power. The LSD is important, IMO, on this car given its power. If it is affordable, I would go 2012.

4ramin

This is just my opinion the pre 21012 looks a 1000x better , and I hate the new BMW like dash . As for the trans my buddy at the dealer is not very impressed with it as he said they had more issues with the new tranny then they ever had with the old one. New is not always better. But at the end everyone will have their own opinion so do what makes you happy and in my opinion you can never put a price on that. Best of luck with your buy and keep us posted on what you went for. They are both great cars

bmoney12

+1....I'd go with the 2012. I made the switch a few months back from a 2010 to a 2012 and theres a pretty big difference in my opinion. The tranny, interior and suspension changes are major improvements over the preface lifted model.

gthal

I agree that looks are subjective. I think the pre-2012 interior looks very dated and cheaper but that's just me. The updated interior is WAY better than a BMW interior (please don't insult the car by comparing ). I also think the lines flow better on 2012s but, again, very subjective and that is also largely because I like the look of a coupe.

I'm not going to suggest the MCT tranny is more reliable (although there have been few reported issues) but it is absolutely a better transmission from a performance perspective. It is faster shifting and noticeably more responsive. There is no way to argue that. It may prove to be less reliable over time... we will have to see... but it is a higher performing transmission. If the MCT would not have been available, I would have had a really hard time going from the DCT in the M3 to the regular auto in pre-2012 cars. I found it very sluggish and it felt like a regular auto. The new MCT is not as good as a true dual clutch but is is much closer in responsiveness and feel. So, in this case, new is absolutely better IMO.

Again, the "improvements" for 2012 will have more or less value to each person and for some, they would choose to buy a used car to save the $$ and not care about the changes.

flomofo

New interior is comparable to the E-Class Mercedes where it actually came from (design), not sure how BMW came up...

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

I would go 2012 on the interior alone. Material quality still isn't on the level of an E but it's light years better than the older one which IMO is substandard.

Commence butthurt!!

Patrick B

I've been having the same debate recently as well, as I was initially looking at a C63 (2011) sedan back in March. I chose to go a completely different route (Range Rover Sport SC), but I'm now back in the hunt for a C63.

I've looked at several 2011's, but honestly, the interior between the '11s and the new '12s is night and day. The new interior is significantly better (IMHO), and the new MCT transmission is probably the one to get (if reliability is an issue, well, the warranty will cover that for 4 years / 80K).

The big debate that I'm personally having right now is whether to pull the trigger on the '12 C63 Coupe that I've been looking at. We don't need two gas-guzzling SUVs in our family (actually, my wife's X6 isn't that hard on gas...my RRS is, however), so I figure I'll 'downsize' one of the cars to a C63 Coupe. Still be hard on gas....but more fun to drive than the RRS.

Back on topic, one of the things that I'm hesitant about is the interior, and this is where the '12 has sold itself well. Range Rover has some of the best looking interiors in the business.....and it was noticeably nicer than the interior on the few 2011's I looked at.

While the '12 isn't quite up to the same spec as Range Rover (no leather dash, no heated steering wheel, HVAC controls aren't as nice, no fridge), it's definitely a good step forward from previous years.

And some of the features are infinitely better (bluetooth audio plus DVD video playback....and a better NAV system than the Range Rover version).

I'd definitely go for the 2012. Inside is where you spend your time....need it to be as enjoyable as ever.



Patrick

flomofo

I think you made your decision lol

mbuna

I went to test drive both 2011 and 2012. When I got to the dealership, I was informed that the 2012 was sold. I test drove a white 2011 and found the car entertaining to drive. Even though I told the salesman that I was not too keen on a white car, he tried unsuccessfully to convince me to buy it. Next day I got a call from him saying that the deal for the 2012 fell through due to financing issue. I said sure I would take a look next day. He told me that I would have to provide my visa so that he could bring in the car for me to inspect. When I objected by saying that we would have to agree on the price before I gave him my visa, he said they don't discount AMG and besides I was getting a payment waver of $1950.00. When I said I wasn't interested he came back with $3000.00 reduction in price so I said ok I will take a look next day. The car was black with black and red interior with 19 inch wheels. Nice but I told the salesman what I would be interested in getting was a silver car with black interior. He tried very hard to convince me that black with red trim was much more desirable than solid black. I stood firm and probably exasperated, the salesman asked me what he could do to convince me to buy the car. I still kept quiet and he brought the sales manager out. The manager also asked me what he could do convince me and when I kept quiet, he said how about $5000.00 discount? I asked if that includes the monthly payment waiver of $1950.00 and he said no because I am getting a large discount. I said again that I would prefer a silver car and he asked me what else he could do to get me to buy the car. I said make the monthly payment less than $1500.00 and include the payment waiver. He said he would have to check with the regional manager and 5 minutes later he said I had the deal. In summary I got $6000.00 discount and a payment waiver of $1950.00 which reduced the effective rate to 0.6% from 1.4% for 60 months.
So don't believe them if they tell you that they don't discount AMG and at least in Canada you should be able to get $5000.00 discount. So now I have a brand new C63 which happens to first time I haven't bought a car with manual transmision for my self. Downside is we now have 2 black Mercedes in the family. One more thing, I checked out M3 but in Canada a equivalent M3 is about $8000.00 more. So in that Car and Driver test of C63 vs M3, C63 would have won if they held the test in Canada.

Pickles

Ha ha ha.....Well done mate.....you did well.
Any pics?...Enjoy.
Cheers, Pickles.

rory breaker

Great story and very well played!!

Paculdo

nice!!!

oggie

Pictures....

King Cobra

Congrats, did u purchase your car at Vancouver boundary dealer? Enjoy your ride.

Rsquad911

Good job and congrats!!!!

I got about $6000 off my brand new 2012 C63 when I ordered it in March 2011.

Canadian too =O)

Thrilla

Congratulations and great story! 1point for the consumer.

Guilty

Congrats, I wish I did the same with my car lol

mbuna

Enjoy!

Pickles

Nice car, nice options, nice deal.
Well done, Pickles.

Rock

Guilty, I think you better become friends with CH.

OP, congrats on a beautiful car.

mbuna

This sucks. Just 2 weeks after I purchased my car Mercedes Canada is having a clearance sale. $7500.00 off and 0% financing for 60 months. Other than that love my car. I drive it with a window open just so that I can listen to my exhaust sound.

brooklync63

Love that interior. Very nice color combination!