Turbo C63?
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Building the turbo set up would not be the hard part. Making it function in the manner in which it was built for is the entire problem. The tranny has torque limitations etc... that will hold back all the hard work you performed. Ask Weistec how difficult it is to overcome the ECU/TCU problems when the power levels get to a certain point.
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I can tell you the hold up - TUNING!
Building the turbo set up would not be the hard part. Making it function in the manner in which it was built for is the entire problem. The tranny has torque limitations etc... that will hold back all the hard work you performed. Ask Weistec how difficult it is to overcome the ECU/TCU problems when the power levels get to a certain point.
Building the turbo set up would not be the hard part. Making it function in the manner in which it was built for is the entire problem. The tranny has torque limitations etc... that will hold back all the hard work you performed. Ask Weistec how difficult it is to overcome the ECU/TCU problems when the power levels get to a certain point.
Wish we had access to the tuning software so the community could figure it out.
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I would take it a step further and make it into a low compression motor build.
I would take it a step further and make it into a low compression motor build.
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I can tell you the hold up - TUNING!
Building the turbo set up would not be the hard part. Making it function in the manner in which it was built for is the entire problem. The tranny has torque limitations etc... that will hold back all the hard work you performed. Ask Weistec how difficult it is to overcome the ECU/TCU problems when the power levels get to a certain point.
Building the turbo set up would not be the hard part. Making it function in the manner in which it was built for is the entire problem. The tranny has torque limitations etc... that will hold back all the hard work you performed. Ask Weistec how difficult it is to overcome the ECU/TCU problems when the power levels get to a certain point.
Fitting it under the hood too. I dont think there is any room for it. Rear mount would be the way to go but it would require a lot of plumbing.
What do you think Keith? You are the C63 guru in my opinion. Do you think you could squeeze it under the bonnet or no?
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I'm not sure why you want to go turbo charged with the amount of power some options are already offering. Just more R&D with no better results. What level of power are you wanting and at what cost?? The new "E" and possibly "C" will have the 5.5TT so why would someone go through the R&D when the new car already has it?? Thats the question you would have to ask yourself.
You can already have over 500rwhp with heads, cams, exhaust, and tune.
You can have over 700-800rwhp with a complete Weistec set up.
What more do you want? How fast do you want to go? Quicker 1/4 mile or street racer?
The limiting factors are the tranny/converter and tuning. We are limited with a 2500 stall converter from Weistec so the 1/4 mile short times are challenging.
With the higher power levels the tranny won't shift in auto mode so you must use manual. I guess my question is why not go with a different platform if you want more speed or quickness because when you go much further than Earl, Jim, Mike, and some others have gone you'll have a mustang/corvette set up on a MB and thats not right. Enjoy your cars for what they are.
You can already have over 500rwhp with heads, cams, exhaust, and tune.
You can have over 700-800rwhp with a complete Weistec set up.
What more do you want? How fast do you want to go? Quicker 1/4 mile or street racer?
The limiting factors are the tranny/converter and tuning. We are limited with a 2500 stall converter from Weistec so the 1/4 mile short times are challenging.
With the higher power levels the tranny won't shift in auto mode so you must use manual. I guess my question is why not go with a different platform if you want more speed or quickness because when you go much further than Earl, Jim, Mike, and some others have gone you'll have a mustang/corvette set up on a MB and thats not right. Enjoy your cars for what they are.
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I'm not sure why you want to go turbo charged with the amount of power some options are already offering. Just more R&D with no better results. What level of power are you wanting and at what cost?? The new "E" and possibly "C" will have the 5.5TT so why would someone go through the R&D when the new car already has it?? Thats the question you would have to ask yourself.
You can already have over 500rwhp with heads, cams, exhaust, and tune.
You can have over 700-800rwhp with a complete Weistec set up.
What more do you want? How fast do you want to go? Quicker 1/4 mile or street racer?
The limiting factors are the tranny/converter and tuning. We are limited with a 2500 stall converter from Weistec so the 1/4 mile short times are challenging.
With the higher power levels the tranny won't shift in auto mode so you must use manual. I guess my question is why not go with a different platform if you want more speed or quickness because when you go much further than Earl, Jim, Mike, and some others have gone you'll have a mustang/corvette set up on a MB and thats not right. Enjoy your cars for what they are.
You can already have over 500rwhp with heads, cams, exhaust, and tune.
You can have over 700-800rwhp with a complete Weistec set up.
What more do you want? How fast do you want to go? Quicker 1/4 mile or street racer?
The limiting factors are the tranny/converter and tuning. We are limited with a 2500 stall converter from Weistec so the 1/4 mile short times are challenging.
With the higher power levels the tranny won't shift in auto mode so you must use manual. I guess my question is why not go with a different platform if you want more speed or quickness because when you go much further than Earl, Jim, Mike, and some others have gone you'll have a mustang/corvette set up on a MB and thats not right. Enjoy your cars for what they are.
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There's 1 advantage that turbo has over the existing setups, power for those that don't live at sea level, and ability to dial in more boost/power on the fly with race gas. The gap between race and pump is quite a bit more with a turbo setup, unless you like to switch up pulleys every time you switch fuels. But ya, engineering that with the C63 wouldn't be easy at all based on space/plumbing.
I blew over $100k on my 944 Turbo back in the day, definately not the most cost effective hp/$ platform to work on lol. Props for the build, any details on it?
I blew over $100k on my 944 Turbo back in the day, definately not the most cost effective hp/$ platform to work on lol. Props for the build, any details on it?
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944 Turbo you say? Check out what my buddy has been doing with his and self tuning/E85 + a turbo swap.
http://evoempire.org/community/index...ect-944-turbo/
http://evoempire.org/community/index...ect-944-turbo/
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There's 1 advantage that turbo has over the existing setups, power for those that don't live at sea level, and ability to dial in more boost/power on the fly with race gas. The gap between race and pump is quite a bit more with a turbo setup, unless you like to switch up pulleys every time you switch fuels. But ya, engineering that with the C63 wouldn't be easy at all based on space/plumbing.
I blew over $100k on my 944 Turbo back in the day, definately not the most cost effective hp/$ platform to work on lol. Props for the build, any details on it?
I blew over $100k on my 944 Turbo back in the day, definately not the most cost effective hp/$ platform to work on lol. Props for the build, any details on it?
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944 Turbo you say? Check out what my buddy has been doing with his and self tuning/E85 + a turbo swap.
http://evoempire.org/community/index...ect-944-turbo/
http://evoempire.org/community/index...ect-944-turbo/
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Here's mine back then, I had a 2.8L big bore block 10 years ago before it became popular:
Don't miss fixing something weekly, the car wasn't really engineered to handle more than 300hp.
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