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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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Thanks man. I'll give them a call. I head down to SoCal a lot as well, so I might just stop by their shop next week.
Neoprufrok, please PM us or feel free to call us anytime. We will be happy to assist. As reference we are installing our Stage 3 supercharger system that retails at $15,780 and all MB World members receive 10% off our products until February 5th. You will have to run a high flow exhaust and we can set you up with this as well. Since you are local, typical installation costs for something like this is about $3,500 ($2,500 for the SC, and $1,000 for the complete long tube header exhaust system).

JRCART will have a few additional modifications such as trunk ice tank, and a few extra coolers and this is something thank can vary in costs. Either way, give us a call and we can discuss more in detail. Thank you!!

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:32 AM
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Slightly OT, but I think relevant with the increased power levels... How much TQ/HP can the MCT handle? What do you guys do hardware wise to raise/revise the limits and could the MCT handle, say, 1000 ft lbs? thx!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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It depends which MCT you are referring to. The 2012 up MCT can handle the power of our Stage 3 system with no issues. MB used many of the internals that are used in the M157 which makes a lot of torque. Anything past the Stage 3 power level (about 769 hp) will need a transmission build.

Cooling is a huge factor for transmission longevity as well. The C Black Series has additional coolers that aid in this department, where as a regular C63 doesn't. Hope this helps.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Weistec
It depends which MCT you are referring to. The 2012 up MCT can handle the power of our Stage 3 system with no issues. MB used many of the internals that are used in the M157 which makes a lot of torque. Anything past the Stage 3 power level (about 769 hp) will need a transmission build.

Cooling is a huge factor for transmission longevity as well. The C Black Series has additional coolers that aid in this department, where as a regular C63 doesn't. Hope this helps.

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Thanks! I have the '12 C63 black series. I checked your website, and as I understand it, your bullet proof 722.9 upgrade would be what I am looking for.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:13 AM
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how much for the stage one supecharger?? to australia?? victoria 3011

also do you have any support shops in australia or melbourne by anychance
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks! I have the '12 C63 black series. I checked your website, and as I understand it, your bullet proof 722.9 upgrade would be what I am looking for.
I do not want to talk you out of from spending money with Weistec but they just said in their above post that your trans can handle up to 769hp. If they say it's 769 then it is 769, that's a whole lot of power. What mods do you have or are you currently planning? My advice stick with your stock trans for now and spend the money on some other Wesitec goodies to inch you closer to that 769hp mark, once you get there then drop the coin on the trans upgrade....that's how I would do it.

FYI, I run the Weistec 722.9 bullet Proof in my CLK BS which now makes over 1000hp and I can verify that it is indeed bullet proof
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I do not want to talk you out of from spending money with Weistec but they just said in their above post that your trans can handle up to 769hp. If they say it's 769 then it is 769, that's a whole lot of power. What mods do you have or are you currently planning? My advice stick with your stock trans for now and spend the money on some other Wesitec goodies to inch you closer to that 769hp mark, once you get there then drop the coin on the trans upgrade....that's how I would do it.

FYI, I run the Weistec 722.9 bullet Proof in my CLK BS which now makes over 1000hp and I can verify that it is indeed bullet proof
Thanks. I'm not sure what mods yet, but some version of FI, if not one of their blowers. I just wanted to know what the upper limits were for the driveline without having to swap in a dedicated transmission.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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Thanks. I'm not sure what mods yet, but some version of FI, if not one of their blowers. I just wanted to know what the upper limits were for the driveline without having to swap in a dedicated transmission.
Sounds good, but just to put it into perspective I don't think they are modding the trans in my C BS and I am going with their 3.0L system. If you have the means right now you should go ahead and get started they are offering some great discounts this month on their website.

Their 2.3L kit is amazing, I ran it for over a year, it offers more HP than most people will ever need, the 3.0L ups the ante a little and has more top end HP potential. To be honest I was just going to go with the 2.3L on the C BS becuase I didn't want the heat related issues that sometimes go along with a blower for road course use but after talking with Steve he said something that makes a lot of sense, he said the 3.0L will actually make less heat in the state of tune they are planning on putting on my car because it does not have to work as hard to make HP, basically it can run at 80% output and make mor eHP than the 2.3L can at 100% output which equates to less work and less heat. I am by no means an expert, they know their stuff, call up and ask to talk with one of them if you have not already. Just tell them what you are looking to accomplish HP/performance wise with your Black Series and they will steer you into the correct set-up. They are not a one trick pony, they have a huge product line now so they can mix and match their stuff to give you exactly what you are looking for. They are not just going to sell you a bunch of stuff and say now you're on your own, they will sell you what you need, no more and no less. This will be my 3rd Weistec blower that I am having installed on the C BS, that has to tell you guys something.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Weistec
It depends which MCT you are referring to. The 2012 up MCT can handle the power of our Stage 3 system with no issues. MB used many of the internals that are used in the M157 which makes a lot of torque. Anything past the Stage 3 power level (about 769 hp) will need a transmission build.

Cooling is a huge factor for transmission longevity as well. The C Black Series has additional coolers that aid in this department, where as a regular C63 doesn't. Hope this helps.

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That's great info to know, how about 2008's what's the most they can handle? Is it possible to do a stage 3 supercharger without doing the works?
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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That's great info to know, how about 2008's what's the most they can handle? Is it possible to do a stage 3 supercharger without doing the works?
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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That's great info to know, how about 2008's what's the most they can handle? Is it possible to do a stage 3 supercharger without doing the works?
I do not know the official answer, hopefully Weistec will chime in, however what I can tell you is from my personel experience I was able to get my 2008 CLK BS up to about 630rwhp with the stock trans. I got to that number with the Weistec 2.3L unit, LT's, cat delete and a race gas tune. I think if you are thinking of going with the 3.0L I would do the trans upgrade....especially the way you launch
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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I do not know the official answer, hopefully Weistec will chime in, however what I can tell you is from my personel experience I was able to get my 2008 CLK BS up to about 630rwhp with the stock trans. I got to that number with the Weistec 2.3L unit, LT's, cat delete and a race gas tune. I think if you are thinking of going with the 3.0L I would do the trans upgrade....especially the way you launch
I would do the 3l and would do the trans also but I wanted to see if I can get away with doing them one at a time. Plus it would be more of a highway car after the blower goes on.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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I would do the 3l and would do the trans also but I wanted to see if I can get away with doing them one at a time. Plus it would be more of a highway car after the blower goes on.
I had the 3.0L on for a while before they developed the trans upgrade. Throw the blower on first and just do the trans if and when it starts to slip.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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That's great info to know, how about 2008's what's the most they can handle? Is it possible to do a stage 3 supercharger without doing the works?
Anything past about 560-580 wheel hp will require a transmission build. Our valve body/TCU upgrade will aid in the longevity at this power level, but this is the maximum power to consistently run. Hope this helps.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Anything past about 560-580 wheel hp will require a transmission build. Our valve body/TCU upgrade will aid in the longevity at this power level, but this is the maximum power to consistently run. Hope this helps.

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So when I do the 3L blower I would need trans upgrade.
Thank u for the info.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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I just heard from Weistec, car got delivered to their facility today. I will keep everyone posted.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Any chance you can get Weistec to do a "C63 Black Supercharged Photo Journal" ? I am sure we would all love to see the process of the build with frequent pic updates.

You know how much we all love to pics of shinny engine parts.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Any chance you can get Weistec to do a "C63 Black Supercharged Photo Journal" ? I am sure we would all love to see the process of the build with frequent pic updates.

You know how much we all love to pics of shinny engine parts.
They are monitoring this thread so maybe they will throw us a few teaser pics every now and then.
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I just heard from Weistec, car got delivered to their facility today. I will keep everyone posted.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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I think Weistec should put a GoPro next to the car on a tripod and do a time lapse video of the install.

Would be great to see.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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Any chance you can get Weistec to do a "C63 Black Supercharged Photo Journal" ? I am sure we would all love to see the process of the build with frequent pic updates.

You know how much we all love to pics of shinny engine parts.
I would definitely be interested!
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