VaclavSV

Read this today... laughed pretty hard!

thread (Curtsey of Faris! .. my mistake guys!)

The guy with the X1 who is posting goes by paradoxical3

deadfission

Post not found :/

Fung63

nothing as well

MagasC63

Hey Valsalva...nothing is there, must be a fake thread. The title doesn't match the link. What's up with that?

Faris63

This thread

MagasC63

Thanks you Faris for helping us out. That thread was funny as heck. now all we need to do is ask Valsalva why his thread came this way. Right Valsalva? J/k

deadfission

That. Was. Hilarious.

bluejae

also this new thread

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...m3-others.html

all together a fun read... he gets them riled up real nice...

so far my fav comment was

"My tuned lawnmower can cut grass faster than yours!!!"

VaclavSV

"Enough straight line speed to beat a Cayenne Turbo or M3 in a straight line with a simple tune. Let's face it - for 99% of people, the most important type of speed is straight line on the road - be it stoplight to stoplight or passing/merging on the highway. The X1 is actually better suited for this kind of driving than even the M3 due to the torque."

... can someone please explain to me how this is possible!? I have yet to be taken off the line by an X1 ... but now Im scared LOL

deadfission

I like that they mention AMGs in the thread but no one disputes trying to beat us in a straight line or, in fact, at all!

xcharlesy

why does everyone think the AMG - M3 battle is so gapped in taking turns? It's totally driver specific as to who would win, and you'd really have to know what you were doing.

Fung63

cause everyone kinda assumes we are all pro drivers lolz

but what you are saying is true... and it is often overlooked. Driver skill has alot to do with everything.. from corners, the shifting to reaching the potential of any car.

i have a feeling the op in the bmw thread beat a couple of M3s... M3s that didnt know they were racing I think I've lost a few of those myself lolz

htoudiee

I agree with you.

It comes down to the torque the X1 or any N55 owner "feels". That's why they "think" it's faster than S65 based M3. It's an interesting test... take someone for a ride in an M3 and a lightly modified N54/N55 and they will tell you that the N54/N55 car "IS" faster... but in reality, it's the over 400 ft lb of torque of the modified N54/N55 they feel. On the other hand however, torque is what makes a car FUN to drive at streets speed. Hence why our C63s are so much fun (In our case, we happen to have the up top power as well where N54/N55 just fall off the cliff at 5000RPM).

I used to have a 335i with N54 and another 335i with N55 and an M3 DCT. None of those in stock form could keep up with my E92 DCT M3 in higher speeds however, they felt faster down low due to more torque on tap. The M3's peak torque was around 3500RPM where peak torque on stock N55 was around 1400 and for N54 around 1800-1900RPM.

rory breaker

You are so right about the instant torque and low end throttle response being very misleading with those motors.

Debated getting an X1 recently. The 35i feels great...it's a quick little car, no doubt about it. With a tune and some pipes I'm sure it's a little utilitarian rocket. But to boast about how fast it is as if it's some kind of race car (which this particular guy has done before in other threads on that site) is lame.

htoudiee

Indeed. N55 picks up torque so easy. Downpipe and a tune and you have over 400 ft. lb easily.

paradoxical3

Lol...have to say I'm shocked some people actually felt the need to cross post my thread not only to the m3 forums, but to the Mercedes forums! But that's fine with me, especially now that I've humiliated plenty of m3s and amgs both on the drag strip and at the mid Ohio road course. If you are ever in Cincinnati let me know and I'll buy you dinner and we can hit the drag strip. But you'd better be modded if you don't want to wind up on YouTube losing to an x1 because I believe my timeslip is faster than the fastest stock c63. Of course, all you modded c63s are much faster than the m3 posers so perhaps you all won't be as scared to race my soccer mom mobile. Timeslot attached.

KIS007

Your post reminded me of a Porsche Driving School I attended years ago run by Derek Bell (5 time winner of Le Mans). I was driving a modified Porsche Turbo and kicking everyone's butt and I thought I was a real badass. Mr Bell offered to take me for a lap with him driving my car and me in the passenger seat. I've never been so scared and impressed at the same time. When the lap was over I realized all drivers are not equal. I had a fast car and I was an average driver.

chrisridebike8

It's Sunday afternoon and I'm bored so I'll bite. 12.1@111 is not faster than the fastest stock C63. There are more than a few that are well into the 11s stock down to their street tires. And I'd wager that if that slip is truly yours, most of that is due to AWD. Your trap speed is pretty low, so from a roll your advantage would be negated and you would lose.

And my work ride is faster than everyone on here...

zibby43

There are folks here that hit 12.2 regularly bone stock.

I'm pretty sure I've seen stock cars easily in the 11s as well.

I'm not too far away from Cincinnati . . .

jvanbrecht

Really.. zombie thread is zombie... and I'm too lazy to even find a funny zombie thread pic.. seriously, there was not need to raise this from the dead.

paradoxical3

Come on down, it will be fun.

My point wasn't to compare the x1 to the an amg, let's be real. Just having a bit of fun at the expense of the op, who thought he was having a bit of fun at my expense. Yes indeed, my x1 is significantly faster than m3s, including bolt on ones unless they are on drag radials. It's just icing on the cake that it's faster than many of the timeslips posted in this very forum.

CarHopper

Paradoxical3 - Don't take this as trying to butt heads, just an honest question.

I came from a 135i, jb4 g5 board, catless downpipes, and e85. So, I believe that is pretty similar to your x1 as far as mods are concerned, yes? Yet I believe the x1 weighs quite a bit more but you still think it is faster than the 135i in a straight line? I'll go with you that it could be close but I just don't see my 135i losing to an x1 especially where it was at. Not to mention I think the n54's are a little bit faster than n55's. I had an n54 for what it's worth.

paradoxical3

Mod for mod, a 135 will always be faster. Never said otherwise. The guy I was poking fun at had a stock 135.

CarHopper

Ah ok, that makes much more sense now. Then yea I can get on board with that idea because the jb4 just adds stupid amounts of power.

Nice to see an x1 enthusiast standing up for the car out there. I think it is a great platform but the rear end makes me cringe a little bit. However, that just comes down to personal taste. I'm sure it's a blast to drive!

dcho

12.1 is still impressive for any car, let alone an SAV. i think its just hard for people to welcome the idea of a suv/sav competing with a sports car without getting all defensive about it. i mean, ****. you have nissan patrols (though modified) destroying lambos, gtr's, and sand dunes in the middle east.