P31 TUNE ONLY Power.
A couple of the big boy tuners (Renntech and Kleemann) both told me not to waste my money with a tune on my 13 P31 if that was the only mod I intended to do, saying there are almost no gains to be had. Since I got headers, I obviously added the tune, but I'm sure the power gains were mostly hardware driven and not much tune related.
I think this is simply a matter of apples and oranges dynos being used to support gains that aren't really there. Like Vic said, only way to verify for sure is to take it to the track/street for a roll-on comparison with a stock P31.
I think this is simply a matter of apples and oranges dynos being used to support gains that aren't really there. Like Vic said, only way to verify for sure is to take it to the track/street for a roll-on comparison with a stock P31.
Anyone want do a roll with me with their stock P31?
Just got off the phone with the shop they will send me all the runs...so we can compare properly. Hopefully I will post everything tonite
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Rode in a 2012 P31 with a Renntech tune today.... Got to drive it later as well..
I can actually feel a difference! Felt quite a bit faster (More torque). At least that's what my *** dyno says.
If it wasn't for me being scared about warranty I'd do an EC tune.
I can actually feel a difference! Felt quite a bit faster (More torque). At least that's what my *** dyno says.
If it wasn't for me being scared about warranty I'd do an EC tune.
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
Oh Canada!
Good for you buddy!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!
Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76
Max Torque: 403.50
So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!
Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76

Max Torque: 403.50

So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!

Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!
Bring that Mandingo B$ to Shift Sector and come play! I can't wait to see it! (Congratulations BTW)
Kimmy
Would it be fair to say, that the maximum you're going to get from a tune, to a standard P31, would be around 510HP at the crank, ie, about 23HP more,..maybe there'd be a little bit more, but not much.
I say this because of course the B.S. is 510HP, & has the same engine as P31...except for ECU.....I was just thinking that as B.S. is "the ultimate", it would probably have pretty much the "maximum" for this spec engine, so an increase to around 510 at the crank, would be about "it"?
Cheers, Pickles.
I say this because of course the B.S. is 510HP, & has the same engine as P31...except for ECU.....I was just thinking that as B.S. is "the ultimate", it would probably have pretty much the "maximum" for this spec engine, so an increase to around 510 at the crank, would be about "it"?
Cheers, Pickles.
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2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
Ill ride with you so I can sip on my cold beer. (I wont spill)
Never heard of my BS being called a Mandingo-- but Ill take it
Good for you buddy!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!
Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76
Max Torque: 403.50
So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!
Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76

Max Torque: 403.50

So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!

Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!

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Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,261
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From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
Good for you buddy!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!
Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76
Max Torque: 403.50
So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!
Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!
My first question is: WTH? Lol where in Vancouver are you planning on driving it that fast? Please make sure to race Michael Buble (he has the same car as us) if he pulls up next to ya. I believe his C63 is still stock? Oh and I'm from Victoria & Vancouver... Lol
So, I jumped out of bed to write you at some ungodly hour of the morning because I too have the P31 PP on my 2012 C63. After 8 months of research and reading these forums, I finally decided to move forward with
Weistec!Ready for this boys?
Max Horse Power @ The Wheel: 454.76

Max Torque: 403.50

So If any one in a stock C63 w/P31 wants to come to shift sector next weekend, I will be there. Look for the sexy red head in the diamond white c63... Like y'all said, lets put this to the test and I'll gladly post my GoPro Camera Footage for review. I'm just there to have fun! God forbid if anyone gets beat by a girl!

Also, if their are any fellow lady drivers reading this post, shoot me a PM with any questions! Cheers!

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From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
Beer-Thirty? That good eh?
Your "Black Series" is "Blacked Out" right? I think some dudes call that "murdered?" Makes no sense to a chick... Oh so your car is big & black?! Your car has a new nickname: "Mandingo." lol. Welcome to my car world.
Hey Vic, you may as well come out to play! Jimmy is brining his Caucasian Mandingo Series! You may as well take his left overs and race the losers. That'll really **** off your BMW buddies though... No allegiance!
Out of curiosity, were you both(NESHO & LK) using 94 octane from Sunoco or Petro Canada?
BTW, nice one LK with the "Mandingo" reference
BTW, nice one LK with the "Mandingo" reference
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