MHP question...
04-12-2013, 09:56 PM
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The thread has been reopened at the request of members. Please stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks. If you have pertinent information on this subject, we welcome your comments.
04-12-2013, 09:59 PM
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04-12-2013, 11:09 PM
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I feel that my involvement in this thread has come to a point where I feel our interests are better served to walk away knowing that Google is our friend when making a high end purchase.
I really do not see how this can stay a Civil thread with the emotion and loss associated with doing business in such ways, so I will ask the mods once again to lock the thread and let it fade away, just as the monies that were wasted.
I really do not see how this can stay a Civil thread with the emotion and loss associated with doing business in such ways, so I will ask the mods once again to lock the thread and let it fade away, just as the monies that were wasted.
why go locking this thread so it sinks to the bottom of the forums. you yourself didnt know mhp's past before this thread. shows that someone like you who thinks he just got shafted still didnt research the forums. No, you should let this thread live on so more members can share their stories.
btw, Rock, thanks for listening to members here and keeping it going. Because of warning threads like this, I am lucky to have avoided MHP.
04-12-2013, 11:34 PM
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04-13-2013, 12:00 AM
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04-13-2013, 01:50 AM
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I have nothing but positive experience with Andy sorry that some of you have had problems. So did op recieve everything? And all is installed on the car for the race?
04-13-2013, 08:47 AM
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Here is something to ponder. The other night when I linked this thrad on the PL where Andy was posting he denied this customer even existed, he said it was just another one of his competitors flaming him. If Andy did not know who this customer was and this is all a lie how did Andy and Andy's attorney get a letter to the OP???
Come on Andy, how do you serve papers to a person that does not exist? Andy had a letter sent to OP in a matter of hours, he had to already know who this was. What type of vendor threatens a legit customer with legal action? Make up your mind Andy, the OP either exists or does not exist, you can't have it both ways. Just another piece in Andy's house of cards.
OP, have you recieved headers yet?
Come on Andy, how do you serve papers to a person that does not exist? Andy had a letter sent to OP in a matter of hours, he had to already know who this was. What type of vendor threatens a legit customer with legal action? Make up your mind Andy, the OP either exists or does not exist, you can't have it both ways. Just another piece in Andy's house of cards.
OP, have you recieved headers yet?
04-13-2013, 09:35 AM
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I also find it interesting that, on that thread, he confirms that the SLS GT TCU & Transmission are "exactly the same" as the standard SLS....directly in response to people questioning if he is assuming something, or actually stating a fact.
Meanwhile, in another post, he says he "thinks, correct me if I'm wrong" the GT has wider tires.
So you're telling me you have inspected every nook and cranny of 2 transmissions and 2 TCU's, yet you don't know the OEM tire size?
I have no dog in this fight. What I do know is human behavior, and as a consumer its clear you would have to be insane to run the risk of a transaction with this business. Nothing adds up. The facts are, some people have had a good experience. Many many many have not. 1 or 2 bad experiences is enough to keep me away, nevermind dozens.
Meanwhile, in another post, he says he "thinks, correct me if I'm wrong" the GT has wider tires.
So you're telling me you have inspected every nook and cranny of 2 transmissions and 2 TCU's, yet you don't know the OEM tire size?
I have no dog in this fight. What I do know is human behavior, and as a consumer its clear you would have to be insane to run the risk of a transaction with this business. Nothing adds up. The facts are, some people have had a good experience. Many many many have not. 1 or 2 bad experiences is enough to keep me away, nevermind dozens.
04-13-2013, 10:09 AM
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Let me clear up a few things I know as facts...
I created this thread because my friend who actually owns the C63 I am driving in the OLOA was having continual problems getting the parts that he paid for almost a year ago. My friend has also been the subject of many deceptions and every time... these issues were at his expense. So my initial outreach to the community was to see in fact what was behind these repeated failures to deliver on a promise.
I did request the thread to be closed initially as I have seen how threads like this can take on a life of their own. And yes, I did fail to look up and search the forums because I wanted new info so I could make a determination if there were any issues currently affecting MHP as to why the parts for our car were being held up. All of such is and was very time sensitive since we have less than three weeks to the event start and at the time had not received the Cams, Buckets and Bolts that were paid for LONG ago. It was only after this thread began, did we acquire the cams but still no buckets or torque to yield bolts.
Andy's posting in the PL stating he didn't know this customer is an outright lie, because he was sending me emails, copying his attorney and the customer. AND... I have his texts over the last few days telling his customer that he was now "On your own" or "good luck getting your car tuned" and my favorite... "David (AutoTech Racing) is simply trying to piggyback his shop off our name. Your parts are OTW. Judging by his posts he needs metal help. He's a Photographer not a Tuner. Best of Luck, I can't say I'll miss you as a customer. You have no idea what you're doing listening to this guy and I promise you the car will not run. So best of luck and don't ask me for help tuning when the smooth talker can't deliver!"
So far we have the cams and that alone. We are taking the car to a Mercedes Dealership that is sponsoring the installation of the Cams. We will then take the car to a very well known and reputable Tuner who has tuned many of these cars and other very high performance exotics without ever any issues such as these. In fact the Tuner stated while in Kuwait was fixing many of the tunes Andy had sent that were giving problems to the customers there.
I think it bears reminding that AutoTech Racing is not a shop nor do we sell any parts. We are simply a team of two guys who raced a Mustang together 20+ years ago, won a lot of events and due to life getting in the way and our race car then being stolen in 1994, quit racing together. We went our separate ways and have had no communication until two weeks ago when we decided to partner up again to compete in the One Lap event under our original team name.
So Wish Us LUCK!!
I created this thread because my friend who actually owns the C63 I am driving in the OLOA was having continual problems getting the parts that he paid for almost a year ago. My friend has also been the subject of many deceptions and every time... these issues were at his expense. So my initial outreach to the community was to see in fact what was behind these repeated failures to deliver on a promise.
I did request the thread to be closed initially as I have seen how threads like this can take on a life of their own. And yes, I did fail to look up and search the forums because I wanted new info so I could make a determination if there were any issues currently affecting MHP as to why the parts for our car were being held up. All of such is and was very time sensitive since we have less than three weeks to the event start and at the time had not received the Cams, Buckets and Bolts that were paid for LONG ago. It was only after this thread began, did we acquire the cams but still no buckets or torque to yield bolts.
Andy's posting in the PL stating he didn't know this customer is an outright lie, because he was sending me emails, copying his attorney and the customer. AND... I have his texts over the last few days telling his customer that he was now "On your own" or "good luck getting your car tuned" and my favorite... "David (AutoTech Racing) is simply trying to piggyback his shop off our name. Your parts are OTW. Judging by his posts he needs metal help. He's a Photographer not a Tuner. Best of Luck, I can't say I'll miss you as a customer. You have no idea what you're doing listening to this guy and I promise you the car will not run. So best of luck and don't ask me for help tuning when the smooth talker can't deliver!"
So far we have the cams and that alone. We are taking the car to a Mercedes Dealership that is sponsoring the installation of the Cams. We will then take the car to a very well known and reputable Tuner who has tuned many of these cars and other very high performance exotics without ever any issues such as these. In fact the Tuner stated while in Kuwait was fixing many of the tunes Andy had sent that were giving problems to the customers there.
I think it bears reminding that AutoTech Racing is not a shop nor do we sell any parts. We are simply a team of two guys who raced a Mustang together 20+ years ago, won a lot of events and due to life getting in the way and our race car then being stolen in 1994, quit racing together. We went our separate ways and have had no communication until two weeks ago when we decided to partner up again to compete in the One Lap event under our original team name.
So Wish Us LUCK!!
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04-13-2013, 10:42 AM
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Gonna be a hell of a time to tune for new cams. I bet the factory spends months tuning those.
So you waited a year for the cams? What else are you waiting for? I assume you are putting in new lifters with the new cam?
Any other mods on the car?
A bunch of guys on here had problems with MHP, but on the other hand a bunch havent had any issues... I guess its a roll of the dice. I am no fan boy, I simply state what has worked for me. Ive done business with Renntech, OE, Weistec, MHP and others on here, never any problems with any of them.
So you waited a year for the cams? What else are you waiting for? I assume you are putting in new lifters with the new cam?
Any other mods on the car?
A bunch of guys on here had problems with MHP, but on the other hand a bunch havent had any issues... I guess its a roll of the dice. I am no fan boy, I simply state what has worked for me. Ive done business with Renntech, OE, Weistec, MHP and others on here, never any problems with any of them.
04-13-2013, 11:14 AM
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Andy is saying u guys doesn't exist, but he send u text & lawyer threats? Too funny! Lol
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04-13-2013, 11:18 AM
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Gonna be a hell of a time to tune for new cams. I bet the factory spends months tuning those.
So you waited a year for the cams? What else are you waiting for? I assume you are putting in new lifters with the new cam?
Any other mods on the car?
A bunch of guys on here had problems with MHP, but on the other hand a bunch havent had any issues... I guess its a roll of the dice. I am no fan boy, I simply state what has worked for me. Ive done business with Renntech, OE, Weistec, MHP and others on here, never any problems with any of them.
So you waited a year for the cams? What else are you waiting for? I assume you are putting in new lifters with the new cam?
Any other mods on the car?
A bunch of guys on here had problems with MHP, but on the other hand a bunch havent had any issues... I guess its a roll of the dice. I am no fan boy, I simply state what has worked for me. Ive done business with Renntech, OE, Weistec, MHP and others on here, never any problems with any of them.
04-13-2013, 11:46 AM
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this is just Andy and his tricks. he hands out legal warning letters like condoms at frosh week.
if you are serious about getting justice. do what jrcart and others have said. rally the members that got shafted and make a legal case out of it. the sooner you guys step up, the sooner ppl like andy stop scamming others
btw, your thread was up a full day and mods havent closed it. this is a forum afterall... a place to share info be it good or bad
if you are serious about getting justice. do what jrcart and others have said. rally the members that got shafted and make a legal case out of it. the sooner you guys step up, the sooner ppl like andy stop scamming others
btw, your thread was up a full day and mods havent closed it. this is a forum afterall... a place to share info be it good or bad
i think i got a letter from him when i posted comments and pics of the 2 different damaged ecus that he was claiming were the same ecu... i found it hilarious that i would get a letter to remove those pics which were actually posted by someone in the same thread on a public forum...
i can't believe i nearly fell into the web of andy and mhp just to get a hold of his headers... it's a good thing for me that when i was about to hand him the money for the headers, he told me he couldn't sell it to me because he didn't trust me and my tuner... so i couldn't have them without signing an NDA... dafuq?!?... we sent emails back and forth for a couple of weeks and i finally decided to go with mhp and he waits till the last minute to tell me he would rather lose the sale than take the risk and sell to me... and i've never heard of anyone having to sign anything for a freaking car part...
i hope someone starts a new thread when they find out that his business has gone under...
04-13-2013, 12:43 PM
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Let me clear up a few things I know as facts...
I created this thread because my friend who actually owns the C63 I am driving in the OLOA was having continual problems getting the parts that he paid for almost a year ago. My friend has also been the subject of many deceptions and every time... these issues were at his expense. So my initial outreach to the community was to see in fact what was behind these repeated failures to deliver on a promise.
I did request the thread to be closed initially as I have seen how threads like this can take on a life of their own. And yes, I did fail to look up and search the forums because I wanted new info so I could make a determination if there were any issues currently affecting MHP as to why the parts for our car were being held up. All of such is and was very time sensitive since we have less than three weeks to the event start and at the time had not received the Cams, Buckets and Bolts that were paid for LONG ago. It was only after this thread began, did we acquire the cams but still no buckets or torque to yield bolts.
Andy's posting in the PL stating he didn't know this customer is an outright lie, because he was sending me emails, copying his attorney and the customer. AND... I have his texts over the last few days telling his customer that he was now "On your own" or "good luck getting your car tuned" and my favorite... "David (AutoTech Racing) is simply trying to piggyback his shop off our name. Your parts are OTW. Judging by his posts he needs metal help. He's a Photographer not a Tuner. Best of Luck, I can't say I'll miss you as a customer. You have no idea what you're doing listening to this guy and I promise you the car will not run. So best of luck and don't ask me for help tuning when the smooth talker can't deliver!"
So far we have the cams and that alone. We are taking the car to a Mercedes Dealership that is sponsoring the installation of the Cams. We will then take the car to a very well known and reputable Tuner who has tuned many of these cars and other very high performance exotics without ever any issues such as these. In fact the Tuner stated while in Kuwait was fixing many of the tunes Andy had sent that were giving problems to the customers there.
I think it bears reminding that AutoTech Racing is not a shop nor do we sell any parts. We are simply a team of two guys who raced a Mustang together 20+ years ago, won a lot of events and due to life getting in the way and our race car then being stolen in 1994, quit racing together. We went our separate ways and have had no communication until two weeks ago when we decided to partner up again to compete in the One Lap event under our original team name.
So Wish Us LUCK!!
I created this thread because my friend who actually owns the C63 I am driving in the OLOA was having continual problems getting the parts that he paid for almost a year ago. My friend has also been the subject of many deceptions and every time... these issues were at his expense. So my initial outreach to the community was to see in fact what was behind these repeated failures to deliver on a promise.
I did request the thread to be closed initially as I have seen how threads like this can take on a life of their own. And yes, I did fail to look up and search the forums because I wanted new info so I could make a determination if there were any issues currently affecting MHP as to why the parts for our car were being held up. All of such is and was very time sensitive since we have less than three weeks to the event start and at the time had not received the Cams, Buckets and Bolts that were paid for LONG ago. It was only after this thread began, did we acquire the cams but still no buckets or torque to yield bolts.
Andy's posting in the PL stating he didn't know this customer is an outright lie, because he was sending me emails, copying his attorney and the customer. AND... I have his texts over the last few days telling his customer that he was now "On your own" or "good luck getting your car tuned" and my favorite... "David (AutoTech Racing) is simply trying to piggyback his shop off our name. Your parts are OTW. Judging by his posts he needs metal help. He's a Photographer not a Tuner. Best of Luck, I can't say I'll miss you as a customer. You have no idea what you're doing listening to this guy and I promise you the car will not run. So best of luck and don't ask me for help tuning when the smooth talker can't deliver!"
So far we have the cams and that alone. We are taking the car to a Mercedes Dealership that is sponsoring the installation of the Cams. We will then take the car to a very well known and reputable Tuner who has tuned many of these cars and other very high performance exotics without ever any issues such as these. In fact the Tuner stated while in Kuwait was fixing many of the tunes Andy had sent that were giving problems to the customers there.
I think it bears reminding that AutoTech Racing is not a shop nor do we sell any parts. We are simply a team of two guys who raced a Mustang together 20+ years ago, won a lot of events and due to life getting in the way and our race car then being stolen in 1994, quit racing together. We went our separate ways and have had no communication until two weeks ago when we decided to partner up again to compete in the One Lap event under our original team name.
So Wish Us LUCK!!
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04-13-2013, 12:53 PM
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As a MHP customer and personal friend of Andy for 8 years I find this thread to be both saddening and well saddening.
My business experience stems from my own 2007 E63 tune and nitrous'd by MHP, my 2011 SLS tuned by MHP, and my 2012 E63 biturbo with tune and exhaust from MHP. All run like bats out of hell with zero issues.
On a personal level I can comment unlike most on the forum that have neither met nor even spoken with Andy that he is as stand up a guy as exists on this planet. Anytime I call or text and need something its done. No need for a followup call.
As far as some of the outlandish comments on this forum, jrcart if I may ask why havent you legally gone after Andy for whatever money you claim he owes you? The side of the story I've heard directly is quite different from the one you present. As in Brad from evosport and wayne from powerchip both admitting to Andy years after that the entire ecu copy claim was a setup planned months in advance. But of course Andy nor anyone from MHP can post here so its a free for all for you. also to address your claim about Andy not knowing who the customer was in this thread Andy reiterated to me today this am in fact that they have never done business with auto tech which auto tech seems to have agreed to. the mutual customer was realized in the private lounge thread which you either missed or didn't care to read. now the cam buckets and cam bolts are in shipment which was an oversight on the part of MHP and andy and he owned up to it.
Unlike many of you i have seen MHPs bender and it is not in 1 piece presently this has caused delays in present orders and causes them to lose funds every day it doesnt operate. this makes sense to me as I own a photographic technologies company that relies heavily on machinery, if its not working we arent making money.
Im doing my best to keep this civil but that term seems relative with all the false claims and now posting of text messages which according to my attorney which is not MHPs attorney is in fact a "violation of a reasonable expectation of privacy" to use his terms. Add to it the fact that my old username "benzp_714" is no longer valid, although when I went to try and sign up on this forum again to post my experiences it said the name was already taken. When I did post about my car and my happiness with the mods that went into it my thread was mysteriously tagged with "problem" even though I posted no such thing quite the opposite exactly. So it seems one sided bias rules and people feel they can say anything because the other side cant post on this forum. So why not take it to another forum where they can respond?
To me the reason this thread was posted is very clear especially considering the magazine article recently posted, auto tech is trying to take credit for the mods on Mark Pflaum's car which are all MHP according to the receipt/invoice I saw this am. MHP headers, mids, catback, tune and now cams.
Now before anyone goes off about being a fan boy, I will post my email shellurtultimate@yahoo.com and while I wont respond to just any flamethrower if someone like jrcart wants to call me to verify my identity I will send back an email with my cell number provided he promises to not pass it on publicly. That is how ridiculous I think this thread is and that is how good of a friend and tuner Andy is and has been to me.
My business experience stems from my own 2007 E63 tune and nitrous'd by MHP, my 2011 SLS tuned by MHP, and my 2012 E63 biturbo with tune and exhaust from MHP. All run like bats out of hell with zero issues.
On a personal level I can comment unlike most on the forum that have neither met nor even spoken with Andy that he is as stand up a guy as exists on this planet. Anytime I call or text and need something its done. No need for a followup call.
As far as some of the outlandish comments on this forum, jrcart if I may ask why havent you legally gone after Andy for whatever money you claim he owes you? The side of the story I've heard directly is quite different from the one you present. As in Brad from evosport and wayne from powerchip both admitting to Andy years after that the entire ecu copy claim was a setup planned months in advance. But of course Andy nor anyone from MHP can post here so its a free for all for you. also to address your claim about Andy not knowing who the customer was in this thread Andy reiterated to me today this am in fact that they have never done business with auto tech which auto tech seems to have agreed to. the mutual customer was realized in the private lounge thread which you either missed or didn't care to read. now the cam buckets and cam bolts are in shipment which was an oversight on the part of MHP and andy and he owned up to it.
Unlike many of you i have seen MHPs bender and it is not in 1 piece presently this has caused delays in present orders and causes them to lose funds every day it doesnt operate. this makes sense to me as I own a photographic technologies company that relies heavily on machinery, if its not working we arent making money.
Im doing my best to keep this civil but that term seems relative with all the false claims and now posting of text messages which according to my attorney which is not MHPs attorney is in fact a "violation of a reasonable expectation of privacy" to use his terms. Add to it the fact that my old username "benzp_714" is no longer valid, although when I went to try and sign up on this forum again to post my experiences it said the name was already taken. When I did post about my car and my happiness with the mods that went into it my thread was mysteriously tagged with "problem" even though I posted no such thing quite the opposite exactly. So it seems one sided bias rules and people feel they can say anything because the other side cant post on this forum. So why not take it to another forum where they can respond?
To me the reason this thread was posted is very clear especially considering the magazine article recently posted, auto tech is trying to take credit for the mods on Mark Pflaum's car which are all MHP according to the receipt/invoice I saw this am. MHP headers, mids, catback, tune and now cams.
Now before anyone goes off about being a fan boy, I will post my email shellurtultimate@yahoo.com and while I wont respond to just any flamethrower if someone like jrcart wants to call me to verify my identity I will send back an email with my cell number provided he promises to not pass it on publicly. That is how ridiculous I think this thread is and that is how good of a friend and tuner Andy is and has been to me.
I am not going to flame you, I promised I would not turn this thread into a crap fight and I am going to keep my word. You have just as much right to post your experiences with Andy/MHP as OP does to start this thread and other have to post about their negative experiences with Andy.
Mods, please keep an eye on this poster, I do not want this to get ugly so you are forced to close thread, that would play rigt into Andy's hand. Please, everyone else, keep it civil so this thread stays open....if I can keep it civil anyone can lol
04-13-2013, 12:55 PM
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I made many of the same observations in ShellURT's posts, let's just keep itncivil so thread does not get locked, you and I both know that is exactly the card Andy is attempting to play at this point.
Last edited by Rock; 04-13-2013 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Removed quote of banned member
04-13-2013, 01:01 PM
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Thanks, I have tried to keep it civil and will continue to do so, Andy is not worth getting banned over.
My prediction is this thread will stay civil until Andy opens up one of his alternative username accounts or has one of his flunkies do it for him and then all hell will break loose and civil conversation will be tossed out the window. That is one of his favorite tactics in trying to get a thread locked or deleted so mods please keep an eye open for any newbies or low post count users jumping into this thread. I have seen him do it hear and on other boards.
This is how Andy's play book reads. Andy usually firsts makes empty legal threats, throwing out words like Libel, Defemation and Slander and when that does not work because people are actually posting factual information rather than libelous information he then plays the fake username game. He creates a username with a great story, usually some customer that is 100% happy with MHP bcause MHP headers netted him the fastes, highest HP car on the planet. He then tries creating enough tension and anamosity with the fake username by lashing out at people posting in the threads and other tuners that the thread gets closed and goes away....Andy wins.
So guys, let's not get this thread locked or deleted, let's continue to keep it civil but feel free to share your experiences with Andy/MHP, good or bad let's hear what everyone has to say.
My prediction is this thread will stay civil until Andy opens up one of his alternative username accounts or has one of his flunkies do it for him and then all hell will break loose and civil conversation will be tossed out the window. That is one of his favorite tactics in trying to get a thread locked or deleted so mods please keep an eye open for any newbies or low post count users jumping into this thread. I have seen him do it hear and on other boards.
This is how Andy's play book reads. Andy usually firsts makes empty legal threats, throwing out words like Libel, Defemation and Slander and when that does not work because people are actually posting factual information rather than libelous information he then plays the fake username game. He creates a username with a great story, usually some customer that is 100% happy with MHP bcause MHP headers netted him the fastes, highest HP car on the planet. He then tries creating enough tension and anamosity with the fake username by lashing out at people posting in the threads and other tuners that the thread gets closed and goes away....Andy wins.
So guys, let's not get this thread locked or deleted, let's continue to keep it civil but feel free to share your experiences with Andy/MHP, good or bad let's hear what everyone has to say.
As a MHP customer and personal friend of Andy for 8 years I find this thread to be both saddening and well saddening.
My business experience stems from my own 2007 E63 tune and nitrous'd by MHP, my 2011 SLS tuned by MHP, and my 2012 E63 biturbo with tune and exhaust from MHP. All run like bats out of hell with zero issues.
On a personal level I can comment unlike most on the forum that have neither met nor even spoken with Andy that he is as stand up a guy as exists on this planet. Anytime I call or text and need something its done. No need for a followup call.
As far as some of the outlandish comments on this forum, jrcart if I may ask why havent you legally gone after Andy for whatever money you claim he owes you? The side of the story I've heard directly is quite different from the one you present. As in Brad from evosport and wayne from powerchip both admitting to Andy years after that the entire ecu copy claim was a setup planned months in advance. But of course Andy nor anyone from MHP can post here so its a free for all for you. also to address your claim about Andy not knowing who the customer was in this thread Andy reiterated to me today this am in fact that they have never done business with auto tech which auto tech seems to have agreed to. the mutual customer was realized in the private lounge thread which you either missed or didn't care to read. now the cam buckets and cam bolts are in shipment which was an oversight on the part of MHP and andy and he owned up to it.
Unlike many of you i have seen MHPs bender and it is not in 1 piece presently this has caused delays in present orders and causes them to lose funds every day it doesnt operate. this makes sense to me as I own a photographic technologies company that relies heavily on machinery, if its not working we arent making money.
Im doing my best to keep this civil but that term seems relative with all the false claims and now posting of text messages which according to my attorney which is not MHPs attorney is in fact a "violation of a reasonable expectation of privacy" to use his terms. Add to it the fact that my old username "benzp_714" is no longer valid, although when I went to try and sign up on this forum again to post my experiences it said the name was already taken. When I did post about my car and my happiness with the mods that went into it my thread was mysteriously tagged with "problem" even though I posted no such thing quite the opposite exactly. So it seems one sided bias rules and people feel they can say anything because the other side cant post on this forum. So why not take it to another forum where they can respond?
To me the reason this thread was posted is very clear especially considering the magazine article recently posted, auto tech is trying to take credit for the mods on Mark Pflaum's car which are all MHP according to the receipt/invoice I saw this am. MHP headers, mids, catback, tune and now cams.
Now before anyone goes off about being a fan boy, I will post my email shellurtultimate@yahoo.com and while I wont respond to just any flamethrower if someone like jrcart wants to call me to verify my identity I will send back an email with my cell number provided he promises to not pass it on publicly. That is how ridiculous I think this thread is and that is how good of a friend and tuner Andy is and has been to me.
My business experience stems from my own 2007 E63 tune and nitrous'd by MHP, my 2011 SLS tuned by MHP, and my 2012 E63 biturbo with tune and exhaust from MHP. All run like bats out of hell with zero issues.
On a personal level I can comment unlike most on the forum that have neither met nor even spoken with Andy that he is as stand up a guy as exists on this planet. Anytime I call or text and need something its done. No need for a followup call.
As far as some of the outlandish comments on this forum, jrcart if I may ask why havent you legally gone after Andy for whatever money you claim he owes you? The side of the story I've heard directly is quite different from the one you present. As in Brad from evosport and wayne from powerchip both admitting to Andy years after that the entire ecu copy claim was a setup planned months in advance. But of course Andy nor anyone from MHP can post here so its a free for all for you. also to address your claim about Andy not knowing who the customer was in this thread Andy reiterated to me today this am in fact that they have never done business with auto tech which auto tech seems to have agreed to. the mutual customer was realized in the private lounge thread which you either missed or didn't care to read. now the cam buckets and cam bolts are in shipment which was an oversight on the part of MHP and andy and he owned up to it.
Unlike many of you i have seen MHPs bender and it is not in 1 piece presently this has caused delays in present orders and causes them to lose funds every day it doesnt operate. this makes sense to me as I own a photographic technologies company that relies heavily on machinery, if its not working we arent making money.
Im doing my best to keep this civil but that term seems relative with all the false claims and now posting of text messages which according to my attorney which is not MHPs attorney is in fact a "violation of a reasonable expectation of privacy" to use his terms. Add to it the fact that my old username "benzp_714" is no longer valid, although when I went to try and sign up on this forum again to post my experiences it said the name was already taken. When I did post about my car and my happiness with the mods that went into it my thread was mysteriously tagged with "problem" even though I posted no such thing quite the opposite exactly. So it seems one sided bias rules and people feel they can say anything because the other side cant post on this forum. So why not take it to another forum where they can respond?
To me the reason this thread was posted is very clear especially considering the magazine article recently posted, auto tech is trying to take credit for the mods on Mark Pflaum's car which are all MHP according to the receipt/invoice I saw this am. MHP headers, mids, catback, tune and now cams.
Now before anyone goes off about being a fan boy, I will post my email shellurtultimate@yahoo.com and while I wont respond to just any flamethrower if someone like jrcart wants to call me to verify my identity I will send back an email with my cell number provided he promises to not pass it on publicly. That is how ridiculous I think this thread is and that is how good of a friend and tuner Andy is and has been to me.
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04-13-2013, 01:02 PM
#97
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Thanks, I have tried to keep it civil and will continue to do so, Andy is not worth getting banned over.
My prediction is this thread will stay civil until Andy opens up one of his alternative username accounts or has one of his flunkies do it for him and then all hell will break loose and civil conversation will be tossed out the window. That is one of his favorite tactics in trying to get a thread locked or deleted so mods please keep an eye open for any newbies or low post count users jumping into this thread. I have seen him do it hear and on other boards.
This is how Andy's play book reads. Andy usually firsts makes empty legal threats, throwing out words like Libel, Defemation and Slander and when that does not work because people are actually posting factual information rather than libelous information he then plays the fake username game. He creates a username with a great story, usually some customer that is 100% happy with MHP bcause MHP headers netted him the fastes, highest HP car on the planet. He then tries creating enough tension and anamosity with the fake username by lashing out at people posting in the threads and other tuners that the thread gets closed and goes away....Andy wins.
So guys, let's not get this thread locked or deleted, let's continue to keep it civil but feel free to share your experiences with Andy/MHP, good or bad let's hear what everyone has to say.
My prediction is this thread will stay civil until Andy opens up one of his alternative username accounts or has one of his flunkies do it for him and then all hell will break loose and civil conversation will be tossed out the window. That is one of his favorite tactics in trying to get a thread locked or deleted so mods please keep an eye open for any newbies or low post count users jumping into this thread. I have seen him do it hear and on other boards.
This is how Andy's play book reads. Andy usually firsts makes empty legal threats, throwing out words like Libel, Defemation and Slander and when that does not work because people are actually posting factual information rather than libelous information he then plays the fake username game. He creates a username with a great story, usually some customer that is 100% happy with MHP bcause MHP headers netted him the fastes, highest HP car on the planet. He then tries creating enough tension and anamosity with the fake username by lashing out at people posting in the threads and other tuners that the thread gets closed and goes away....Andy wins.
So guys, let's not get this thread locked or deleted, let's continue to keep it civil but feel free to share your experiences with Andy/MHP, good or bad let's hear what everyone has to say.
04-13-2013, 01:04 PM
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Shell... If you want to call me, I will be more than happy to share my number as well.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
04-13-2013, 01:11 PM
#99
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Shell... If you want to call me, I will be more than happy to share my number as well.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
04-13-2013, 02:14 PM
#100
MBWorld Fanatic!
Shell... If you want to call me, I will be more than happy to share my number as well.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
I will accuse you of being his posterboy or fan. This thread is not about whether or not his products perform well. The headers for what they cost should have been ceramic coated was my statement and one which is valid.
This entire focus of mine is to get to the chase of why has it taken a year to get a product to a client that has supported Andy & MHP, time & time again. As our deadlines have truly come to a near closing to get this work done... we are running out of time to listen to more excuses. This is not bashing... this is an expectation of customer service when spending the kind of money that was given to Andy for a product he does not make in-house. It deserves a response like, "let me stop the World for you and get you what you need... Sorry for the inconvenience."
I find it truly remarkable that you posted almost verbatim the texts Andy sent to Mark stating that AutoTech is trying to take credit for his work. Mark installed his exhaust system he purchased from MHP... and saying we would take credit for that is almost as absurd as taking credit for building a car just because I put the gas in it. Andy sent a text to Mark, upset that he was not informed that we were running OLOA. As if he was going miss any marketing opportunity. Maybe you did not understand that the OWNER, Purchaser and Co-Driver of the car IS "AutoTech Racing"... just like every track day guy takes his car to a driving event and has a name for his team of friends that helps out.
I am very happy for you to have a positive experience. Maybe your expectations are different and your time-tables are being met satisfactorily. I applaud such and hope it continues. Many across many other areas have quite the opposite.
I hope this helps clear up any issues thinking we would even want association or credit to anything MHP has provided, complete or not.
Also, it's very, very, very apparent that you are not trying to take "credit" for anything by posting that article (how absurd, credit for what?), and the only reason someone would even propose something so ludicrous is to divert the audiences attention away from the topic at hand.
ShellURT, lets see you connect with the folks here, follow through on your offer. Jrcart and autotech I'm sure would be happy to discuss, but I won't put words in their mouths.
